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I answered with wishful thinking, what I'd like Christmas to be.

The meows wrote:I answered with wishful thinking, what I'd like Christmas to be.

That's very noble wish, The Meows.

Welcome to {115, Chiron9!

Post by Die daily suppressed by a moderator.

Post self-deleted by Sunrise from the Sea.

Capital letters appear in the middle of words for no reason. Once upon a time such a post would have earned a stern rebuke, but NationStates has 'liberalised'. I liked it when you could only recruit in certain of the Pacifics.

Techno-titania

I didn't know you can recruit outside feeders.

And I will have you know my suit is not chintzy. :p

Post self-deleted by Dr george.

Visiting queendom of myself

Wolfgang von death wrote:A Christmas greeting from the people of Wolfgang von Death.

Greetings my fellow nations.

Any Messiah with a shred of personal integrity would be mortified if a blatantly deceptive and sensationalistic commotion such as Christmas occurred on their behalf.
Imagine the utter humiliation of having the sum-total of your celestial wisdom perverted into the form of a creepy,bloated old man in a chintzy,fur-trimmed red velvet outfit who-apart from being a major share holder in Chinese toy factories- is unquestioningly accepted as the world's leading expert on child surveillance.
Therefore,on behalf of grossly misrepresented deities everywhere,I wish you the sincerity to reassure every child that they're NOT being watched by a completely undetectable,omnipresent gaudily dressed geezer and that NO list regarding their worthiness to receive lead painted novelties is being compiled.

Lumps of coal will available for delivery shortly!
Warm wishes from the people of Wolfgang von Death.

Of course they're not being watched by a geezer. They're being watched by the NSA. I suppose discriminating against geezers could be a policy problem for the NSA, though.

Sunrise from the Sea wrote:Capital letters appear in the middle of words for no reason. Once upon a time such a post would have earned a stern rebuke, but NationStates has 'liberalised'. I liked it when you could only recruit in certain of the Pacifics.

You're not supposed to unless the UCR has the tag "Recruiter-friendly." I just banned the spammer and was going to suppress the post, but a Mod beat me to the punch (which is fine by ,e).

Since we recently had Trout Fishing, I won't rerun the rankings.

Welcome to P115, The enchanted island!

Scary mary the hairy fairy

Christmas is:...... not complete without a fairy on top of the tree.

*sits atop of a slightly scary christmas tree and begins flashing*

Ummm, one doesn't usually have THAT kind of flashing happening on Christmas trees.

*puts up modesty screen so we can retain our PG-13 rating*

New seldon wrote:*snip*

Very interesting, thank you :)

I was reading about a news story today ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30591166 ) which got me thinking about law, and then I stumbled on the ideas of the freemen on the land ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land ) / sovereign citizen movement ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement ). However I am not finding a good answer to the following question anywhere:

On what basis do laws obtain their authority over individuals?

You might answer 'by the consent of the governed', in which case, why aren't the 'freemen' allowed to renounce their participation in society and go into exile? In Brave New World by Aldous Huxley,

the protagonist is offered the opportunity to live outside of the rules that apply to all other members of that dystopian society
. On what basis is it assumed that everyone in society consented to being governed?

I know it's Christmas but I had to ask :P

Techno-titania

On what basis do laws obtain their authority over individuals?

Guns.

Techno-titania

Much of Christianity is stolen from pagans. But isn't that what religions do?

Post self-deleted by Dr george.

A way of restating "by the consent of the governed" is that government successfully (more or less) works for its citizens and residents in a way that Anarchy does not in providing infrastructure, education, police and military protection, a social safety net, and the rest. Even should one renounce citizenship and become only a resident, one still enjoys the benefits of the government and thus owes the devil his due. Only by renouncing his citizenship in a foreign exile might one be free of present and future obligations to the national government. Even then, one must settle past debts, taxes, and other obligations made while a citizen or resident here.

RIP, Raziq nation.

Techno-titania wrote:On what basis do laws obtain their authority over individuals?

Guns.

I like how Mao said it: "Every Communist must grasp the truth: Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."

We bring peppermint cocoa and warm muffins. Enjoy!

The queendom of myself wrote:We bring peppermint cocoa and warm muffins. Enjoy!

uh ... what's in these?

He slunk to the icebox. He took the Whos' feast!
He took the Who-pudding! He took the roast beast!
He cleaned out that icebox as quick as a flash.
Why, that Grinch even took their last can of Who-hash!
Then he stuffed all the food up the chimney with glee.
"And NOW!" grinned the Grinch, "I will stuff up the tree!"

Wolfgang von death

Kinda long but seems fitting.

'Twas The Night Before Christmas

'Twas the nocturnal segment of the diurnal period preceding the
annual Yuletide celebration, and throughout our place of residence,
kinetic activity was not in evidence among the possessors of this
potential, including that species of domestic rodent known as Mus
musculus. Hosiery was meticulously suspended from the forward edge of the
wood burning caloric apparatus, pursuant to our anticipatory pleasure
regarding an imminent visitation from an eccentric philanthropist among
whose folkloric appellations is the honorific title of St. Nicholas.

The prepubescent siblings, comfortably ensconced in their respective
accommodations of repose, were experiencing subconscious visual
hallucinations of variegated fruit confections moving rhythmically through
their cerebrums. My conjugal partner and I, attired in our nocturnal head
coverings, were about to take slumberous advantage of the hibernal darkness
when upon the avenaceous exterior portion of the grounds there ascended
such a cacophony of dissonance that I felt compelled to arise with alacrity
from my place of repose for the purpose of ascertaining the precise source
thereof.

Hastening to the casement, I forthwith opened the barriers sealing
this fenestration, noting thereupon that the lunar brilliance
without, reflected as it was on the surface of a recent crystalline
precipitation, might be said to rival that of the solar meridian
itself - thus permitting my incredulous optical sensory organs to
behold a miniature airborne runnered conveyance drawn by eight
diminutive specimens of the genus Rangifer, piloted by a minuscule,
aged chauffeur so ebullient and nimble that it became instantly
apparent to me that he was indeed our anticipated caller. With his
ungulate motive power travelling at what may possibly have been more
vertiginous velocity than patriotic alar predators, he vociferated
loudly, expelled breath musically through contracted labia, and
addressed each of the octet by his or her respective cognomen - "Now
Dasher, now Dancer..." et al. - guiding them to the uppermost exterior
level of our abode, through which structure I could readily distinguish the
concatenations of each of the 32 cloven pedal extremities.

As I retracted my cranium from its erstwhile location, and was performing a
180-degree pivot, our distinguished visitant achieved - with utmost
celerity and via a downward leap - entry by way of the smoke passage. He
was clad entirely in animal pelts soiled by the ebony residue from
oxidations of carboniferous fuels which had accumulated on the walls
thereof. His resemblance to a street vendor I attributed largely to the
plethora of assorted playthings which he bore dorsally in a commodious
cloth receptacle.

His orbs were scintillant with reflected luminosity, while his submaxillary
dermal indentations gave every evidence of engaging amiability. The
capillaries of his malar regions and nasal appurtenance were engorged with
blood which suffused the subcutaneous layers, the former approximating the
coloration of Albion's floral emblem, the latter that of the Prunus avium,
or sweet cherry. His amusing sub- and supralabials resembled nothing so
much as a common loop knot, and their ambient hirsute facial adornment
appeared like small, tabular and columnar crystals of frozen water.

Clenched firmly between his incisors was a smoking piece whose grey
fumes, forming a tenuous ellipse about his occiput, were suggestive
of a decorative seasonal circlet of holly. His visage was wider than it was
high, and when he waxed audibly mirthful, his corpulent abdominal region
undulated in the manner of impectinated fruit syrup in a hemispherical
container. He was, in short, neither more nor less than an obese, jocund,
multigenarian gnome, the optical perception of whom rendered me visibly
frolicsome despite every effort to refrain from so being. By rapidly
lowering and then elevating one eyelid and rotating his head slightly to
one side, he indicated that trepidation on my part was groundless.

Without utterance and with dispatch, he commenced filling the
aforementioned appended hosiery with various of the aforementioned
articles of merchandise extracted from his aforementioned previously
dorsally transported cloth receptacle. Upon completion of this task,
he executed an abrupt about-face, placed a single manual digit in
lateral juxtaposition to his olfactory organ, inclined his cranium
forward in a gesture of leave-taking, and forthwith effected his
egress by renegotiating (in reverse) the smoke passage. He then
propelled himself in a short vector onto his conveyance, directed a
musical expulsion of air through his contracted oral sphincter to the
antlered quadrupeds of burden, and proceeded to soar aloft in a
movement hitherto observable chiefly among the seed-bearing portions
of a common weed. But I overheard his parting exclamation, audible
immediately prior to his vehiculation beyond the limits of
visibility: "Ecstatic Yuletide to the planetary constituency, and to
that self same assemblage, my sincerest wishes for a salubriously
beneficial and gratifyingly pleasurable period between sunset and
dawn."

Visiting queendom of myself

Skepticism wrote:uh ... what's in these?

Knowing my sister? There's peppermint and cocoa in the peppermint cocoa, and hallucinogens in the muffins. Witness the two preceding posts.

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