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Most World Assembly Endorsements: 172nd Most Nations: 467th Largest Black Market: 544th+24
Most Corrupt Governments: 1,046th Largest Arms Manufacturing Sector: 1,186th Lowest Crime Rates: 1,197th Most Advanced Defense Forces: 1,209th Largest Manufacturing Sector: 1,227th Most Advanced Law Enforcement: 1,276th Most Cultured: 1,378th Healthiest Citizens: 1,692nd Most Subsidized Industry: 1,728th Most Extensive Public Healthcare: 1,732nd Most Devout: 1,745th Largest Governments: 1,801st Most Authoritarian: 1,819th Most Beautiful Environments: 1,937th Most Eco-Friendly Governments: 1,994th Most Advanced Public Education: 2,028th Highest Poor Incomes: 2,032nd Largest Information Technology Sector: 2,038th Most Advanced Public Transport: 2,094th Highest Economic Output: 2,158th Highest Average Incomes: 2,178th Most Influential: 2,187th Most Scientifically Advanced: 2,223rd Most Valuable International Artwork: 2,317th
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We are a serious and a proud Fascist region comprising of the awakened and aware men and women of the Earth who all share with them in their hearts and minds a bright unified vision of a moral New Order destined to replace the sociopolitical decadence and decay of the 21st century and to burn away the consumerist-globalist darkness enveloping the world around us.

Politically we are above and beyond the political spectrum, as we wish to unify the sociopolitical bodies of the nation under the care and guidance of the Fascist Corporate-Ethical State


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Fifth Empire contains 36 nations, the 467th most in the world.

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1.The Imperium of The Vekta-Helghast EmpireCorporate Police State“Duty, Loyalty, Honour.”
2.The New Order of FascisticaIron Fist Consumerists“Fascistica (check out the other -ica nations too)”
3.The Colony of Imperial KratosCorporate Police State“Blood and War”
4.The Deadlands of MertherIron Fist Consumerists“-”
5.The Holy Empire of Yisrael and YaudaCorporate Police State“From Dan to Beersheba, the Jewish State shall prosper!”
6.The Kingdom of Asturias cristianosInoffensive Centrist Democracy“He aquí todas son hechas nuevas.”
7.The Rogue Nation of Frontier OmegaIron Fist Consumerists“For the Future”
8.The Fascist-Welfare State of The Cumbrian StateFather Knows Best State“The Imperium spans a thousand thousand worlds”
9.The Empire of New Empire of HispanyoIron Fist Consumerists“Borenzoistas por Siempre”
10.The Matriarchy of Fascist FrisiaMother Knows Best State“Eala Frya Fresena!”
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Merther wrote:You are not to decide who is misguided here, especially coming from your unorthodox views. You may disagree with me, but do not question my beliefs.

Forget not who you are, for there is a place for everyone, but everyone must be in his place.

There is no class war in America. Black kids can succeed if they work. Just as white kids do. Black kids do not complain about poverty, they complain because a white man killed a black man. They say it themselves, shoot the whites, not shoot the rich. They are not after the bourgeoisie and the megacorporations, they do not care about that. They hate the white man's face, its presence. It is our - As white people - fault if they are allowed to burn cities and take over the street. What did we do to curb the violent minority ? Nothing. We said sorry and cried, so they saw us as weak. There is no place for weakness in any struggle.

So now the violent minority has become the violent majority. There is no solution but bringing the fire and violence to them. This is what they want, this is what they were born into. This is what they need because they will never stop.

If you are so devoted to defending them...Then do that. For them.

No, brother.

The belief that this conflict is racial in nature is what the bourgeois want both the White Man and the Black Man to believe. It keeps them distracted, divided, and ignorant of the greater class divide in America that continues to grow. In the 1860s, it was racial. In the 1960s, it was racial. But from the 1980s onward it has been about class and class alone. Race is being used as a veil to keep the poor fighting one another; that is the point. Do you not see it? The Middle Class is under assault, it is dying and more and more Americans are falling into poverty. This is true for all racial groups. Over 27% of Black American families live below the poverty line. 26% for Hispanics. 9% for Whites. These figures are growing steadily as the so-called "trickle-down" economics rob the poor of their hard-earned money and siphon it to the rich, who then store it in offshore bank accounts in tax havens. Wages across the country remain stagnant and have been since the 1970s, even as prices rise for necessities and luxury goods alike. Who do you think this affects most? The poor and the middle class, most of which comprise Black Americans and Hispanic Americans but also an increasing number of White Americans.

The numbers are rising. The rich remain rich, yet the poor are growing poorer. The difference is that the White American is taught that if they work hard and receive an education, that they will advance in life. And truly you can hear the success stories and think it's the truth... but it is not. It is a lie; a falsehood. I have seen it many times. Young people giving all their effort at work, pursuing more and more advanced forms of education, only to receive nothing but debt and unemployment the minute someone who is willing to work for cheaper pay becomes available for wire. In 1970 a single McDonalds employee earning minimum wage could fully own a car, a house, afford utilities, groceries, and gas, while also having enough spending money for luxuries and could pay off their college debt before they hit their 30s. Such a thing is no longer possible. Now they would be lucky to cover just the rent on an apartment.

The class war is real, brother. You can refute it and side with the oppressors but that only makes you an enemy of the proletariat. You can continue to convince yourself that the Black Man is your enemy, just as the Black Man can continue to convince himself the White Man is the enemy. You are both wrong. The rich do not care about your race. They expect you to work hard for dirty pay under the false illusion you can escape a life of serfdom. The "self-made man" is a dying breed, brother. You propose action toward the wrong people, all the while the poor suffer.

Nothing will come of these riots. No great change to fix the issues in law enforcement, nor any hope for liberation from the Plutocracy. As quick as the media was to beat the drums for race war they will just as quickly find something else to distract the proles with, as they always do. No just came after Rodney King; why should any come now? Democracy has failed. Capitalism has failed. America is doomed.

And whether you realize it or not you are contributing to that doom, brother. Because you cannot see past the lies and deceptions. The media tells you this is about race, and you believe it. The politicians tell you this is about race, and you believe it. The protesters tell you this is about race, and you believe it. But you fail to realize that the protesters were told it was about race from the politicians and the media as well. And they believed it. It is time we stop believing the lies and accepting the oppression of the poor, working class. If you cannot do that, then brother, you unwittingly serve the interests of the bourgeois. While police murder innocent men in cold blood and the people riot in reaction, while you call for a radical crackdown on people who have grown sick and tired of being beaten and murdered by their supposed protectors, they sit in their lofty mansions sipping expensive wine safe from the trouble. Laughing as men kill and beat each other. Counting the days until all goes back to normal and they can exploit those very men again.

Do not contribute to the disease, brother. It is sickening.

I need some endorses, pls

Fashmaster wrote:"Fascism has no need for the delirium of race."

Brother, you may disagree with me. But never question my beliefs. The only reason you refuse to see the class conflict inherit in American society is because you neither live here nor do you understand this nation's history. Do not call me a "shill" or accuse me of cowardice. I will not tolerate such libel.

You race-denialists love that stupid quote but you always forget the context to it. You always forget that Mussolini flip flopped between supporting scientific racism, to saying "it's a feeling" (LMFAO YE BOI IM FEELIN BLACK AF TODAY), and then to sit down and work on developing a proper fukken racial theory with Julius Evola. It's like is the magical permanent doctrine to Fascism but the other larger percentile of the rhetoric on the subject before and after doesn't exist. You are the one who is either misguided or a blatant shill, I've seen you push this mambo jumbo a few weeks ago, your understanding of Race and ethnicity is incomplete, flawed, fictitious. You genuinely don't seem to know what you're talking about and that's all fine and dandy until you start to conflate Traditionalist views of Race with thinly veiled race denial dressed up under the guise of an undefined sort of "spiritual race".

When we're talking about race we're not talking about your skin deep strawman BS. We're talking about Race that encompasses body spirit and soul, not just the material ethnic aspect from it. Inversion of the material value DOES NOT EQUAL AN IMMATERIAL VALUE, and you cannot sever the esoteric from it's material expression in the world. Peoples are different. Races are different. Just like Man and Woman have different truths to their condition of the sex, the various consciously perceived in-groups of blood have different truths to their condition of Race.

You know how you won't have """"""""""""class warfare""""""""""" being aided by engineered racial tensions?
BY NOT HAVING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT RACES IN THE SAME SOCIAL AND ECONOMICAL ECOSYSTEM OF A COUNTRY, BY HAVING A TRUE NATION

Fashmaster wrote:The numbers are rising. The rich remain rich, yet the poor are growing poorer. .

Gee I wonder which ethnic group's strong grip over all the economical, political and international financial landscape just keeps increasing over time.
TRULY SOMETHING TO WONDER ABOUT, it must be those filthy italians!

You're moving the goalposts and covering up 90% of the windshield and asking our members to turn the bus down to some precipice of ethno-masochism.
"The rich do not care about your race" because the more you screw around with the country's most basic form of identity (race) the harder it is to organize against the rootless enemy. Yes racial conflict is a distraction, and it cannot be ignored any more than a fire in your basement should be ignored whilst someone else tries to rob your house blind. There would be no racial tensions to weaponize IF THERE WERE NO INCOMPATIBLE GROUPS forced together to begin with.

Greater-Appalachia wrote:
Because it will hopefully lead to the collapse of this dreaded union?

Pretty much. I've also been following closely riot streams since 2013 (it's my netflix) and thus have gotten accustomed to the show. Its very sad to see small businesses get trashed. It's very nice to see large businesses and law enforcement get btfo.

P0RTVGAL watch out when you use multiply ("). It could be apology for some hierarchical people 😳😳😳

P0RTVGAL wrote:
Pretty much. I've also been following closely riot streams since 2013 (it's my netflix) and thus have gotten accustomed to the show. Its very sad to see small businesses get trashed. It's very nice to see large businesses and law enforcement get btfo.

It's one thing for a big business to get messed up, it's pocket change to them but that doesn't make it acceptable behavior. When innocent small businesses get trashed, that's when I get very mad. I don't agree with this union any more than anybody else here, but I don't think this kind of behavior is tolerable by any means. If we would support such savagery, then that would put us in the same boat as the Marxists and anarchists in that regard.

The thing about law enforcement I can't say I am happy about either because I know a lot of police officers who serve the community to the best of their ability and do their job as it is meant to be done. One of them I have known since we went to school together, and all he ever said wanted to do in High School for a career was to be in law enforcement, and to protect his community. Today he is a state police officer and has been doing a fine job by all accounts.

@P0RTVGAL

Brother, you have mistaken me entirely whether willingly or out of ignorance.

I do not deny that the race exists, nor do I champion some absurd notion of multiculturalism. You talk spiritual race but you words seem hollow and confounded by materialist philosophies. Traditionalist views on race? Brother, those are corporeal views - not immaterial ones. They bound in notions of 'blood' and 'genetics'; notions of superiority and inferiority intrinsically linked to simple biology. They are not only absurd and outlandish but outright unsupported by science.

What you fail to understand is that the point of division in America is not about race, but culture. From the day the very first slaves came to America there developed a second American culture that has evolved and developed to this day. Though both the White Man and the Black Man are American citizens, they are not of the same American culture. One was born into a culture defined by rights and liberties enshrined to his ancestors for over two centuries, whereas the other was born into a culture that originated in slavery and evolved under poverty and discrimination. The culture of White America and Black America are thus so radically different that members of one can easily be viewed as "foreign" to the other. The Black American, upon being freed of his binds, was not welcomed into American culture as a long-lost brother. The Black American, upon receiving actual rights enshrined by the lawful government of the United States, was not ushered into American culture as a newly-welcome addition.

Immigrants come. They embrace our laws, our traditions, our language, our way of life; OUR CULTURE. They come from all nations, of all races, and most conform to the broader American culture. Yet the Black American - native born - does not, because it is not his culture. It is "White Culture" to him. Something alien and strange. When he sees another Black Man who has embraced the American culture, he denigrates him for "wanting to be White". Never was there an attempt to integrate the Black Man into American culture. Never was there an attempt to make an American out of the Black American. Not in 1865 - not in 1968. You are intelligent enough to know that two contrasting cultures cannot exist within the same nation without inevitably descending into conflict. Multiculturalism is folly, and has long been the death of empires.

But you forget history, brother. Your own, in fact. The Roman Empire - glorious as it was; spiritual predecessor to the Romance cultures, of which Portugal is part of - concerned itself only with Romaness. All other cultures were annihilated and all peoples Romanized. They did not concern themselves with matters of blood and genetics. To be Roman in all things was to be part of the Roman race; this was Mussolini's view, and he did not change it. He change his words and approach, certainly. To appease the obsessive-compulsive nature of the NSDAP and their fervent Nordicism, who were his strongest allies abroad. It is not change of mind but change of strategy. To Il Duce, Hitler was a bore and a fool. He said as much quite openly. But Hitler had greater power than he did and he was not too pride as to be unable to see it. Never forget the Third Reich armed the Ethiopians during the Italian invasion. Never forget that these men were once, in fact, rivals and the change in Mussolini's words occurred only after an alliance was cemented. Mussolini was a pragmatist; a strategist. It is what made him the brilliant mind he was.

I do not deny that racism is still alive and well in America, but it is smaller now than it has ever been in the history of our nation. To ignore that fact is folly. I have seen men and women of every race interact in America. Every conflict I have seen between them was because of politics, religion, or culture - never race. Millions of Black Americans live as ordinary Americans embracing American culture and are accepted it for it. Yet millions still do not. Millions cling to an idea of "Blackness" - he need to distinguish oneself from the White Man in every way. It is why man Black Americans disavowed Christianity in favor of Islam, it is why many Black Americans dress and act as if they were from the ghetto when they are not, it is why many Black Americans cling to a false belief that every institution in the nation is run by White Supremacists trying to keep the Black Man down, and so on. The refusal to integrate Black Americans into American culture has led to them taking their own distinct culture and developing it further.

In truth, Dr. King would be ashamed to look upon the streets that bare his name and see they are decrepit places of crippling poverty run by gangs and riddled with drugs. He would be disgusted by how casually and liberally his people throw around the very racial slur used to dehumanize them. He would be revolted by the debauchery and criminality espoused in the lyrics of "gangsta" rap. He would be disappointed to hear how his people reject eloquence and grammar when speaking in favor of slang and profanity. This is not what he stood for, nor what he fought for, nor what he hoped to achieve. This is not the dream he envisioned. It is a perversion, and it is as much the fault of the White Man for creating it as it is the Black Man. You say that the Black Man and the White Man cannot coexist, but this is not true. I have seen it more times than I can count to know that this is untrue. The Black Man and the White Man can coexist, but they must be cut from the same cloth in order to so - that is, the same American culture.

Do not mistake this as an endorsement of pan-racialism or race-mixing or whatever other inclusive ideal fills you with a blistering rage. That is not what this is. I do not expect you - a European - to understand. Your world is not like my world. You have your ethnically homogeneous nation of which only a meager 5% are foreigners, most of which are immigrants. Every man, woman, and child in the United States is descended from immigrants. The 3rd most populous country on Earth, compared to the 89th. The 4th largest country on Earth, compared to the 109th. Our experiences are different. Our ways of life are different. Our views are different.

From my own experience I have found that the Black Man may live the American way of life without issue. Why then, should he not? It is my view that he should.

You are free to disagree, brother, but do not ever - ever - so arrogantly and furiously attempt to 'educate' me on the troubles in my own country, their source, their effects, and their solutions. Just as I would not tell you how to solve Portuguese problems, I would ask you not to tell me how to solve American problems. You cannot hope to solve American problems with Portuguese solutions and vice-versa. We are not the same, brother. Not in faith, not culture, not in history, not in being. Our mutual Whiteness does not make us kin.

What happened to George Floyd was a public execution and the governed are gradually withdrawing their consent.

The people have proven that modern police stations in the "world's most powerful nation" can simply be taken at will; "surrendered" by their former inhabitants. The Confederate crowd which eternally exalts the enshrined right of the people to insurrection should be thrilled with the revelation. It's greater than any they've accomplished in recent memory.

There is a huge multiracial element to the protests, many of which are peaceful. In Flint MI, Houston TX, SCZ CA, NJ, and MS, police removed their helmets and laid down their batons to march with the protesters. I've seen pictures of cops in NYC, OK and other places, kneeling in solidarity. In most cases where there is violence, it is instigated by the police, as documented in LA and FTL, who are under trained in deescalation and whose first response to group chanting is becoming combative and shooting tear gas.

Biology often inhibits the flow of empathy across racial lines and we're psychologically conditioned into a peasant mindset of fetishizing and rationalizing all violence committed by the armed-wing of powerful ruling classes while invalidating and demonizing all violence committed by comparatively powerless lower classes. The public rage is not simply about the fate of one victim and one police officer. It is about how emboldened and brazen normalized police violence has become to the point that it has now culminated to undeniable levels of criminal behavior in broad daylight with several witnesses present and no fear of repercussions. This is about experiencing police violence while protesting police violence.

Far more egregious than some destruction to insured property is the casualness and callousness in how the police arrogantly inflict their unjust uses of force: Tear gasing peacefully sitting protesters in the face (which kicked off the rioting in the first place), shooting rubber bullets at journalists for simply covering the story with video evidence, macing and shoving protesters to the ground while they're already in compliance and walking away from police, etc., the examples are numerous and being disseminated all over social media.

The social contract is in the process of being renegotiated and many Americans do not currently feel the need to police themselves with a selectively enforced, fictional civility to which the state does not adhere and exports globally. “Chaos is order yet undeciphered.” This is one of the most beautiful, self-cleansing regimes of American violence that I have been fortunate enough to witness in my lifetime. I make no apologies or concessions for my full support of the uprising.

There have been protests in London. However as they have been breaching lockdown regulations which to add are in a high-density zone the police are dispersing them as soon as they unveil themselves. This weekend 790 protests, parties and gatherings were shut down with no violence.

For once the UK Government is showing some spine in how it enforces public order.

The USA's situation appears to be similar to the 1926 General Strike- except for the protesters are weeks or days from breaking the authorities similar to 1926 in which the Trade Union Congress was mere days from installing a syndicalist government.

I wish to take no political opinion on such matters in the USA, but I watch diligently.

Giovanni Gentile wrote:What happened to George Floyd was a public execution and the governed are gradually withdrawing their consent.

The people have proven that modern police stations in the "world's most powerful nation" can simply be taken at will; "surrendered" by their former inhabitants. The Confederate crowd which eternally exalts the enshrined right of the people to insurrection should be thrilled with the revelation. It's greater than any they've accomplished in recent memory.

There is a huge multiracial element to the protests, many of which are peaceful. In Flint MI, Houston TX, SCZ CA, NJ, and MS, police removed their helmets and laid down their batons to march with the protesters. I've seen pictures of cops in NYC, OK and other places, kneeling in solidarity. In most cases where there is violence, it is instigated by the police, as documented in LA and FTL, who are under trained in deescalation and whose first response to group chanting is becoming combative and shooting tear gas.

Biology often inhibits the flow of empathy across racial lines and we're psychologically conditioned into a peasant mindset of fetishizing and rationalizing all violence committed by the armed-wing of powerful ruling classes while invalidating and demonizing all violence committed by comparatively powerless lower classes. The public rage is not simply about the fate of one victim and one police officer. It is about how emboldened and brazen normalized police violence has become to the point that it has now culminated to undeniable levels of criminal behavior in broad daylight with several witnesses present and no fear of repercussions. This is about experiencing police violence while protesting police violence.

Far more egregious than some destruction to insured property is the casualness and callousness in how the police arrogantly inflict their unjust uses of force: Tear gasing peacefully sitting protesters in the face (which kicked off the rioting in the first place), shooting rubber bullets at journalists for simply covering the story with video evidence, macing and shoving protesters to the ground while they're already in compliance and walking away from police, etc., the examples are numerous and being disseminated all over social media.

The social contract is in the process of being renegotiated and many Americans do not currently feel the need to police themselves with a selectively enforced, fictional civility to which the state does not adhere and exports globally. “Chaos is order yet undeciphered.” This is one of the most beautiful, self-cleansing regimes of American violence that I have been fortunate enough to witness in my lifetime. I make no apologies or concessions for my full support of the uprising.

Nor should you, brother, for the uprising is entirely just. American law enforcement is no longer about upholding the law and keeping the peace. It is a systematic tool for plutocratic oppression of the working class; the end sum of a capitalist state. It has been like this for decades and has affected Americans of all racial groups, yet only of lower class. The violence, the abuse, the corruption, and the criminality intrinsic to the U.S. police force must end and even law enforcement officers are beginning to realize this as you have said.

Still, I fear nothing will come of this. The current administration has shown no interest in safeguarding even it's constituents let alone the general public. They would rather sacrifice the masses in the millions in order to ensure the survival of the "economy".

Take note, brothers! America represents the fate of capitalist states! So it shall be for all the West! The crisis must be averted - honor, dignity, justice, and order must be brought back to the hallowed halls of governance! Let us not run our nations into the ground on idealistic notions of liberal democracy and global free trade!

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