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We've been a bit quiet here for a while so I'd thought I'd ask a general question.

Anarchist revolutionary organisation. How best to go about it and how to identify flaws in current methods? Platforming, as strong as they say? Insurrectionism, is it a haven for lifestylists and hippys? Can trade unions really help in the modern situation? What are your thoughts?

Maupof wrote:We've been a bit quiet here for a while so I'd thought I'd ask a general question.

Anarchist revolutionary organisation. How best to go about it and how to identify flaws in current methods? Platforming, as strong as they say? Insurrectionism, is it a haven for lifestylists and hippys? Can trade unions really help in the modern situation? What are your thoughts?

I prefer Especifismo, which is mostly the same as platformism. I don't find insurrectionary positions specially useful and I think trade unions can be used, but carefully.
I would say more, but I'm not used to writing very long posts (I don't normally post)

Libertarian Australia wrote:

I would say more, but I'm not used to writing very long posts (I don't normally post)

why not say more? post as long or short as you like. I don't think anyone here is against reading a wall of text.
why do you find insurrectionism unhelpful?
personally I think that especifismo etc all have their place. I also like the maoist mass line idea. It depends on the situation in hand for which tactic would be best suited, there might even be a situation where vanguardism might be useful, maybe....I don't really think it's about which is better, just which works better when.

on an unrelated topic, did anyone here of the university fire in Bristol UK? In the bio-chem departments.
arson or accident?

Maupof wrote:why not say more? post as long or short as you like. I don't think anyone here is against reading a wall of text.
why do you find insurrectionism unhelpful?
personally I think that especifismo etc all have their place. I also like the maoist mass line idea. It depends on the situation in hand for which tactic would be best suited, there might even be a situation where vanguardism might be useful, maybe....I don't really think it's about which is better, just which works better when.

I was just giving an explanation on why I didn't expand the opinion

My sincere congratulations to The MT Army for their WA Security Council Commendation!

I admire the commitment and integrity of their squad, and the little interaction I have had with players such as Vippertooth33 has been nothing but positive.

I have to say that I am surprised that this resolution passed despite the predictable backlash. Credit is due to Caelapes for their authorship.

Seeing Antifa members go from strength to strength at the moment only makes me wish I had more time for NationStates!

Maupof wrote:We've been a bit quiet here for a while so I'd thought I'd ask a general question.

Anarchist revolutionary organisation. How best to go about it and how to identify flaws in current methods? Platforming, as strong as they say? Insurrectionism, is it a haven for lifestylists and hippys? Can trade unions really help in the modern situation? What are your thoughts?

One thing I will comment is that debate on the issue of organisation/method is often unproductive because the purpose/role of organisation in different viewpoints is not made clear (in fact, in many polemics I read, the writers seem unaware that there is any differentiation on this matter at all). A classic example of this would be when those inclined to formal organisation criticise the method of informal organisation for failing to create mass-movements or failing to gain the support of the public. Also it is quite common for people to argue for or against a method of organisation as if it is an ideological commitment that one must apply in all circumstances, seemingly unable to process the idea that specific methods may be useful in one context but not another.

Maupof

Libertarian socialist subtropics

Sooo.... I have two nation-states, one utopian, one dystopian. I was on the page of the dystopian one and thought the policies were for that one but I was actually signed into this one. So yeah the public floggings are not me making a full u turn on my country, xD.

Kassimo

Cynthia mckinney

Hello, I'm the founder of the Democratic Socialist Alliance. We're a democratic left wing region. We are seeking embassies with other democratic left wing regions that share our values. We would like an embassy with your region to establish closer relations between our regions.

Stroznia, Kassimo, and Maupof

Fac founder account

In an effort to streamline things a little, I have re-organised our regional dispatches. The old "Federal Agreements" and "Voting Procedure" dispatches have been combined into the new "Administration" dispatch. Added to the Admin dispatch is a note of our anti-fascist and anti-oppressive zero-tolerance policy, and a record of our alliances as a Federation. The "Region Handbook" dispatch has been abridged accordingly. These are always open to editing if there are any suggestions.

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REGION HANDBOOK

by Fac founder account

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FEDERATION OF ANARCHIST COMMUNES


The Federation of Anarchist Communes is a stateless region, home to a passionate community of anti-authoritarian revolutionaries.

Our region is self-organised, in accordance with anarchist principle, as a federation of freely associating equals. In the absence of any constituted government, agreements are forged between everyone who chooses to participate, through consensus-building discussion, upon a foundation of individual autonomy and collective equality. This process of voluntary agreement is facilitated by the Enactor, a role open to anyone who volunteers.

"From the free participation of all, by means of the spontaneous grouping of men according to their requirements and their sympathies, from the bottom to the top, from the simple to the complex, starting with the most urgent interests and arriving in the end at the most remote and most general, a social organisation would emerge the function of which would be the greatest well-being and the greatest freedom for everybody, and would draw together the whole of mankind into a community of comradeship, and would be modified and improved according to changing circumstances and the lessons learned from experience. This society of free people, this society of friends is anarchy." [Errico Malatesta]

Our region has seen growth and loss, turbulence and tranquility, mergers and migration; from here we will continue to evolve in the direction freely chosen by each and all.

What is Anarchism?

"Anarchism is a doctrine that aims at the liberation of peoples from political domination and economic exploitation by the encouragement of direct or non-governmental action. [...] Anarchy is the goal of anarchists: the society variously described to be without government or without authority; a condition of statelessness, of free federation, of ‘complete’ freedom and equality based either on rational self-interest, co-operation or reciprocity. [...] Anarchists reject the state because they believe it to be iniquitous and unnecessary; because it inhibits the expression of freedom, most importantly, through exploitation and alienation. Anarchists typically reject all forms of government, authority and power but accept the possibility of self-government, acknowledge the role of natural authority and rely on notions of collective or individual power to accomplish the state’s abolition. Anarchists typically identify anarchism with liberty, but have different ideas about what it means to be free and are divided about whether communitarianism or libertarianism offers the best conditions for the realization of liberty." [Ruth Kinna]

Introductory works on anarchism:

Anarchist Communism

LinkAnarchy, by Errico Malatesta
LinkThe Conquest of Bread, by Peter Kropotkin
LinkWhat is Anarchism?, by Alexander Berkman

Anarcho-Syndicalism

LinkA Very Short Introduction to Anarcho-Syndicalism, by Libcom
LinkAnarchism and Anarcho-Syndicalism, by Rudolf Rocker
LinkFighting for ourselves: Anarcho-syndicalism and the class struggle, by Solidarity Federation

Anarcha-Feminism

LinkAnarchism: The Feminist Connection, by Peggy Kornegger
LinkAnarcha-feminism and the Newer “Woman Question”, by Sallydarity
LinkSocialism, Anarchism And Feminism, by Carol Ehrlich

Insurrectionist Anarchism

LinkSome notes on Insurrectionary Anarchism, by sasha k
LinkAt Daggers Drawn with the Existent, its Defenders and its False Critics, by [anonymous]
LinkThe Anarchist Ethic in the Age of the Anti-Globalization Movement, by the "Killing King Abacus" Editors

Market Anarchism

LinkFree Market Socialism: An Introduction, by Nathan Goodman
LinkMarkets Not Capitalism [Audiobook], Edited by Gary Chartier and Charles W. Johnson
LinkMarket Anarchism FAQ, by C4SS

Egoism

LinkThe Ego and His Own, by Max Stirner
LinkThe Right To Be Greedy: Theses On The Practical Necessity Of Demanding Everything, by the "For Ourselves" Collective
LinkAgainst the Logic of Submission, by Wolfi Landstreicher

Other useful links:

Activity

  • Activity in the FAC mostly revolves around discussion and debate on the Regional Message Board.

  • Everyone is encouraged to participate in the decision making process. Anyone can put forward a Proposal for the region to consider, and we encourage everyone to make their voice heard in debating and voting throughout the process of free agreement.

  • Contribute to the next issue of our anarchist publication, "Cry of Rebellion".

  • Volunteer for The Red Fleet to join the struggle against fascism in addition to defending our allies.

  • The World Assembly is a matter for individual nations to treat as they wish: all nations, including the Delegate, vote in the World Assembly however they desire; all nations endorse each other as they so choose; anyone can hold the WA Delegacy.

  • Feel free to bring up any ideas to change the region, so that we may continue to grow and adapt, reflecting the changing ideas of a community of equals.

The Decision Making Process

Most regions will have some form of Government in place: an elite who legislate decisions on internal affairs and represent the region externally, which brings about the struggle for power through hollow electoralism or contemptible despotism. Ours is an anarchist region and so we aim to eliminate all forms of hierarchy and transcend pernicious power struggles. Therefore we have no Government, no constitution or laws, instead we freely agree on issues as they become relevant. Where structures need to be established, rules set, or decisions made, the membership of the F.A.C. reach a consensus agreement between one another on an egalitarian basis. We have a separate, majoritarian process for deciding on embassy construction and withdrawal.

Where necessary, Federal Agreements will be put into effect by an Enactor or Founder. The Enactors and the Founder have no privileges and hold no more power than any other member of the Federation in reaching agreements; these roles are limited to the specified administrative function. Any member of the Federation may volunteer as an Enactor, but may be recalled and replaced as agreed by the Federation.

Federal Agreement Voting Process

  1. All ideas and issues concerning the F.A.C. begin as the subject of free discussion, initiated by anyone, on the Regional Message Board. It is encouraged at this stage that any differences in views are made clear and that the subject of discussion is fully explored.

  2. PROPOSAL

    1. Any member of the F.A.C. may follow up on ideas expressed in open discussion by putting forward a Proposal, which must be formally announced on the Regional Message Board.;

  3. DEBATE

    1. The Proposal must be put under the collective scrutiny of the F.A.C. The full consequences of the Proposal should be considered, including whether it reflects our anarchist principles and whether it meets the desires and requirements of the members of the F.A.C. without quelling the autonomy or dissent of any member.

  4. VOTING is initiated once the debate reaches its conclusion, as determined by the Enactor.

    1. The vote remains open for 4 days;

    2. All members of the F.A.C. may vote once and may vote either FOR, ABSTAIN, or VETO;

    3. The Proposal is accepted and becomes a Federal Agreement if it has at least one vote FOR and no VETOs.

  5. EXCEPTIONS

    1. A seperate process of free agreement has been established to determine the opening and closing of embassies.

    2. If any member of the F.A.C. suspects that this process of free agreement is being abused they may propose that the accused party be disenfranchised.

      1. The disenfranchisement of a member of the F.A.C. is agreed upon by the process set out in this document, and may be revoked by the same process.

      2. A disenfranchised member may not put forward Proposals and may not vote, but may take part in discussion and debate.

      3. A disenfranchisement does not change the result of any vote before the disenfranchisement was agreed upon.

Embassy Voting Process

  1. Any member of the F.A.C. may propose that an embassy be opened with another region, or that an existing embassy be withdrawn, by stating any such proposal on the Regional Message Board. All embassy requests from other regions will be considered unless otherwise agreed.

  2. The Enactor will directly initiate a vote on any internal embassy proposal or external embassy request;

  3. The vote remains open for 4 days;

  4. All members of the F.A.C. may vote once and may vote either FOR, ABSTAIN, or AGAINST;

  5. The embassy proposal passes on condition that:

    1. At least three-quarters of votes are cast FOR, excluding abstentions; and

    2. More votes are cast FOR than ABSTAIN.

Anti-Oppressive Agreement

  1. The Federation of Anarchist Communes affirms a zero tolerance anti-fascist stance. As such, both the Enactor and Founder may (1) Eject and ban fascist nations, (2) Reject embassy requests from fascist or fascist-associated regions, without prior agreement by the Federation. If a nation or region has been incorrectly/unjustly identified as fascist, any member of the Federation may challenge the decision and propose that it be reversed.

  2. The Federation of Anarchist Communes affirms an anti-racist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, anti-sexist, and anti-capitalist stance. As such, both the Enactor and Founder may at their discretion: (1) Eject and ban nations which propogate positions of bigotry in violation of these stances, (2) Eject and/or Ban nations banned from other regions for propogating similar bigotry if they move to the FAC, (3) Supress posts made by such nations, and finally (4) Eject and Ban any nation who spams/trolls/or harasses members of the FAC; without prior agreement by the Federation. If a nation or region has been incorrectly/unjustly ejected, banned, or disenfranchised, any member of the Federation may challenge the decision and propose that it be reversed as per the federally agreed Voting Procedure.

Affiliations

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The Federation of Anarchist Communes is a member of the Solidarity Pact of the NSLeft; committed to resolving conflict through dialogue, actively defending one another when threatened or invaded, and promoting interregional activity.

LINKS: Member Regions | LinkNSLeft Forum | LinkNSLeft Discord Server | LinkRed+Black News Service

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The Federation of Anarchist Communes is a Voluntary Member of Antifa; we encourage willing militants to join The Red Fleet to coordinate our antifascist resistance.

LINKS: Member Regions | Antifa Page

NationStates Reference

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-Kassimo

Libertarian Australia, Maupof, and Freien ii

Kassimo wrote:One thing I will comment is that debate on the issue of organisation/method is often unproductive because the purpose/role of organisation in different viewpoints is not made clear (in fact, in many polemics I read, the writers seem unaware that there is any differentiation on this matter at all). A classic example of this would be when those inclined to formal organisation criticise the method of informal organisation for failing to create mass-movements or failing to gain the support of the public. Also it is quite common for people to argue for or against a method of organisation as if it is an ideological commitment that one must apply in all circumstances, seemingly unable to process the idea that specific methods may be useful in one context but not another.

I agree with most of what you write here, especially about the seeds of sectarianism which can be planted by those who see an organisational form as a economic or social platform in itself.
I believe almost any form of organisation has it's uses depending on the situation, and personally support many different types. My main aim with the original post is to look closely and criticise these ideas to find ways we can make them and use them more effectively.

Cynthia mckinney wrote:Hello, I'm the founder of the Democratic Socialist Alliance. We're a democratic left wing region. We are seeking embassies with other democratic left wing regions that share our values. We would like an embassy with your region to establish closer relations between our regions.

how come your region isn't tagged communist?
I'm not too impressed with democratic socialism, i see it as giving bourgeois concessions in order to mollify the mob, can you explain why I'm wrong?

Ivory rhodesian peoples

Cynthia mckinney wrote:Hello, I'm the founder of the Democratic Socialist Alliance. We're a democratic left wing region. We are seeking embassies with other democratic left wing regions that share our values. We would like an embassy with your region to establish closer relations between our regions.

I try not to involve myself with regions we don't hold embassies with, however as members of NSLeft I feel it is important to to make aware what the Democratic Socialist Alliance is. Over 6 years ago, the founder of this region abused their powers, triggering a mass exodus into what is now the Democratic Socialist Assembly. As fellow members of NSLeft, we ask the members of FAC to consider this in their vote.

Well, beggars can't be choosers! Our puny region of well under 100 nations, trundling along with only occasional activity, never refusing entry on the basis of statistics or WA classification, never having elected a government, unfortunately doesn't meet our allies humble standards. ;) But we thank you for deigning to visit our anarchic dustcupboard. :P

Ivory rhodesian peoples wrote:I try not to involve myself with regions we don't hold embassies with, however as members of NSLeft I feel it is important to to make aware what the Democratic Socialist Alliance is. Over 6 years ago, the founder of this region abused their powers, triggering a mass exodus into what is now the Democratic Socialist Assembly. As fellow members of NSLeft, we ask the members of FAC to consider this in their vote.

not too sure how a spat between demsocs effects us. Both sides are equally counter-revolutionary from my perspective.
did you really believe that the powers of hierarchy and authority wouldn't be abused if allowed to exist? silly demsocs.

so we've voted for the embassy with dsa and we've had another embassy request. from The Fist of the Working Class this time.

Che the leader, care to send an emissary to explain your reasons?

Maupof wrote:not too sure how a spat between demsocs effects us. Both sides are equally counter-revolutionary from my perspective.
did you really believe that the powers of hierarchy and authority wouldn't be abused if allowed to exist? silly demsocs.

I understand what you mean talking about demsocs, and I agree when you say that their spats should not affect us. But, I would like to ask you, what do you prefer? An embassy with a region founded by someone who abused their powers or a region with people who haven't still abused them? I still think that having embassies with both is not incompatible, but I wouldn't dare to put them at the same level.

Libertarian Australia wrote:I understand what you mean talking about demsocs, and I agree when you say that their spats should not affect us. But, I would like to ask you, what do you prefer? An embassy with a region founded by someone who abused their powers or a region with people who haven't still abused them? I still think that having embassies with both is not incompatible, but I wouldn't dare to put them at the same level.

of course, we should take each case on it's own merits. And in this case the only knowledge of these abuses are the words of an admitted rival community of demsocs. I appreciate them letting us know, but we don't even know what happened. I'm not sure how much I can judge one side against the other without more knowledge of the situation. So i have to fall back on the knowledge I do have, that they are both demsocs.

That being said why don't we have an embassy with both? We should have embassies with all the NSLeft members shouldn't we?

Just to clarify: DSAssembly is an NSLeft member region; DSAlliance is not.

Caelapes wrote:Just to clarify: DSAssembly is an NSLeft member region; DSAlliance is not.

I know, we've just opened embassies in Alliance, but not in Assembly. It was more of a question towards other FAC members about whether being in NSLeft together is a good enough reason to open an embassy with Assembly, even though we don't fit their criteria.

what's this? Turkey invading rojava? quelle surprise

Libertarian Australia and Freien ii

Maupof wrote:what's this? Turkey invading rojava? quelle surprise

All of us knew Turkey would do it right after the defeat of ISIS

Maupof

I think the increasingly ardent nationalist rhetoric coming out of the turkish government is getting more and more dangerous. They sound more like old guard fascists every day.

Freien ii

Maupof wrote:I think the increasingly ardent nationalist rhetoric coming out of the turkish government is getting more and more dangerous. They sound more like old guard fascists every day.

The nationalist rhetoric is something that is growing in many countries, also, the history of modern turkish politics is mostly based on it, from the Young Turks to Erdogan, passing through Atatürk and all the coups in the 20th century.

Maupof

Libertarian Australia wrote:The nationalist rhetoric is something that is growing in many countries, also, the history of modern turkish politics is mostly based on it, from the Young Turks to Erdogan, passing through Atatürk and all the coups in the 20th century.

I was hoping turkish culture would focus on the "secularist" side of nationalism rather than the flags aspect. But it seems religion is seeing a resurgence there too.

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