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So, I've actually got an idea for a new RP if you goys are interested
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I call my idea "Operation Unthinkable: The Final War"
The mass RP would be set in the same RP map created by Balticia, only a dystopian 1960s style future (Conventional warfare only)
Lore of the RP would be that after decades of using nuclear energy and pure consumerism, the world is left starved of resources. All of the world's nation's broke out into Skirmishes with each other, competing over the last resources rich land masses in the world, eventually unleashing nuclear devastation on each other by spamming atomic weapons, however, do to this being a 1960s tech level future, atomic weapons were underpowered and unable to successfully destroy entire nation's, only rendering small patches, certain cities and quarter of land masses uninhabitable, or highly iradiated, as with the rest of the radiation spreading with wine and water sources and such you get the idea.
Left with only conventional weapons, few resources and even fewer option, form alliances, wage conflicts and compete for resources in the dystopian 1960s-1970s style RP
Hmmmmmm dystopian world, underpowered nukes. Hmmmmmmm I think this is a very good idea
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No, I get that perfectly. But the IAT and other Thalasi institutions are going to play hardball with you until they feel you are trustworthy.
OOC: Not sure how Mercer is going to feel since the IAT just turned down the chance to take down Valinski. Also like I said, your agencies going after him themselves if a bad idea.
I mean with approval ratings of your current Goverment sinking and all.
IC: Director Kirn after viewing the email brushed it off rather then form a reply. " Well the Thalasians are to stubborn, we'll just have to grab Valenski our self." thought the director to him self. "I want the search narrowed down to one safe house" ordered the Director to all his agents in Thalasus.
155mm......Why yes I do want the rebirthed King Tiger to have excessive fire power. Mainly for the physiological effect of a hositle force to be like "Holy sht this thing is a monster run for your lives" kinda thing. but also the massive boom. But why stop at 155mm why not have the King Tiger mk2 have an 200mm gun?
An idea, is this possible? Or would it be so excessive that it being put into actual use would be to much of a hassle.
But if it's not possible then I'll settle for 155mm
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So there’s a contest where you have to make an alternate WW2 scenario
And you can win $15 itune gift card. I really want this gift cause my family still doesn’t have a credit card so we have no way of buying anything in the App Store
So can somebody please help me with an alternate scenario for WW2
155mm is really pushing it, because for starters you'd have to impose strict requirements for human loaders because they'd have to be quite beefy to man handle the shells into the breach, but short enough to fit into the tank. Auto loaders would be unfeasible because the weight of the shell would be too much to keep the auto loader in action without frequent repairs (which would be disastrous in field combat)
Not to mention the projectile size would be too great to have good enough penitrating power to rip through targets the German 88 sliced through with ease.
These problems only get worse with a 200mm, as the rounds become so big that the vehicle can only carry a very limited ammount, and auto loaders are out of the question because the shells are simply too heavy, and human loaders would struggle to get more than two rounds at the most out of the rack and into the breach before getting fatigued, which would grind vehicle efficiency in the field to a slow crawl (also disastrous)
Not to mention you'd need a very long barrel (at 200mm would be far too heavy and would only serve to slow the vehicle down, or even tip it over in some cases) to even get the shell up to a high enough speed to maintain a solid flight, but it probably wouldn't because it'd be too low velocity.
Not to mention the sheer sound of a 200mm firing in an enclosed space would 100% deafen the loader, and probably the gunner. Did I mention the engine strength you'd need to even rotate a turret packing so much tonnage?
Excellent points. I'd also point out that the tank is no longer the king of the battlefield - it has a heavy psychological impact at first, but since ATGMs are issued even at the fireteam level, the increased access to air support infantry have at their disposal, and perhaps most crucially the advent of the helicopter gunship, the tank really needs support in order not to be taken apart - it can't operate in tank-only wolfpacks like it did in WWII.
Remember that you don't need even need a K-kill - a mobility or even firepower kill is generally sufficient to get the crew to abandon the tank, because either situation means it can't serve its proper role anymore, and especially if you're in a fighting retreat like Germany was for the last 2-ish-years of the war, a mobility kill means that tank is as good as dead. And an over-engineered hulk like the Tiger II saw 40-50% of the quantity produced taken out because its transmission or suspension failed, rather than any actual enemy action (which is still better than the Tiger or even Panther, which saw more like 50-60%). Still - the first 5 Tiger IIs made never even saw combat. They broke down and were destroyed to prevent their capture. That's kind of indicative.
Not to mention a tank of that size and weight would be knocked out if a road wheel cracked, given it would need special equipent to lift and repair, so field repairs are pretty much impossible.
Combined with the fact that the vehicle would be too heavy to cross most bridges, or even drive across soft ground or muddy/snowy/swamp areas because it would most definitely get stuck.
I’d be happy to help! Here are some prompts that can serve as jumping off points for you, ones that differ from the typical WWII alternate-history tropes (full American isolationism, Nazi/USSR alliance, Nazis with Nukes, etc.):
-In late 1941, the USS Enterprise and other American aircraft carriers don’t get caught in poor weather, and arrive at their base on time instead of being delayed like IRL. Their base? Pearl Harbor, before the Japanese surprise attack. The carriers are destroyed along with the battleships, seriously crippling American capabilities in the Pacific and possibly even allowing for a Japanese invasion of the Hawaiian islands and/or California.
-Alan Turing gets outed as a homosexual before finishing his work on the Ultra project and gets demoted/fired/arrested/chemically castrated to suicide. As a result, the Allies never manage to crack the Nazi Enigma code. Britain suffers as relief ships from the Royal Navy and the Americans continue to get torn apart in the Atlantic, and the end of the war is pushed back by years as the naval efforts of the Allied forces in Europe are stymied at every turn.
-The Nazis find an ally in Hindu nationalists in British India. Having been radicalized after the death of Mahatma Ghandi in a British prison during one of his hunger strikes in the 1930’s, the Indian independence movement becomes a religious one as well and launches a guerrilla warfare campaign against the British Empire in Asia. This was done at Hitler’s behest, in exchange for Nazi Germany guaranteeing the independence of a new Hindu Indian state while they fought the British in Europe (as well as a promise of protection from the looming threat of invasion from Germany’s ally in Japan). A new front in the war, the Indian Front, opens up as the British (plus Indian Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hindus loyal to the Crown, and later the French and Americans) must fight back rebel forces to keep Britain from being cut off from her empire.
-Hitler does Operation Barbarossa before going to war in Western Europe. Terrified by the idea of a new Great War, the UK and France shirk their treaty responsibilities in defending Poland when the USSR and the Nazis invade, instead choosing diplomatic isolation and harsher trade sanctions. Adolf Hitler pulls the greatest ruse de guerre in history: through propaganda and a sophisticated intelligence operation, he convinces the world that he is planning on invading France (causing an arms build up and a full-on panic in Belgium), but instead does a complete 180° turn and launches an all-out assault on the USSR, which he recognizes as Germany’s real existential threat. France, Britain, and the United States all leave Germany and the Soviets alone to duke it out or join in, perhaps even on Hitler’s side. At least until Pearl Harbor, maybe.
-The French and British start WWII. Perhaps encouraged by an AU where they didn’t lose as many men or didn’t suffer as much in the Great War, Neville Chamberlain’s Britain and the French Third Republic preemptively bomb, blockade, and/or invade Germany after they break international law during their rearmament. Hitler is forced to fight a Franco-British alliance in the 1930’s as his nation ramps up for an even bigger war in their future.
-Instead of the United States, German physicists (such as Albert Einstein) and other scientists from flee to the USSR and inform Stalin of the potential of a nuclear weapon. The Red Army gets the first nuclear weapon, using it on a German city on the Eastern Front and changing the whole layout of the end of WWII and the start of the Cold War.
-Japan never launches any surprise assault on the United States, instead choosing to focus on invading British, French, and Chinese territory. The US never joins the war, or joins later for different reasons and with a much stronger fleet to start with from the undamaged Pearl Harbor base.
-Mussolini remains a schoolteacher, never coming to power in Italy. When the war starts, Italy joins on the side of the Allies, in the vein of France or Greece. The Pope must negotiate with Hitler instead of an Italian dictator, causing some Catholic kerfuffles. The Allies have a much easier time in the Mediterranean, however.
Let me know what you think or if you need any other ideas!
So do I get a King Tiger Mk2 or not
Cause I want a Tank that have the amount of fire power like the KT did in it's time along with its heavy armor, but a Tank that would match that to today's standards. For this to be fair I'm only going to have a very limited amount of these mechanical monsters though.
Basically something that would make a M1 Abrams crew scared.
Considering I use the Abrams (Hello, I'm America) anything faster, I'll leave you to decide what that means
I mean, in the modern day, I'd call that an AC-130.
There's just a limited degree to which you can upgun and up-armor a tank before it becomes mechanically unreliable.
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