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The Internationale RMB

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Most Nations: 20th Most World Assembly Endorsements: 190th Most Compassionate Citizens: 880th+16
Nicest Citizens: 912th Largest Welfare Programs: 1,006th Most Inclusive: 1,199th Most Cheerful Citizens: 1,250th Highest Foreign Aid Spending: 1,285th Best Weather: 1,563rd Most Rebellious Youth: 1,640th Most Eco-Friendly Governments: 1,724th Most Beautiful Environments: 1,788th Most Extensive Public Healthcare: 1,898th Most Cultured: 1,901st Most Secular: 1,914th Most Advanced Public Education: 1,951st Most Advanced Public Transport: 2,057th Smartest Citizens: 2,066th Most Pacifist: 2,087th
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The Internationale is a broad alliance of anarchists, socialists, communists, and other left-wing players.

The Internationale opposes the exploitation and oppression of the people by the forces of capitalism, imperialism and fascism.


"The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workers of the world, unite!"

"No real social change has ever come about without a revolution. Revolution is but thought carried into action."

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    Anti-Fascism, or, Why We Fight

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    Solidarity Pact of the NSLeft

    MetaReference by Inter-regional Communication . 1,018 reads.

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    Charter and Code of Conduct of The Internationale

    BulletinPolicy by Proletaire . 304 reads.

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    Map of the Internationale

    BulletinNews by World Anarchic Union . 33 reads.

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    Posting on the Regional Message Board

    BulletinPolicy by Autonomous Masses . 94 reads.

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    Translations of comrade

    MetaReference by Freien . 151 reads.

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    Left list

    FactbookMiscellaneous by Askietic . 276 reads.

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    Presentation of the Hero of The Internationale [March 20, 2016]

    BulletinNews by The Black and Red . 468 reads.

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    Presentation of the Hero of The Internationale

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Regional Power: High

The Internationale contains 607 nations, the 20th most in the world.

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The Largest Mining Sector in The Internationale

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As a region, The Internationale is ranked 13,402nd in the world for Largest Mining Sector.

NationWA CategoryMotto
1.The Communities and Individuals of KronstadtiaCivil Rights Lovefest“Strong alone, together unstoppable!”
2.The Socialist Peoples Republic of KernanFather Knows Best State“To do what is right, is not always right”
3.The Republic of The African American Separatist FrontLeft-Leaning College State“All Power to the People”
4.The Community of SovberskiaInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Independence, Sovereignty, Freedom”
5.The People's Republic of Socialist stadiMoralistic Democracy“New empire”
6.The Democratic States of RickyLandAnarchy“Bright and Sparkling Sun”
7.The Rogue Nation of TechnolagiCorporate Bordello“To A Bright Future For Humanity”
8.The Empire of Pakistan occupied-IndiaMoralistic Democracy“Pakistan Zindabad”
9.The Republic of RavoiaNew York Times Democracy“Strength Through Freedom”
10.The Matriarchy of DauniaMother Knows Best State“Run away from Foggia!”
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The Internationale Regional Message Board

Update on activities ongoing in the region:

1) The RP Lam Lause has opened:
https://theredand.black/forums/topic/730-kardaschev-the-lonely-oddessy/

2) The School of the Left project started by Freien:
https://theredand.black/forums/topic/731-school-of-the-left/

3) Radio events on thursdays on our discord server, in which everybody is encouraged to play their songs

4) The RL global regional census. Telegram me if you want to be added or want to know more about it

Of these activities, the one I care the most about is the RP thread. We have a good number of roleplayers who often ask for RP threads. Well, here is one. And it's pretty good imo. Please join it, if you are interested

Comradeland, Freien, and Cartanacia

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE wrote:A two state solution legitimizes Israeli occupation, however the only 'real' solution is Palestinian national sovereignty and self determination. Nothing less than a return to the 1967 borders and release of the Golan Heights to Syria should be demanded. A reverse of the Balfour declaration and return to 1916 borders preferred of course but I suppose the Jewish people have to go somewhere.

I prefer the one-state solution, a mixed state for palestinians and israelis. Maybe that's the only way of not legitimazing the invasion while at the same time letting them stay. I don't know

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE, World Anarchic Union, North American Socialists, and Yaroi

Cartanacia wrote:Speaking of this, what does everyone think would be the ideal solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?


The ideal solution would be a one state secular solution that combines both Israel and Palestine, aka "Palesrael". However, sadly that isn't going to happen and the current preferred two state solution is in real danger if Israel is allowed to carry on its brutal military occupation.

The occupation is illegal under international law, as with the settlements. In fact, Israel has broken over 60 UN resolutions with no penalty. To put that in context, Iraq broke two and got invaded.

If we're being serious here, the only real way to put the two state solution back into place would be military intervention on behalf of Palestine, and push Israel back to its 1967 borders. However this would realistically be incredibly hard as Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world and the backing of most of the West. Not to mention the problems that would come about from an intervention, however I feel that Israel has pushed things way too far with no reprecussions.

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE, Kwa-Zululand, Asturies-Llion, and Chelovechestvo

Caelapes wrote:"Make Israel Palestine Again"


That's actually my username on a game lol

The Sri Lankan Communes wrote:The ideal solution would be a one state secular solution that combines both Israel and Palestine, aka "Palesrael". However, sadly that isn't going to happen and the current preferred two state solution is in real danger if Israel is allowed to carry on its brutal military occupation.

The occupation is illegal under international law, as with the settlements. In fact, Israel has broken over 60 UN resolutions with no penalty. To put that in context, Iraq broke two and got invaded.

If we're being serious here, the only real way to put the two state solution back into place would be military intervention on behalf of Palestine, and push Israel back to its 1967 borders. However this would realistically be incredibly hard as Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world and the backing of most of the West. Not to mention the problems that would come about from an intervention, however I feel that Israel has pushed things way too far with no reprecussions.

I would use a more neutral name for the country, maybe Levant. In such situations it is better.

The Sri Lankan Communes wrote:The ideal solution would be a one state secular solution that combines both Israel and Palestine, aka "Palesrael". However, sadly that isn't going to happen and the current preferred two state solution is in real danger if Israel is allowed to carry on its brutal military occupation.

The occupation is illegal under international law, as with the settlements. In fact, Israel has broken over 60 UN resolutions with no penalty. To put that in context, Iraq broke two and got invaded.

If we're being serious here, the only real way to put the two state solution back into place would be military intervention on behalf of Palestine, and push Israel back to its 1967 borders. However this would realistically be incredibly hard as Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world and the backing of most of the West. Not to mention the problems that would come about from an intervention, however I feel that Israel has pushed things way too far with no reprecussions.


I generally agree that a multinational one-state solution would be in the long run the ideal solution. However this obviously cannot be achieved by either Israel simply subsuming all of Palestine and declaring all Palestinians citizens nor simply negotiating from the current conditions to try and forge such a unity by fiat. Both would not only be pipedreams but also would not structurally dismantle the dominance of the Israeli nation.

Both nations would have to join together out of a position of equality and for that I think two main factors would have to be dealt with, both which would likely necessitate a two-state solution for some important period of time.

One, the Palestinians need to achieve self-determiniation and independance from the Israeli nation which would require a return of much land and resources as well as reparations. I don't know all the more specific details about the borders but I'd probably agree with Ming's assessment of the 1967 borders and return of Golan heights etc.

In order for this to happen the Israeli state would need to be separated somehow from the backing and support of the imperialist US state which creates the conditions for and allows Israel to continue with the occupations and push further and further right, and which frustrates the ability for real cooperation and peace. Similar to how the USA scuttles and undercuts the ability for the ROK to attempt even the most long-term gradual cooling of tensions and increasing of cooperation towards eventual peace and reunification with the DPRK through policies like the "sunshine policy".

Supposing these conditions were achieved, that is pushing out or at least reducing the imperialists' hold on the region and country in question and achieving some kind of two state solution which restores, at least to a great degree, the sovereignty of the Palestinian nation, then I think we could talk of moving towards a more long-term peaceful coexistence of the two nations in one state.

Many Jews (not all by any means), led by the form of Jewish nationalism and increasingly racial view of the Jews as a people promoted by the Israeli state, equate the right of Israel to exist as it does with the right of the Jewish people to exist as a nation. But there are others, who I agree with in many respects, who see the formation of a settler-colonial state in alliance with the imperial powers and the ideologies of zionism and Jewish identity more generally being equated with Israel as being a danger to the existence and safety of Jewish people in the long-run. The long sought after goal of national liberation of the Jewish people, particularly in Europe and Russia has been transformed into a dangerous colonial project that pits the Jewish people against the Islamic and colonized world while placing them in a dependent position in relation to the imperialists. Jewish people and their friends who understand this recognize and push for the end of the occupations, the liberation and self-determination of the Palestinian nation, and for the USA and other imperialist powers to stop supporting the colonial Israeli state. For the peace and freedom of the Palestinian people as well as the Jewish people.

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE

Asturies-Llion wrote:I would use a more neutral name for the country, maybe Levant. In such situations it is better.


I used the term "Palesrael" simply because that is what most people where I live refer to that solution as, but yeah I agree.

North American Socialists wrote:I generally agree that a multinational one-state solution would be in the long run the ideal solution. However this obviously cannot be achieved by either Israel simply subsuming all of Palestine and declaring all Palestinians citizens nor simply negotiating from the current conditions to try and forge such a unity by fiat. Both would not only be pipedreams but also would not structurally dismantle the dominance of the Israeli nation.

Both nations would have to join together out of a position of equality and for that I think two main factors would have to be dealt with, both which would likely necessitate a two-state solution for some important period of time.

One, the Palestinians need to achieve self-determiniation and independance from the Israeli nation which would require a return of much land and resources as well as reparations. I don't know all the more specific details about the borders but I'd probably agree with Ming's assessment of the 1967 borders and return of Golan heights etc.

In order for this to happen the Israeli state would need to be separated somehow from the backing and support of the imperialist US state which creates the conditions for and allows Israel to continue with the occupations and push further and further right, and which frustrates the ability for real cooperation and peace. Similar to how the USA scuttles and undercuts the ability for the ROK to attempt even the most long-term gradual cooling of tensions and increasing of cooperation towards eventual peace and reunification with the DPRK through policies like the "sunshine policy".

Supposing these conditions were achieved, that is pushing out or at least reducing the imperialists' hold on the region and country in question and achieving some kind of two state solution which restores, at least to a great degree, the sovereignty of the Palestinian nation, then I think we could talk of moving towards a more long-term peaceful coexistence of the two nations in one state.

Many Jews (not all by any means), led by the form of Jewish nationalism and increasingly racial view of the Jews as a people promoted by the Israeli state, equate the right of Israel to exist as it does with the right of the Jewish people to exist as a nation. But there are others, who I agree with in many respects, who see the formation of a settler-colonial state in alliance with the imperial powers and the ideologies of zionism and Jewish identity more generally being equated with Israel as being a danger to the existence and safety of Jewish people in the long-run. The long sought after goal of national liberation of the Jewish people, particularly in Europe and Russia has been transformed into a dangerous colonial project that pits the Jewish people against the Islamic and colonized world while placing them in a dependent position in relation to the imperialists. Jewish people and their friends who understand this recognize and push for the end of the occupations, the liberation and self-determination of the Palestinian nation, and for the USA and other imperialist powers to stop supporting the colonial Israeli state. For the peace and freedom of the Palestinian people as well as the Jewish people.


I totally agree, however I think we have progressed too far down the line, albeit the wrong line, for Zionism to be put down peacefully and easily. The zionists have major support both in the US government and of course in Israel itself. Sadly, left wing Israelis are the minority, by a long way as well, and racism has been so entrenched in Israeli society that we would have to use force to get rid of it. Realistically it would be much easier to impose a two state solution and restore the borders to their 1967 state, however that would still be a huge challenge provided that most superpowers are sadly unwilling to back Palestine.

Such a fantastic discussion here comrades, The Internationale sets the example of the NSLeft and they set the bar high!

Chelovechestvo and The Sri Lankan Communes

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE wrote:Such a fantastic discussion here comrades, The Internationale sets the example of the NSLeft and they set the bar high!

Anyone that likes this should check out the region Discord server! Even more discussion there!

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