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The Ecologist Green Party of Mexico is environmentalist but otherwise right-wing, so I oppose adding any leftist tags to the region.

Ownzone, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, and 4 othersPalos heights, Awhaiti-kaia-atu, Apolloloreyvarterria, and Forest turtle

Forniphiliac limbo of inabilis wrote:Oh geez... I just realized people are using actual numbers.. I simply 'picked' one or another, but now I got how it's done.. gonna resubmit mine too, through the telegram link!

I’m going to unofficially request you don’t submit it via the form and instead do it here, because Mont hasn’t had time to fix the form and add a field for your name so it’s not anonymous :P

Zwangzug, Forniphiliac limbo of inabilis, Ownzone, Ruinenlust, and 4 othersNew sullivan, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Turbeaux wrote:The Ecologist Green Party of Mexico is environmentalist but otherwise right-wing, so I oppose adding any leftist tags to the region.

By tagging the region as leftist you run the risk of becoming an echo chamber and considering some of the most to the left are also some of the most vocal on the RMB I have seen the RMB as a whole sometimes shift in that direction. This isn't bad per se but it is also doesn't look inviting to "other minded" people to join the discussion. On top of that "claiming" the environment as "leftist terrority" gives the right the excuse they need to not give a damn as they (mostly) have been sofar. So I am also firmly against tagging the region in a political sense.

The new bluestocking homeland, Candlewhisper Archive, Isbjorn Maerenne Bava Paerani, Ruinenlust, and 9 othersNew sullivan, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Darths and Droids, Palos heights, Awhaiti-kaia-atu, Turbeaux, Forest turtle, and Crabs

Well, that certainly generated some comprehensive responses! Just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting adopting in-game tags, flying a red flag from the ramparts, purging the region of revisionists and backsliders, or removing"Forest welcomes all nations" from the top of the WFE. It did grate, however, when we walked away from that invitation to participate in an interregional forum on WA issues because it included The Internationale. That went beyond avoiding identifying as socialists and deliberately passed up an opportunity to promote an environmentalist agenda. Talking to people from The Internationale wouldn't have turned us into The Internationale any more than talking to Drasnia turned us into his home region of Capitalist Paradise.

The new bluestocking homeland, Caracasus, Forniphiliac limbo of inabilis, Ownzone, and 8 othersRuinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Darths and Droids, Palos heights, Turbeaux, and Forest turtle

Uan aa Boa wrote:Well, that certainly generated some comprehensive responses! Just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting adopting in-game tags, flying a red flag from the ramparts, purging the region of revisionists and backsliders, or removing"Forest welcomes all nations" from the top of the WFE. It did grate, however, when we walked away from that invitation to participate in an interregional forum on WA issues because it included The Internationale. That went beyond avoiding identifying as socialists and deliberately passed up an opportunity to promote an environmentalist agenda. Talking to people from The Internationale wouldn't have turned us into The Internationale any more than talking to Drasnia turned us into his home region of Capitalist Paradise.

Damn. When was that? I must have been asleep at the wheel.

Forniphiliac limbo of inabilis, Ruinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, and 2 othersPalos heights, and Forest turtle

I should also be clear that a fundamentally important thing about Forest is that decisions and policies aren't handed down by leaders but emerge from discussion and polling. I've been struck by the number of times we've been holding an open vote on an embassy or a treaty and the other region has said "Yes, the Council is voting on that" or something similar. Long may this direct democracy continue. It's enormously healthy that if I want to change a policy I have to do it here appealing to everyone rather than by trying to become Forest Keeper or suck up to an inner clique that operates off-site. So even if I moan a bit about the way we sometimes treat leftist regions, I'm not blind to the positivity of the way I stunningly failed to close our old inactive embassies, or how we refused to go along with the plan to join a Z-day coalition and rejected that constitutional amendment. Some regional governments get their choices rubber stamped - Democratic Socialist Alliance is having a crisis because their leader is so tired of not being challenged that he's started impeachment proceedings against himself - but governing Forest is like herding cats and I hope we can all agree that that's exactly as it should be.

The new bluestocking homeland, Caracasus, Candlewhisper Archive, Forniphiliac limbo of inabilis, and 11 othersOwnzone, Ruinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Darths and Droids, Palos heights, Turbeaux, Forest turtle, Crabs, and Elundris

Why is issue #927 named “Your Assignment, Should You Choose to Accept It”
because that is bad grammar

Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Uan aa Boa wrote: - Democratic Socialist Alliance is having a crisis because their leader is so tired of not being challenged that he's started impeachment proceedings against himself

I can see Monthy Python having a field day with that occurence!

The new bluestocking homeland, Ruinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, and 6 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Uan aa Boa, Palos heights, Turbeaux, Forest turtle, and Crabs

Sapnu puas wrote:Why is issue #927 named “Your Assignment, Should You Choose to Accept It”
because that is bad grammar

That's perfectly good grammar. It's also a reference to the TV series Mission Impossible in which secret agents would receive their instructions in a recording that included the words "Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is..." before ending "This message will self destruct in 5 seconds."

Candlewhisper Archive, Ruinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, and 6 othersSapnu puas, Aeterno tranquillitas, Darths and Droids, Palos heights, Forest turtle, and Elundris

Last week's Post an Account... event was very successful, so thank you all for taking part!

I am thinking that I will make this a fortnightly occurrence, rather than a weekly one. When I ran this weekly, I noticed that the number of replies dropped considerably.

I'll be updating the attached sticky this week. In the meantime, if there is anything anyone wants to write on, please let me know! I'm always on the lookout for new themes.

Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Crazed pirates

I'm probably late for the political compass party... But if it even matters anymore...
Economic Left/Right
-2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian
-0.05
(Hey, I'm still center-left)

Ruinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, and 1 otherForest turtle

i forgot how i found my current picture

Ruinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, and 1 otherForest turtle

Uan aa Boa wrote:Well, that certainly generated some comprehensive responses! Just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting adopting in-game tags, flying a red flag from the ramparts, purging the region of revisionists and backsliders, or removing"Forest welcomes all nations" from the top of the WFE. It did grate, however, when we walked away from that invitation to participate in an interregional forum on WA issues because it included The Internationale. That went beyond avoiding identifying as socialists and deliberately passed up an opportunity to promote an environmentalist agenda. Talking to people from The Internationale wouldn't have turned us into The Internationale any more than talking to Drasnia turned us into his home region of Capitalist Paradise.

If this ever happened, I either wasn’t aware of it or you’re spinning the WA bloc proposal into something it wasn’t. :P We were invited to join a voting bloc of explicitly Leftist regions, and while they agreed not to make the goals of the bloc include supporting leftism to accommodate us and others (which I thank them for), The Internationale was very clear they thought of this as a bloc to advance left-leaning goals in the WA, not just an alliance of friendly regions.

In any case, we rehashed this long ago and it’s well over and gone. :P The good thing about Forest is these types of debates always come up again, in new forms with new angles to consider. We can be inconsistent with what we decide as a region sometimes, but that’s a fundamental result of direct democracy. And it’s all rooted in common sense.

Demopolitania, The new bluestocking homeland, Ruinenlust, New sullivan, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Darths and Droids, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Sapnu puas wrote:i forgot how i found my current picture

The body is Mario from Super Mario Odyssey, if that helps. I didn't know that, but Google Image search did.

Lord Dominator, Sapnu puas, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Caracasus wrote:Last week's Post an Account... event was very successful, so thank you all for taking part!

I am thinking that I will make this a fortnightly occurrence, rather than a weekly one. When I ran this weekly, I noticed that the number of replies dropped considerably.

I'll be updating the attached sticky this week. In the meantime, if there is anything anyone wants to write on, please let me know! I'm always on the lookout for new themes.

I might post my own stuff more frequently if that's okay; I'm running behind on issues whose consequences I want to explore. ;) (Not even my own, just...fun ones!)

The new bluestocking homeland, Caracasus, Mount Seymour, Ruinenlust, and 4 othersLord Dominator, Uan aa Boa, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Mount Seymour wrote:If this ever happened, I either wasn’t aware of it or you’re spinning the WA bloc proposal into something it wasn’t. :P We were invited to join a voting bloc of explicitly Leftist regions, and while they agreed not to make the goals of the bloc include supporting leftism to accommodate us and others (which I thank them for), The Internationale was very clear they thought of this as a bloc to advance left-leaning goals in the WA, not just an alliance of friendly regions.

The bloc included Social Liberal Union and Democratic Socialist Assembly, whose views seem to cluster in about the same place as ours and The Versutian Federation who have no political branding, Trump supporters in their cabinet and an embassy with Capitalist Paradise. The only thing that really connected us was that we all had embassies with DSA and an interest in WA matters.

Of course The Internationale saw it as a means of advancing a left wing agenda, just as we would have seen it as a way of advancing an environmentalist agenda. What joint enterprise ever has identical motivations for all the participants? As you say, there was a collective willingness to rewrite the mission statement to be as inclusive as it was required to be. Paradoxically, we were so concerned with being inclusive that this turned out to be impossible. And as a result my only way of avoiding WA work being a lone endeavour has been to send my WA membership to another region.

Demopolitania, The new bluestocking homeland, Ownzone, Ruinenlust, and 7 othersNew sullivan, Lord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Darths and Droids, Palos heights, Norvert, and Forest turtle

Zwangzug wrote:I might post my own stuff more frequently if that's okay; I'm running behind on issues whose consequences I want to explore. ;) (Not even my own, just...fun ones!)

Go nuts! Honestly, I don't mind. If you spot a particularly good theme though, please send it my way.

Zwangzug, The new bluestocking homeland, Ruinenlust, New sullivan, and 4 othersLord Dominator, Aeterno tranquillitas, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:The body is Mario from Super Mario Odyssey, if that helps. I didn't know that, but Google Image search did.

It is shirtless mario with the infamous Bubsy the bobcat that says “What could PAWsibly go wrong?”

Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Palos heights

Caracasus wrote:Last week's Post an Account... event was very successful, so thank you all for taking part!

I am thinking that I will make this a fortnightly occurrence, rather than a weekly one. When I ran this weekly, I noticed that the number of replies dropped considerably.

I'll be updating the attached sticky this week. In the meantime, if there is anything anyone wants to write on, please let me know! I'm always on the lookout for new themes.

Saying fortnight makes me think of Colonial America and frontier exploring. So how about "Tales from the Frontier"?

The new bluestocking homeland, Caracasus, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 2 othersNorvert, and Forest turtle

Palos heights wrote:Saying fortnight makes me think of Colonial America and frontier exploring. So how about "Tales from the Frontier"?

I gots that there dysentery pa

The new bluestocking homeland, Caracasus, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 3 othersAeterno tranquillitas, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

No, Crabs, what happened to your endorsement?! D:

I have clearly failed in my duty to raise awareness on the plight of crustaceans.

Crazed pirates, The new bluestocking homeland, Candlewhisper Archive, Mount Seymour, and 4 othersRuinenlust, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, and Forest turtle

Uan aa Boa wrote:The bloc included Social Liberal Union and Democratic Socialist Assembly, whose views seem to cluster in about the same place as ours and The Versutian Federation who have no political branding, Trump supporters in their cabinet and an embassy with Capitalist Paradise. The only thing that really connected us was that we all had embassies with DSA and an interest in WA matters.

Of course The Internationale saw it as a means of advancing a left wing agenda, just as we would have seen it as a way of advancing an environmentalist agenda. What joint enterprise ever has identical motivations for all the participants? As you say, there was a collective willingness to rewrite the mission statement to be as inclusive as it was required to be. Paradoxically, we were so concerned with being inclusive that this turned out to be impossible. And as a result my only way of avoiding WA work being a lone endeavour has been to send my WA membership to another region.

Maybe we should test the waters what the nations exactly expect from this region. I would have supported the collaboration and still do as I support and suggest collaboration during the next event. I was sad to see you move your WA membership to another region which as good-hearted as it is meant to be will most likely only lead to further erosion of the direct political influence of Forest in the WA. I am against accumulation of influence and power and I would rather see the starting regions influence decline instead of making theirs bigger in an attempt to get some grip on it at the cost of Forest. But I can understand you felt like this was a good move as the attempt to increase the indirect influence of Forest on the WA through a collaboration didn't get of the ground because it lacked full and unquestioned support. Maybe you are the regions Marty McFly...........

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Lord Dominator and Forest turtle

This is why I joined Forest. In addition to the environment I enjoy discussions such as these, and I will tell y'all that it is rare that there's any sort of introspection on our own beliefs. Normally you'd only find that in religious or philosophical folk, not political folk.

Here's how I see the Political Alignment test/score/whatever, and I'll echo Mount Seymour's point: just as he and Lord Dominator are Defender and Raider respectively (and I'll add my NPO affiliation to that list), so can we all be a particular ideology individually and yet, in spite of this, regionally we are a conglomerate of belief and affiliation, a true melting pot, defined by Forest's uniting, apolitical/GP theme, that of the environment. It doesn't matter that on some days, Z-Day for instance, we start sounding like Trump to everyone else; and on other days when discussing the difference between American and EU politics we sound like Marx resurrected -- what does matter is we're open and welcoming to all. Take it from me, your typical right-winger moderate American who voted for Trump.

I shall also repeat my statements on Discord, namely that some of the test options I have no idea what they really meant and why they were so binary. I sometimes made my decision based on how Leftwing the other option was (and thus how much I disagree with it), not because I agreed with the Rightwing option. Still, I did notice from taking the test previously a year or two ago that some of my options tended less toward the "Strongly Agree" to just "Agree" and vis-versa. Only one section got the Strongly part all the way through, and even that one had one or two options that I personally disagreed with. My rambling point is that the test is only a sampling of our beliefs, and that many of us could be more moderate than the test parameters will allow us.

Still, though, it was pretty amusing to be the only Authoritarian/Right fellow on the scale for a time (at least until the new map gets made with additional information; I know there's at least one other fellow who is like me, just a bit further right and down). Just an example to those who think Forest is left-wing oriented. They see all of these commies and tankies and whatnot, and suddenly TRUMP. :)

Demopolitania, Chan island, Forniphiliac limbo of inabilis, Mount Seymour, and 7 othersRuinenlust, New sullivan, Lord Dominator, Palos heights, Simad, Forest turtle, and Elundris

Demopolitania

Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.9

8values Results

Economic Axis: Socialist
79.3%
20.7%
Diplomatic Axis: Peaceful
30.3%
69.7%
Civil Axis: Liberal
74.6%
25.4%
Societal Axis: Progressive
38.3%
61.7%
Closest Match: Libertarian Socialism

Can't figure out how to link to Nolan chart results but it said I was a liberal just at the intersection of liberalism, statism, and centrism.

Spekr
Economic -53
Cultural -57
Libertarian Socialist

Politiscales
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?b0=81&b1=5&c1=7&c0=79&s0=71&s1=17&j0=86&m0=95&p1=5&p0=86&t1=10&t0=74&e0=83&e1=5&reli=67&vega=100&femi=90&anar=100&prag=67 Socialism · Justice · Ecology

My favourite was the Nolan Chart because of its blatant propaganda tactic of herding the respondent into the "correct" right-libertarian answer by making it the only one to include any reasoning behind it while all the other answers tend to be childish declarative statements that get more absurd the further left they get.

I think Libertarian Socialist is accurate in most cases, but for me green politics take precedence over human issues. For example even though I want to live in a stateless society I wouldn't vote to abolish it if I thought environmental regulations were the only thing protecting an ecosystem, and I would rather be in a coalition with religious conservatives who want to preserve forests as part of their local heritage than with progressive socialists who support clear-cutting as a source of good union jobs. I don't think the tests really accounted for that so I gave some facetiously right-wing answers to make the final results more accurate.

Chan island wrote:No, Crabs, what happened to your endorsement?! D:

I have clearly failed in my duty to raise awareness on the plight of crustaceans.

🧐 Crabs are fickle folk mate. 😁

Chan island, Mount Seymour, Ruinenlust, New sullivan, and 5 othersLord Dominator, Palos heights, Norvert, Forest turtle, and Elundris

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