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Social Liberal Union RMB

WA Delegate: The Federal Republic of Austerain (elected )

Founder: The Social Liberal Republic of Ainland

Board Poll Activity History Admin Rank

Most World Assembly Endorsements: 6th Most Influential: 30th Most Nations: 57th+18
Nicest Citizens: 665th Most Cheerful Citizens: 689th Most Compassionate Citizens: 699th Most Rebellious Youth: 731st Most Inclusive: 862nd Most Cultured: 947th Largest Welfare Programs: 984th Least Corrupt Governments: 1,058th Best Weather: 1,071st Smartest Citizens: 1,188th Most Beautiful Environments: 1,211th Most Eco-Friendly Governments: 1,385th Most Advanced Public Education: 1,403rd Healthiest Citizens: 1,478th Longest Average Lifespans: 1,563rd Most Extensive Public Healthcare: 1,631st Largest Publishing Industry: 1,652nd Most Advanced Public Transport: 1,893rd
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A region for democratic socialists and socially minded liberals.

Values
The SLU is a region dedicated to democracy, social welfare, equality and freedom of opinion; debate is encouraged.
Welcome! Please endorse the WA Delegate, Austerain, and enjoy a cookie. (::)

NO RECRUITMENT: The SLU is a longstanding signatory to the Arnhelm Declaration.


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Embassies: Democratic Socialist Assembly, The Versutian Federation, International Democratic Union, A Liberal Haven, and The Region That Has No Big Banks.

Tags: Enormous, Featured, Regional Government, Role Player, Offsite Forums, Socialist, Liberal, Map, and Democratic.

Regional Power: Very High

Social Liberal Union contains 196 nations, the 57th most in the world.

Today's World Census Report

The Highest Crime Rates in Social Liberal Union

World Census interns were dispatched to seedy back alleys in order to determine which nations have the highest crime rates.

As a region, Social Liberal Union is ranked 10,291st in the world for Highest Crime Rates.

NationWA CategoryMotto
1.The Free Land of ArdeetianaCapitalizt“It's your choice.”
2.The Khaos Konfederacy of Rexzich CityScandinavian Liberal Paradise“Khaos Reigns!”
3.The Heretical Fatherland of VageslaviaNew York Times Democracy“The one who lies the best is right.”
4.The Council Republic of North American RepublicsCivil Rights Lovefest“People and Planet Before Profit”
5.The Empire of The Dylanian StatesCorporate Bordello“Their land their People their Blood”
6.The Holy Empire of IntellicityAnarchy“Justice, Piety, Loyalty”
7.The United Kingdom of Chipped StoneCapitalizt“Strength Through Freedom”
8.The Great and Terrible Kingdom of Outer OzCapitalist Paradise“Glory & Glamour”
9.The Ruritanian Principality of HentzauAnarchy“We stand aside for none”
10.The Republic of FranciationAnarchy“Liberal Freedom and Stuff”
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Regional Poll • Is euthanasia (ending the life of the incurably sick [with their consent]) justified?

The Republic of Courelli wrote:Feel free to discuss on the RMB.

Voting opened 1 day 6 hours ago and will close . Open to residents. You cannot vote as you are not logged in.

Recent polls: “How old are you?”“Is the glass half-full or half-empty?”

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Social Liberal Union Regional Message Board

The United Socialist States of Thashtar wrote:Surely it's a doctor's job to help people live, not kill them? Rather than funding euthanasia, wouldn't the money be better spent saving lives and researching new treatment?

A person's job in a capitalist society is whatever is agreed between the employer and the employee. If I so wish (and if the person I'm employing agrees), I can hire a plumber to dismantle my drainage system, employ a cook to pour salt into my soup, or pay a cleaner to sweep dust onto the floor. Why should I then not be able to, if I so wish, ask a doctor to ensure I stop living?

What I choose to do with my life is nobody's business but my own. If anything, I think euthanasia should be available even for fully healthy people.

Furthermore, properly treating a patient in critical condition is expensive. If patients that do not wish to live are not kept alive, does that not free up resources for the treatment of those patients that do wish to live? Even if the cost of euthanasia is so great as to compromise other medical ventures (which it isn't), a person's right to his or her life is such a fundamental right that it should overrule all but the most extreme of utilitarian concerns.

Phrenics and Courelli

The United Socialist States of Thashtar wrote:Ok.
So the founder can hold office (but not WA delegate). To me, that's too much concentration of power

If that's the case, don't vote for the Founder for any elected office.

Also, why did you resign from the WA? Not angry or anything, just wondering.

The Republican Confederation of Plzen wrote:A person's job in a capitalist society is whatever is agreed between the employer and the employee. If I so wish (and if the person I'm employing agrees), I can hire a plumber to dismantle my drainage system, employ a cook to pour salt into my soup, or pay a cleaner to sweep dust onto the floor. Why should I then not be able to, if I so wish, ask a doctor to ensure I stop living?
What I choose to do with my life is nobody's business but my own. If anything, I think euthanasia should be available even for fully healthy people.
Furthermore, properly treating a patient in critical condition is expensive. If patients that do not wish to live are not kept alive, does that not free up resources for the treatment of those patients that do wish to live? Even if the cost of euthanasia is so great as to compromise other medical ventures (which it isn't), a person's right to his or her life is such a fundamental right that it should overrule all but the most extreme of utilitarian concerns.


I am more disposed to paternalism, but as for euthanasia, I see it as a matter of dignity and what you say is right on the spot.

Courelli

The United Socialist States of Thashtar wrote:Ok.
So the founder can hold office (but not WA delegate). To me, that's too much concentration of power


The Founder doesn't actually have any power. It is more of a ceremonial role. The ability and act of appointing officers is really just an administrative mechanism, an OOC act if you like. Please be assured that I am fully committed to the democracy of this region and take great care to never appear to interfere with this. However, as Courelli pointed out, having an active Founder does bring advantages in terms of regional security, as has previously been demonstrated. I will only exercise my administrative abilities if properly instructed by a member of the cabinet, or in an emergency, in accordance with the constitution.

I'm grateful to the region for giving me the ability to stand for elected office. If anything, this should serve as reinforcement of the fact that I am just a regular member nation here. At least in terms of power. Although I do humbly recognise that, in a ceremonial sense, I am significant part of the region :)

Mons Garle, Harndon, and Thashtar

I voted for sometimes justified on this issue based on the fact that I would worry about pressure being put on those who feel they are a burden to their family/carers/friends, and so may feel more inclined to end their own lives because of that.

Ainland and Harndon

The Republic of Courelli wrote:If that's the case, don't vote for the Founder for any elected office.
Also, why did you resign from the WA? Not angry or anything, just wondering.

Sorry, just remembered how annoying the WA was, especially when some other nations put up a ridiculous resolution and it actually gets through.

The Republican Confederation of Plzen wrote:
What I choose to do with my life is nobody's business but my own. If anything, I think euthanasia should be available even for fully healthy people.

What? So healthy people, with no mental illness, no horrific, incurable illness can just go "yeah, I'm having a bad day, don't particularly feel like living, just going to end it"
With all due respect, are you out of your mind? Are you really that kind of person that sets such a low value on life?

Phrenics and Jevoruz

The Republican Confederation of Plzen wrote:A person's job in a capitalist society is whatever is agreed between the employer and the employee.


Bwahahaha how are things in the country club? For 98% of us, we have no bargaining power in our employment duties.

Plzen and Harndon

The Sackers and Salvagers of South Arcturus wrote:Bwahahaha how are things in the country club? For 98% of us, we have no bargaining power in our employment duties.

Actually, wages are determined by the supply and demand of workforce. When an industry grows, the workforce makes more money due to its increased demand. That also grants them more leverage over their employers.

The United Socialist States of Thashtar wrote:What? So healthy people, with no mental illness, no horrific, incurable illness can just go "yeah, I'm having a bad day, don't particularly feel like living, just going to end it"
With all due respect, are you out of your mind? Are you really that kind of person that sets such a low value on life?

It doesn't matter what the value of a life is. Maybe it's valuable, maybe it's not. That is completely irrelevant to the situation.

The important thing is that my life is mine. Consequently I should be able to do as I please with it, including getting rid of it for any reason, or maybe no reason at all.

The Sackers and Salvagers of South Arcturus wrote:Bwahahaha how are things in the country club? For 98% of us, we have no bargaining power in our employment duties.

This is why I'm a social democrat, heh. Labour is entitled to all that it creates.

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