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The niceties of normal moral constraints wrote:

Yeah, that's the thing. Cooked chickpeas are something like 60% water by mass, so you're either putting a ton of water in, or taking a ton out. Even without chickpeas, I managed to reduce the tomato sauce too much, and ended up slightly undercooking the lasagna sheets. Was still plenty edible, but had the distinct starchy not-enough-water taste.

Yeah thats a pain, especially with an electric oven. Have you tried covering the dish until the last 10 15 mins in the oven and/or having a small baking tin half filled with water in the oven at the same time?

Lake of fur wrote:

All of these go onto the Bar's juke-box. Every time a song or group in mentioned in a region where I can see it, I throw them onto the playlist.

While we're at it,

Basically, an exquisite corpse is a poetry exercise where one poet writes a verse, and another poet writes the next one. It gets passed further along, but each subsequent poet is only given the last verse. It's basically a poetry amalgamation. Then, the original poet takes all the verses, reads them out, and concludes it. It was later adapted into a drawing game, and there's also a short movie that was made by four directors this way.

Canaltia wrote:

While we're at it,

Watsky - Exquisite Corpse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI50C7EPTfc

It's a pretty fun song, a better story, and an even better concept.

Basically, an exquisite corpse is a poetry exercise where one poet writes a verse, and another poet writes the next one. It gets passed further along, but each subsequent poet is only given the last verse. It's basically a poetry amalgamation. Then, the original poet takes all the verses, reads them out, and concludes it. It was later adapted into a drawing game, and there's also a short movie that was made by four directors this way.

Some of the scenes in the video remind me of Arcimboldo's art.

So even though Macedon hasn't done anything for years, we need to condemn them again?

Lake of fur wrote:

I've heard Moracchioli's stuff before and love his playful style. His cover of Never Gonna Give You Up makes the song listenable.

Never Gonna Give You Up

Leo Moracchioli - Never Gonna Give You Up

^{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Z5q152GSQ}

I like all kinds of music and when genres cross over, the results are always interesting-

Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gormé - Black Hole Sun

Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gormé - Black Hole Sun

^{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnfJ6eB0duM}

Never Gonna Give You Up made me smile. Following that version of Black Hole Sun (you can also find Norah Jones doing it), here are my favourite downbeat covers of loud songs.

And in a slightly different vein

Areulder wrote:

Hunting

Hunting provides governments with a lot of revenue(the US for example makes $1.65 billion from permits and licencing) Because this revenue is dependent on sustaining the population of the animals being hunted governments are incentivised to manage wildlife responsibly, protect and restore their habitats and protect wildlife from poachers. That's not counting the billion spent on guides, reserves and equipment, which produces entire industries with a vested interest in conservation, or the multitude of conservation organisations funded by hunters, who after all also have a vested interest in their protection.

Examples of success can be seen in the Cape buffalo, whitetail deer, wild turkey, bighorn sheep and the southern white rhino.

Canaltia wrote:

Hunting

That's a pretty valid point. In addition, I know people who are hunters (like 5% of western Canadians hunt regularly), and they are some of the most eco-friendly people I know. By getting out there and hunting (for food, I might add. Deer meat it actually pretty good), they develop an understanding and appreciation of nature, and them killing one deer a month max isn't going to do too much to the environment. Also, there's all of the legalities surrounding hunting in a country without constitutionally protected gun rights, so people who want to kill for the sake of it usually aren't able to get a hunting permit.

However, in Canada, endangered species are not allowed to be hunted, as the massive tourism industry in the Rockies is enough incentive to keep them alive. There's also the fact that 10.5% of Canada's land is protected, bringing more restrictions on hunting with it. These areas have a lot of endangered species living on them (especially the Manitoba wetlands), so it's often more trouble than it's worth to try to hunt there. On top of that, 88% of Canada is inhabitable by people, so there should be enough room for hunters and endangered species to coexist.

Canada's biggest problem is, ironically, the other 95% who aren't hunters, as they are the ones polluting the environment, cutting down the unprotected forests, and mining the north with unsustainable business practice. I think Canada needs more restrictions on corporate en devours in the wilderness, but we have the right amount of restriction on hunters. I've thought about picking it up, but I just don't have the time or resources.

Well, I'd certainly agree that things would be better if those who spend time out in the wilderness had more say in how things were run. And I'm never going to agree with Areulder about the potential for free market incentives to bring about good outcomes, so I'll pass over that. I would point out that hunting is unlike predation by any other species because whereas other species take the weakest specimens human hunters tend to want the prime ones.

I think there might be an element of cultural difference here, as illustrated by this minor international misunderstanding:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-45967845

I guess hunting in Canada and the US is also more of a democratic activity and lacks the association with the aristocracy it retains in Britain. The ban here on hunting foxes with hounds was absolute class war by proxy, a consolation prize thrown by the centrist Blair government to its voters on the left. Hunting for food and ecological management is a complicated question (though if it was up to me I'd control Scottish deer populations by reintroducing wolves, no doubt causing farmers and crofters to come after me with torches and pitchforks and thereby demonstrating the extent to which agri-business now dictates environmental policy). I confess I struggle to understand the mindset whose response to a magnificent animal is to want to shoot it.

Caracasus wrote:

I know this makes me a terrible person but with some exceptions (like it's badly written, has no content, is an obvious self commend or a blatant hack piece) I tend to vote for condemnations and commendations because I like the idea of more shiny badges.

That's exactly my policy too. ^^

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Drasnia wrote:

So even though Macedon hasn't done anything for years, we need to condemn them again?

It's a repeal and replace effort, with the replacement first to make sure they'll still have a badge at the end of it.

Sapnu puas wrote:

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The CARDS ARE BACK in town (cards are back in town)!

So ready for them to be back, I'm gonna go on a collector's frenzy.

(Even though my collection is already pretty good)

Uan aa Boa wrote:

Never Gonna Give You Up made me smile. Following that version of Black Hole Sun (you can also find Norah Jones doing it), here are my favourite downbeat covers of loud songs.

Van Halen's Jump by Aztec Camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COtZZmWKcRI

Guns n Roses' Sweet Child of Mine by Taken by Trees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dqVDQ-lF4Q

Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit by Tori Amos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YkdnrM3aw

And in a slightly different vein

Carly Rae Jepson's Call me Maybe by Ben Howard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPU8V-nvUEk

All added to the juke-box.

Excellent requests, thank you.

Sapnu puas wrote:

Caracasus, I didn't know you were an Issues Editor!

I'd wager that at least 2/3 of all issue editors have their main nation or a puppet here in Forest.

Sorry for the lack of posting on many important topics, I have an interview in a couple of hours for a clinical pharmacist position at a local hospital and I've been focusing on preparing for that.

Happy Wednesday Forest!