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*receives issue about Taxes being too high*
*is ranked in the top 4% for highest freedom from taxation*
*is also ranked in the 98% for taxation*
Well... *heavy sigh*
*cuts taxes more*

Genovia-karlsruhe wrote:Member States,

Our government would like to formally put our name forward for the vacant position of Minister of Culture.

Sen. Susanne Landolt
Federal Minister of Foreign Affairs and Internation Development

Best wishes with that!

Genovia-karlsruhe

Bad wolfe wrote:*receives issue about Taxes being too high*
*is ranked in the top 4% for highest freedom from taxation*
*is also ranked in the 98% for taxation*
Well... *heavy sigh*
*cuts taxes more*

Well you are taxing 4% for people whose annual income is 3 months' rent and $33k off the other end of the spectrum. I can't see either end enjoying that very much.

Genovia-karlsruhe wrote:Member States,

Our government would like to formally put our name forward for the vacant position of Minister of Culture.

Sen. Susanne Landolt
Federal Minister of Foreign Affairs and Internation Development

Are we having an election?

Arduria wrote:Are we having an election?

Would it matter? Check some of the members our current government, and see how long it has been since any of them have logged in.
Balder has been without government for quite some time now. Just absentee landlords who pop up for a couple days when someone notices, then vanish again for six months.

Johann schmidt

THX1138 wrote:Would it matter? Check some of the members our current government, and see how long it has been since any of them have logged in.
Balder has been without government for quite some time now. Just absentee landlords who pop up for a couple days when someone notices, then vanish again for six months.

The government mainly does its work on the offsite forums & discord server. It would be nice for them to spend a bit more time in the region proper however :)

THX1138 wrote:Would it matter? Check some of the members our current government, and see how long it has been since any of them have logged in.
Balder has been without government for quite some time now. Just absentee landlords who pop up for a couple days when someone notices, then vanish again for six months.

It's been explained many times to you how things work. If you want to continue being ignorant of the fact that's your business but please don't lie to people because things aren't the way you want them to be.

THX1138 wrote:Would it matter? Check some of the members our current government, and see how long it has been since any of them have logged in.
Balder has been without government for quite some time now. Just absentee landlords who pop up for a couple days when someone notices, then vanish again for six months.

What do we need a government for exactly ?

The new nations that will die soon

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quirrain gonna launch a space agency in the coming weeks

Solorni wrote:The government mainly does its work on the offsite forums & discord server. It would be nice for them to spend a bit more time in the region proper however :)

This is a discussion that many regions have. There are many people who say that if it doesn't happen here, it is irrelevant. There are others who feel that regional activity on anywhere is good. I personally believe that activity should be spread across all regional platforms....as long as it isn't IRC.

Post by Johann schmidt suppressed by Solorni.

Johann schmidt

THX1138 wrote:Would it matter? Check some of the members our current government, and see how long it has been since any of them have logged in.
Balder has been without government for quite some time now. Just absentee landlords who pop up for a couple days when someone notices, then vanish again for six months.

Let's see...our Delegate was the President of Europeia for starters. The rest are her cronies that she imported here from across NationStates, many with regions of their own or their major activity elsewhere. The forum is their private clubhouse.

I'm going to say no to Nazis being in Balder personally.

Badger wrote:This is a discussion that many regions have. There are many people who say that if it doesn't happen here, it is irrelevant. There are others who feel that regional activity on anywhere is good. I personally believe that activity should be spread across all regional platforms....as long as it isn't IRC.

Yeah, I agree. All platforms can complement each other other.

Alvalero wrote:It's been explained many times to you how things work. If you want to continue being ignorant of the fact that's your business but please don't lie to people because things aren't the way you want them to be.

Not necessarily about 'me' at all. I'm fairly sure that most governing bodies in any political situation in the world, actually spend at least a bit of their time in the actual jurisdiction that they represent, but keep selling yourself this idea that off-shored leadership in absentia is perfectly normal

That's not a really good analogy, in my opinion.
Forums are better in almost every conceivable way for organization, and using chatting apps like discord and skype (blegh) are very convenient, although I do tend to neglect the RMB too much in favor of them.
Having the government function off-site *is* perfectly normal in NS, but I have a feeling we're going to have to agree to disagree.

THX1138 wrote:Not necessarily about 'me' at all. I'm fairly sure that most governing bodies in any political situation in the world, actually spend at least a bit of their time in the actual jurisdiction that they represent, but keep selling yourself this idea that off-shored leadership in absentia is perfectly normal

Again, this shows just how ignorant you are of how things work on NS. This is not the real world. How things are done here is perfectly normal. You're trying to sell the exception, not the norm. Most activity is conducted on the forum and discord which is our jurisdiction(in case you're under any delusion that it isn't) and which is the case for the vast majority of regions with a government. But keep selling yourself the idea that the RMB is the be all and end all for a region, because you know, hundreds of instant messages between people on discord and the 125K+ forums posts are a far inferior metric to judge activity and involvement than the RMB.

And again as I do every time you bring it up I invite you to actually get involved instead of using baseless complaints or leave if it bothers you so much that people use the superior methods for communication that are available to them. It is really that simple.

Why wouldn't people use Discord/forums instead of the RMB? Regional government in NS is a joke--you basically have no powers other than kicking people out of the club. At least Discord and forums give you some ability to organize things the way you want.

Wherever there are people out of the loop, there will be those who want the loop to move to them instead of vice versa.

Merry Christmas all, from New Zealand. And Happy Holidays!

The wings of morelia

I love your flag Alvalero !

Merry Christmas! ^_^

The wings of morelia and Badger

merry christmas

Socialist states of kalmar

Christmas Comes Again

Alsatian island

Socialist states of kalmar wrote:Christmas Comes Again

Indeed.

I genuinely don't care if you all discuss regional matters over coffee, in Iceland, or, on a conference call on your cells on a Thursday night. My 'ignorant' point was that many in our current gov't haven't actually logged into NS in 30, 40, 50 days.
Say whatever you want about how those fingers are all still, somehow, on the pulse of the region, but I don't buy it
If you're not spending at least a portion of your time here, engaging in Balder directly, in-game (and more importantly, with the people in Balder) then you're not really engaging in Nation States, are you?
As it happens, I manage a sizeable guild in another online game. We have an active discord server, but if a player isn't actually coming into the game, proper, they are removed for inactivity.I'd say that's a far more 'normal' practice in the virtual world than whatever you've got going on here.

Bad wolfe

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