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Post self-deleted by Ancient vikonia.
I will. You asked nicely.
Try not to sound desperate next time.
Aelyria and Garomia
Age, inflation, and medical bills. (Okay technically only the first of those but humor.) Bit easy this time!
Age! And happy birthday!
Vamperiall and Zunden
Hello guys,
I have put forth a proposal in the WA.
I hereby do request all of you to endorse me and support this proposal.
This is the proposal Id
shristhanak_1565797663
Please do help me....
Shristhanak
The proposal was already held. NationStates requires proposals to be written a certain way. The proposal rules are a good place to start. 
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348
Also if the proposal was legal, "requesting" that people support the proposal is a fruitless endeavor. Proposals can only be approved by Regional Delegates, of which this region only has one. The proposal ID is not necessary as people can find it quite easily just by looking at the proposal tab of the WA.
All of this isn't to discourage you from writing proposals, but you should read the basic rules, and float your draft in the WA forum (viewforum.php?f=9&sid=6704c33ca0b9fbf51dc1152229099285) before submitting it for approval. Getting approval on a draft is the final step, not the first step. Before you even start writing a draft however, check the backlog of existing WA legislation to see if something similar has been passed before. As the saying goes, there's nothing new under the sun.
Last point, as for civil rights, the WA and most forums are generally "in-character", nations can't see their own "score" of anything, just as in real life. Civil rights proposals would be things like mandating free birth control, forbidding whistleblowers from being punished, etc (all of these are already existing legislation in case you were wondering).
Best of luck, proposals are probably the single hardest thing to get right in NationStates, but once you do and people start approving it, it's a wonderful feeling.
Post by Khanter snipe region 04 suppressed by 
Onder Kelkia.
Pretty bold of you to accuse 
North East Somerset of openly violating the game rules. You're not supposed to have more than one nation in the WA. But NES has to be a WA member to be our delegate, and The cicero republic is also a WA member. I must thus conclude your cited dispatch is either false, or revealing serious misconduct by our leader. Given I have little reason to trust the words of outsiders any more than the monarch's, I must greet this with suspicion unless and until you can provide more meaningful proof that NES has violated the game rules.
Post by Khanter snipe region 04 suppressed by Onder Kelkia.
I have changed the dispatch to say that Somerset is a current suspect. All the others have been confirmed. This account, Khanter Snipe, was found in this region. Given the pattern that we have seen with his accounts, it is suspected that he is either Cicero or Vippertooth but we can not know for certain at this point. You will be updated when we can confirm or deny his involvement. A public statement from Somerset may convince us otherwise.
Our apologies for the disruption, but I also suspect that Cicero must be hiding in this region. Rather than condemning Somerset, this was more about getting Cicero’s attention to get him to come out of hiding.
I should perhaps note here that while I have no love for Antifa proper (the use of violence as a political coercion tool is never justified), I have even less for outright fascist organizations. I respect your right to hold your political views, even if those views declare that I or the people I love are un-persons, but I have zero tolerance for their application in actual life. You should know that fascism is entirely incompatible with the Christian way of life, a religion of peace, understanding, and most importantly, active positive engagement with sinners. “ 'Put your sword back in its place,' Jesus said to [Peter], 'for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.' ” (Matthew 26:52) But more importantly, "When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: 'Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?'
On hearing this, Jesus said to them, 'It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.' ” (Mark 2:15-16)
Any who bring darkness in the name of light and slaughter in the name of peace will find no welcome here.
Post by Khanter snipe region 04 suppressed by Onder Kelkia.
Aelyria How dare you accuse us of thinking that certain people are superior to others! All life is precious to God. I am about law and order. I have never participated in a riot or protest in my life. I believe in submitting myself to the State unless the State asks me to perform a task that violates my Christian conscience. Here is an article about why all your ideas about us are incorrect. You are now a suspect until further notice.
Time and again you have misrepresented us with lies, baselessly calling us trolls, Nazis, bigots, oppressors, racial supremacists, and antisemites when none of those statements are true. You pretend that we approve of the crimes of governments of the past, while hypocritically excusing and mitigating the atrocities of your Marxist heroes. We would have left you alone had you just kept your hate within your private circles, but you have stirred the bee’s nest and now the swarm of the entire hive has been unleashed. We are virtuous, we are steadfast, and our consciences our free from shame. Unlike you we do not need to lie and surpress information in order to justify our actions. Instead our actions are justifiable because they are correct.
Why We Are Not Antisemites
• The official stance of the TIC is that the holocaust was a real event and a great tradegy for humankind. You should also take into account that Christians (Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, and Jehovah’s Witnesses) were also persecuted by the Nazis.
• We do not turn away people for being Jewish or Zionist and we accept Jewish members that share our values. This is because we desire solidarity within nations. This is why we unapologetically have some Jews within our ranks.
• We are traditionalist and pious. Most of us practice Christian nationalism and reject Social Darwinism.
• Though many of us may hate some elements the Jewish faith, we do not deny them of their religious or spiritual rights, and we have nothing against the Jews as a race and heritage. In contrast we prefer Judaism to Athiesm as people as a whole become better citizens when they are bound by faith in the God of the Holy Bible.
• Our attacks against Globalism, Marxism, Postmodernism, and International Finance are not against Jews as it is unfair to blame an entire people for the sins of the few. There are many elite criminals in this world who are not Jewish and their are many Jews today who share our zeal to fight against corrupt institutions and their leaders.
Why We Are Not Racialists
• A large demographic of the TIC is made up of Catholic hispanics who have both an Iberian and a Native American ancestry. Though many of us our chauvinists for the West, we do not approve of acts of ethnic cleansing, slavery, or segregation.
• We reject Nordicism, Social Darwinism, Eugenics, Race Realism, and pan-European pluralism.
• We do not believe in pure races and reject Neopagan racial teachings.
Why We Are Not Bigots
• We are not politically correct. We love our freedom of speech.
• We are made up of people who possess a wide variety of beliefs, philosophies, and opinions.
• We are not afraid to converse with our enemies and show them where they are wrong.
• We hold everyone accountable to the same laws and freedoms, even those who practice things that we hate. Though we oppose gay marriage, gay adoption, and the entirety of LGBT culture, we do not wish for sexual dissidents to be criminally persecuted for what goes on in the privacy of their own homes. We believe that everyone should have the freedom to choose and that the state should not promote any revolutionary lifestyle that goes against the standards of the people.
We Share Some Similar Goals
• We both are tired of the current system and want radical change.
• We both recognize the evils of Capitalism and the pollution of the environment
• We both want to prevent the sexual exploitation of women, teenagers, and children.
• (If you are Socialist or Communist) We both understand that workers deserve to have their views reflected in policies related to their field or work. We also both recognize that the disadvantaged need financial and material support from the State.
This message has been issued to Ubertas, Czechoslovakia and zakarpatia, Marxlandia, Shamian, The Ripper33, Antifa, The Communist Bloc, MT2, Greatunion of soviet socialist republics, JJ Kale
As for you Shamian and Czechoslovakia and zakarpatia, the word “Racialism" is indeed a term. Actually it is more accurate to use that term rather than “Racist" since Racism can refer to any sort of discrimination, hateful or not, which is very distinct from those who actually believe in Social Darwinist, Racial views, which we both hate. Enjoy the links below and please think twice before you dismiss someone as being uneducated and reckless:
Hey! I want to be a suspect too.
I apologize to the realm at large for needing to quote such things, but directness and context are required to defray allegations that I have misconstrued or misquoted.
In the words of your own regional guide:
"The main argument against the Fascist State is its use of violence and suppression of ‘freedom of speech.’ It is unanimously believed that tolerance and freedom of expression are the ‘pillars’ of a civilized nation - that dissent and discontent somehow define acceptable normality. Fascism rejects such preposterous notions and enforces its doctrine, culture, laws, and customs throughout the Nation. Similar to O’Sullivan’s Law Fascism believes in action and intolerance in order to instill and uphold the moral and spiritual values of the people. Fascism is absolute; it is not interested in perpetual bickering and debate over elements harmful to Man."
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"Eternal Struggle:
“Let us have a dagger between our teeth, a bomb in our hands, and an infinite scorn in our hearts.”
- Benito Mussolini
In order to understand the fundamentals of Fascist philosophy, one must acknowledge that it views life not as an anomaly nor quest for peace; but a struggle; a righteous and determined struggle. Life is unfair; ruthless; merciless; and harsh - therefore Fascism aims to prepare the individual as soon as possible for the future obstacles and hardships he/she will endure. The Fascist State strengthens and trains her children for war on every level instead of sugarcoating and giving them petty assurances.
Life rewards those who prevail everyday and every second. Those who survive and even thrive from their deepest wounds earn relief, joy, and satisfaction from their internal/external battles. Every success and victory an individual achieves is felt in his attitude, his household, his neighborhood, his community, and so his State. Like a shockwave the conception of a national struggle is suddenly very alive and real; ripe for activity and action; ready to face anything the globe throws at it."
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"Fascism does not indulge itself in racial theories of supremacy and inferiority, rather, it merely recognizes the biological fact of racial diversity and leaves it at that. Fascism seeks to protect the national identity founded on spiritual elements, and uphold the integrity and safety of the nation. To this end, strict scrutiny of migrants, as well as expectations of cultural assimilation, will take place. In effect this will also maintain a majority-status for the original racial group, due to the importance cultural-identity has to individuals, and thus, due to many not willing to leave their culture behind to adopt a new one."
All of these doctrines are fundamentally incompatible with the Gospel. God is Love, we were very clearly told exactly what Love is (1st Corinthians 13). When Love came to live with us, he did not shun those of other beliefs, of weak morals or foreign lives. He respected them, broke bread with them, and lauded them--he saw great faith in the centurion, whose servant had died. He told us the last would be first, and the first would be last.
"He said:
'Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
'Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.' " (Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5:3-12, NIV)
There is nothing loving, meek, merciful, or peacemaker about this ideology. It exults conflict, it denies peace, it shuns mercy, it declares love should only be given to those who "deserve" it. You have slandered my name solely because I have spoken out against you, and called out how your own people's declared way deviates from the Word of God. I have nothing further to say to you; I know Who my Judge shall be. I welcome His verdict, for I have followed the commandments: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:37-40, NIV) And I have remembered that it was the Samaritan--the hated, mixed-of-two-cultures Samaritan--who was the wounded man's neighbor, not the high priest, nor the Levite, both of whom hewed to the ethnic and socio-behavioral purity of their people.
I am not Antifa. They use violence as a tool of political coercion, which is utterly unacceptable. But I am against fascism, because as your own regional guide says, they too use violence as a tool of political coercion. I oppose both unrestrained free market ("capitalism") and unrestrained command market ("communism") ideology: both have demonstrably failed to produce durable human happiness. I seek a just society because it is right, and because my God requires it of me, though it be as distant and difficult to see as the gates of Heaven. Your State does not turn the other cheek; it shoots to kill, to silence that which it does not deem worthy, that which interferes with its idealized (idolized?) "struggle."
Post by Khanter snipe region 05 suppressed by Onder Kelkia.
I was calling you out for saying I viewed people as being "un-persons". Also as I already mentioned I am against riots and violent protests. I do think violence is justified to protect others or to protect the solidarity of the nation (not tolerating people who divide the races, sexes, faiths). As for freedom of speech, you must take into context that the manifesto was referring to the liberalist definition of freedom where everything must be torn down and scrutinized. Additionally, you are nieve to think that all of us share the same views. Third Position politics and economics is a vast and deep subject. You have Integralism, Corporatism, Distributism, Monarcho-Fascism, and Communitarianism. We are not Nazis, stop pretending that we are.
Of course Mussolini’s war mongering was immoral, but not all war is bad or violent. We can be at war with our inner selves, we can be at war with ideas. I have not slandered you but you have slandered me. If I have slandered you then state what I have said that was slanderous. Otherwise stop lying.
You have accused me of committing crimes against your people, adding my name and flag to your "list of suspects." Prior to your post above, I knew nothing whatsoever of your region or anything within it. To call me a suspected traitor, spy, and saboteur is certainly defamatory.
I have not once called you, or anyone connected to you, a Nazi. I have quoted your own regional documents in defense of my position that your region accepts the use of violence on targets selected by the state for political reasons. Yes, I did allude to the idea that fascism has a long, long history of unpersoning people; you would do well to remember that Franco was also a fascist, who maintained power long after Italy and Germany fell, partly through such deeds. (See, for example, the White Terror: it was not an ethnic cleansing, but rather and ideological one, and I have friends from all sorts of political beliefs who would be subject to such drumhead courts and summary "justice." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain) ) I have not accused you personally of committing any particular crime. I have only noted that the ideology of the region you belong to is in direct conflict with the express directives of the man we both recognize as the Son of God. I have provided quotes from a readily accessible primer, provided by your regional government for the express purpose of explaining their ideology and values to a doubtful audience. None of the long quoted passages are my own words. Anything I did not cite came from that document, linked in your region's main descriptor page. A document which, notably, cites Mussolini multiple times as a proper (non-Nazi) fascist worthy of listening to.
Greetings!
As you have been granted citizenship on our forums, you can access our laws at: http://balder.boards.net/board/24/laws-balder. In terms of constitutional rules, you may be particularly interested in the Representation for the Realm Act and the Instrument of State and Government Act.
Looking for endorsers and allies for my New North Korea. Message me if interested
Sorry for being afk, never had time to get on ;-;
Heh. Antifa is simply a self-defense organization that mobilizes against white racist/misogynist/homophobic violence.
As someone who lives in a city where clashes between alt-right types and Antifa have been a disturbing problem? No, they are not merely a "self-defense" organization. They *have* attacked defenseless people. And they have also been attacked. The use of violence as a tool of political coercion or control is unacceptable, full stop.
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