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I like that idea, PDHTN. To add to it somewhat (unless this is what you mean already) we could put a UFP home world in our solar system. That way we can all have sovereign territory on that world's map and keep the 3D map too.

I think we'll be able to gauge relative nation size once we have a more filled in map so I wouldn't worry too much about it now. As far as my location goes, if none object, I'd like that largest peninsula at the west coast of the eastern landmass. If possible I'd also like my color to be a deep purple. Not lavender, but the dark, regal purple. I'm not married to either idea though. Whatever works best for the whole is fine by me.

I would like the left continent on the very left of the map. I would like it to be blue please.

Federative territories

Could I please have the island in the middle of the ocean, and coloured maroon :) Thanks! :D

@Estononia: I think I know what you were talking about and I've put you on the map. I got as close to a dark purple as I could while still making your nation visible. As your population grows, your nation will expand eastward to the left side of the map.

@Aksun: Are you talking about that landmass north of the huge continent?

@Federative Territories: If you're talking about the island that I think you're talking about, I've already taken it for PDHTN. There is, however, a slightly smaller island to the east and a bit to the north. I could certainly give you that island and some of the nearby continent.

Here is the map as it is now: http://morate.net/ufop_map_current.png
And here's how I work out the nation growth. The map is divided up into a whole bunch of tiles. (Only I can see them.)
18 tiles for existing
+3 tiles for first 1 mil population
+3 tiles for first 10 mil population
+3 tiles for first 100 mil population
+3 tiles for first 1 bil population
+3 tiles for each .5 bil population after that
You guys will have to come ask me to increase your nation size when your population increases because I can't keep track of all of that. If it turns out that the nations are all too small, I may increase that to 24 to start with and +4 each time.

@Disco Empire: Would you like a spot on the map?

@PDHTN: Could you just pick a spot for me, in bright pink or whatever color looks best next to the other regions? My internet is actually fast today (33.2 Kbps!) and I can't get it. Once the map is done, I'll get it at the library.

On the space map: I was planning to make separate solar systems for each nations, and putting puppets together with the main region, but I can make it a solar system instead if that's more interesting.

I have ran into something tricky, though. Normally, stars are much larger than planets. It wouldn't be practical to make them to proper scale, but it still seems right to make them larger than the planet.

However, if we use population to determine planet size, it gets interesting. The largest region is Fenure, Pop: 22,155 Mil, and the smallest is Gnori, Pop: 91 Mil. I'm planning to make the diameter of the planet based on population. That would be simple, and show up well. Surface area or volume would works too, but I think it would be confusing.

If we base star size to make it larger than the largest planet, Fenure with a diameter or 2.2 arbitary units (in., cm., furlongs, whatever) we are going to have a map full of huge stars that completely dwarf the planets. We are probably going to want the headquarters planet larger then Fenure anyway, although it make put it into gas giant territory.

Anyway, TLDR: Is it going to bother you guys if stars are smaller than planets?

Should the star's size or color be symbolic of anything. It might be nice, although unrealistic to make them the map color.

This is what I have done so far:

http://img.ie/fb8oe.jpg

Yes, the planets are outside the universe. :) It's easier to move them in later. I can still shrink everything down, too, if it is too large.

You can see what I mean about the size difference in planets. The smaller planets are there, they don't show up very well.

Let me know if I made any mistakes, or if I didn't put your puppet in your system.

http://morate.net/ufop_map_current.png

There is an island out in the middle of the water. There is a landmass to the very left of that. It looks like it is half a landmass. It hugs the left border of the map.

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Is possible, can I please have the area shown in maroon with my flag placed :)

http://i58.tinypic.com/30saasg.jpg

Sorry, Aksun, but is it possible for you to draw a circle around the land you want or something?

How do I do that?

@ PDHTN- The map's looking good. Not to be high maintenance, but that location isn't what I had in mind. I was hoping for the territory jetting out into the ocean, directly north of Fed's spot on the following iteration: http://i58.tinypic.com/30saasg.jpg

Also, could you place my coat of arms (the shield I use for a flag) on the map? Thank you for all the work you're putting into this.

@ Disco- Yours is looking great too. I think these maps will be a boon for the region. They add a measure of actuality.

The UFP should be a sun & our nations should be planets orbiting it.

Thanks, Estononia!

Does any one else have opinions on whether there should be one or many solar systems on the map? It's still easy to change now. :)

@Trek- I like that idea. Sounds like it could provide method to madness.

@Disco- If it's not too much of a pain, would you do a quick mockup? I'm having a hard time envisioning a multi solar system would look like.

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If you saw my last message, I deleted it because its no long relevant. It will need to be one solar system. The plan I had before was going to be neat, with the location of the stars indicating economics, political freedom, and civil rights. It would have looked great, except that are regions are too similar, and everything is squashed together.

I will try this with planets too, but if that's too messy, I'll just make it look nice.

I've got something together for the map.

http://img.ie/ktjj5.png

I can still make changes to this. The smallest planets are circled. Positions of the planets were determined by economics, political freedom, and civil rights, but it got too messy and too useless to leave that information on the map. Still, I think it looks more interesting than just putting them at random locations.

@Disco- Nicely done.

I'm really quite happy with the map idea. I haven't seen the region this active in a good while, and none of the discussion is focused on raiding nonsense. It's a refreshing change.

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Does anyone remember the browser game based on Ogame called Space4k? :)

Sorry about being gone for a little bit. I promise I'll be more active next week. :)

@PDHTN- Don't worry about it. Activity tends to ebb and flow depending on the time of year. What with schools and businesses cramming before the summer slowdown, I'm surprised any of us have time to do much more than check in.

@Fed- I'm afraid I don't. Any particular reason you're asking? The smiley face has me curious.

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I was just curious. It was a game that was around about 8 years ago, but has since been closed down.

Hi everyone!

Aksun, Estononia, and myself having been discussing the idea of a Bill of Rights for the United Federation of Planets. We think it would be good for the region, but need to know what you think.

This is what we have come up with so far.

1) Freedom of expression within the NS TOS
2) Freedom of religion, race, nationality, sexual orientation, romantic orientation, and gender identity
3) Freedom to place puppet nations
4) Right of return
5) Right to vote in elections
6) Right to a quick and respectful public finding of fact and debate prior to ejection.
7) Outside internet accounts and social networking sites and the information on them shall remain separate from NationStates and shall not be used against a member
8) A right to two endorsements for WA members.

We need to know:
1. Do you think a Bill of Rights for the region is a good idea?
2. If so, what would you like included?

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