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Forest was Commended by Security Council Resolution # 219

WA Delegate (non-executive): The Old Growth Forests of Ruinenlust (elected )

Founder: The Cool Temperate Rainforests of Errinundera

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Most World Assembly Endorsements: 21st Most Nations: 37th Most Influential: 66th+17
Most Valuable International Artwork: 297th Best Weather: 844th Most Beautiful Environments: 932nd Most Rebellious Youth: 946th Most Eco-Friendly Governments: 1,087th Largest Black Market: 1,223rd Most Compassionate Citizens: 1,314th Nicest Citizens: 1,321st Most Cultured: 1,417th Most Inclusive: 1,429th Most Devout: 1,798th Healthiest Citizens: 1,922nd Most Extensive Public Healthcare: 1,955th Largest Welfare Programs: 1,984th Smartest Citizens: 2,083rd Most Advanced Public Education: 2,178th Most Advanced Public Transport: 2,393rd
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🌲 Forest welcomes all nations, especially those concerned with the environment.


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Quote of the Fortnight

"It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment."

~ Ansel Adams

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    September: Ed Abbey & Industrial "Wilderness" Tourism

    AccountOther by Turbeaux . 37 reads.

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    Forest's Statistics Grove

    MetaReference by Kawastyselir . 274 reads.

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    Maps of Forest

    MetaReference by Octopus Islands . 2,136 reads.

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    Government Transparency Report #8 - Aug/Sep 2020

    MetaGameplay by Verdant Haven . 72 reads.

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    Want to be an Ambassador?

    MetaGameplay by Verdant Haven . 232 reads.

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    An announcement regarding the delegacy

    MetaGameplay by Verdant Haven . 158 reads.

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    The Cabinets of Forest

    MetaReference by Kawastyselir . 98 reads.

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    MetaReference by Palos Heights . 497 reads.

  9. 16

    Forest Directory

    MetaReference by Mount Seymour . 1,107 reads.

  10. 34

    Constitution of Forest

    MetaReference by Mount Seymour . 2,377 reads.

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    Forest Regional History

    MetaReference by Mozworld . 1,846 reads.

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Embassies: Philosophy 115, Eladen, Hippy Haven, Yggdrasil, International Democratic Union, Antarctica, Winterfell, Sunalaya, Antarctic Oasis, Texas, Canada, A Liberal Haven, Union of Free Nations, Singapore, The Region That Has No Big Banks, Democratic Socialist Assembly, and 19 others.the Rejected Realms, The Bar on the corner of every region, the South Pacific, Oatland, Haiku, Portugal, 10000 Islands, Spiritus, Conch Kingdom, The North Pacific, The Leftist Assembly, Europe, Sonindia, Wintreath, Osiris, Refugia, The Union of Democratic States, Thalassia, and New West Indies.

Construction of embassies with Force has commenced. Completion expected .

Tags: Casual, Commended, Democratic, Eco-Friendly, Enormous, Featured, Issues Player, Map, Multi-Species, Offsite Chat, Pacifist, Regional Government, and 2 others.Social, and World Assembly.

Regional Power: Extremely High

Forest contains 459 nations, the 37th most in the world.

Today's World Census Report

The Rudest Citizens in Forest

World Census experts telephoned citizens from all nations at just before dinner time, in a study to determine which populations were most brash, rude, or brusque.

As a region, Forest is ranked 6,087th in the world for Rudest Citizens.

NationWA CategoryMotto
1.The Venerable Skald of DrasniaAnarchy“Second star to the right and straight on till morning.”
2.The AI See You of Candlewhisper ArchiveAnarchy“You Got Issues”
3.The Sylvan Hivə of TurbeauxCivil Rights Lovefest“Not only doəs God play dicə, thə dicə arə loadəd.”
4.The Burning Trash Fire of Lord DominatorCompulsory Consumerist State“Fire Solves All Things”
5.The Total Lack of Hue ManateeCivil Rights Lovefest“I'm sorry you feel that way”
6.The Old Growth Forests of RuinenlustCivil Rights Lovefest“ the ruin of all. Yet hope remains.”
7.The Malevolent Melons of HoneydewistaniaCapitalist Paradise“Cash, Capital and Cantaloupes”
8.The Secular State of DeimosanInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Live Long, Live Well”
9.The Queendom of ThorvelMoralistic Democracy“In the name of God, On guard !”
10.The Hotdog-craving birb of SeagullCorporate Police State“Ack? Ack!”
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Last poll: “Shall Forest open embassies with Force? ”

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Forest Regional Message Board

The Final Sith Order wrote:Why and how would people remember something for that long?

That must seem just strange, does it?

Facebook for countries attract a certain style of people :P

Atsvea wrote:Facebook for countries attract a certain style of people :P

Certain styles?

The Final Sith Order wrote:Why and how would people remember something for that long?

That must seem just strange, does it?

In games of this type, where politics (both real and simulated) form a large part of the core gameplay activity, "the long game" is measured in years. There are groups and alliances active in NS that are older than some of our players, and memories necessarily are that long for troubles others have caused. CCD's blatantly real-world fascist activities are far from ancient history - it's less than a year since they allegedly gave those up. Given that they spent years lying about it before, nobody is going to immediately trust them now.

Something like the Guiding Hand Social Club assassination and theft in EVE Online is a taste of the sort of long-game skullduggery people will do in political games (worth a read if you're unfamiliar), with real world diplomats, government workers, and policy wonks trying their hand in a world without limits.

Darths and Droids wrote:Meanwhile I'd probably always take the long view. The fellow's a terrorist that has threatened my nation and killed lots and lots of my people. If he lives, many more will die. It is regrettable that the children will die as a consequence but that is collateral I'll have to deal with -- and so what if it radicalizes others to fight you, if that's the case then so be it. It may be a net-zero in PR but it is a gain in the fight because you've knocked out a major leader of the other side.

You can't always abide by morality in a war with the other side who does not give a flying fook about the rules of warfare, so why should you? Now, if it were a conventional enemy, then, yeah, the rules of war will apply. But terrorists? They live to create terror, as that's the only way they can do stuff without getting carpet-bombed in a conventional war. No matter, play by their rules, and they will cease to exist.

In universe, DND wouldn't let the kids die no matter how insane that sounds, while TAH would nuke the continent for good measure.

You see, the thing about that is

1) We don't actually know if the terrorist will kill again.

People mellow when they become parents, even terrorists. I suppose at fault on that one is the issue text itself, it should be tweaked to introduce that uncertainty. But there's still no 100% guarantee they actually will kill again.

2) The PR thing, which you pointed out but...

3) It's pernicious on security service culture.

Basically, whenever the 'dark arts' are allowed for security services, be it army, cops or spies, they will abuse it. There also, often is a glory aspect that gets introduced, with there being a long term insidious effect of personnel one-upping each other in service of the state. The only real way of dealing with it is to deny it from ever taking root. Taking the shot in the issue scenario introduces that unwelcome precedent.

The Final Sith Order wrote:Certain styles?

People that never forget (or forgive)

Dr Teeth wrote:People that never forget (or forgive)


Or both maybe?

I need a few examples of people like them.

that which ends is forgivable. if only long after.
forget the pain, but remember how it was caused, and how what caused it came about, and look for ways that actually work, for preventing that.

the lure of deterrence is easy to fall into the trap of vengeance, and sometimes, even usually, there are cultural strategies that just work better.

I love picking crazy issue options because they increase my weather score slightly. We love NationStates.

Canaltia wrote:

Today's a good day for me. After 10 months of chest pain, nausea, and other symptoms, visits to 6 different hospitals, many blood tests, and a handful of ECGs, ultrasounds, x-rays and so on, I just got a diagnosis. Apparently, I had the Coxsackie virus, and now it's gone but I need time to heal.

The treatment for this is to do no physical activity and eat iodine heavy foods for a few months. Basically, I'm supposed to sit around and eat packaged food. I've been trying to exercise more and eat healthier ever since this started, so it kind of explains why it got so bad. Though I do have to give up literally anything spicy, so that's a downside.

I was gunna complain about shingles, but jebus. Good to hear things are looking up for you.

Been reading about viruses generally over the last week, and am fascinated by their role in horizontal/inter-species genetic exchange and evolution. Two thoughts occur:

1) I need to re-watch Annihilation as I think there's some thematic overlap here.

2) We better get some superpowers or something, or i'm gunna be pissed /:|

Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:I was gunna complain about shingles, but jebus. Good to hear things are looking up for you.

I don't know about that. I hear shingles is pretty nasty. Of course, I've only had the one, but if you have or have had shingles, I hope you get better soon, or are doing better.

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