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Arain wrote:It wasn't the Baathists, the military overthrew the monarchy under Qassim. They paraded the king and regents corpses naked and mutilated across Baghdad. The Baathists came into power later. How I know this? Well I like history :)

The thing is Iran doesn't care about Iraq they care about their own interests. They want to re-establish their "Persian dominion." They are only using the rhetoric they are using to further their power. They funded Al Qaeda in Iraq which is now Da3ish and when the Iranians were confronted by Shia religious leaders in Iraq who demanded to know why Iran was funding them since they were enemies of Iraq, the Iranians replied that it was in their interest and that "it would get rid of the Americans". A blatant lie as the Americans also helped create ISIS as stated by Hillary Clinton in her book and leaked/declassified CIA documents. Iran is trying to convince Shiites that they are their protectors and ISIS is being used to develop that false mentality. They are splitting apart Muslims and making the Sunnah and Shia hate eachother all because of their interests. Such is when Rouhani or what is Khamenei's assistant who said that Baghdad is the capital of Iran.

We all have different opinions but never was Qatar and Saudi Arabia innocent niether was Syria's Assad he was the one funding Al Qaeda in Iraq to keep them in the other side of the border and all of the top convicts, the aid, the weapons came from Assad in 2008 while Saudi and Qatar have this unbelievable hate towards us its obvious in thier media (Al Arabiya and Al Jazeera Arabic) but you will never see it from that prospective since its those channels that blame everything on Iran its the typical Arab thing to do im not saying Iran is innocent but it sure did not do what those channels are brainwashing people to think they did.

I wouldn't be suprised if all the nations of the middle east funded ISIS everyone has a intrest in Iraq its the buffer zone of the Middle East.

United-hayat, Arain, and Islaamistan

Arain wrote:Kawther and Hayat I have a question, why do you name people nicknames in Iraq? XD

Abadi
Alawi
etc.

Those are not nick names they are actual tribes.
i know adding the "i" in the end makes it sound like a nickname but its not its just a shorter way of saying from the tribe of (bani or abu)

United-hayat, Arain, and Islaamistan

Kawther wrote:Those are not nick names they are actual tribes.
i know adding the "i" in the end makes it sound like a nickname but its not its just a shorter way of saying from the tribe of (bani or abu)

But Abadi is a nickname of Abdullah and Alawi a nickname of Ali.

Kawther wrote:We all have different opinions but never was Qatar and Saudi Arabia innocent niether was Syria's Assad he was the one funding Al Qaeda in Iraq to keep them in the other side of the border and all of the top convicts, the aid, the weapons came from Assad in 2008 while Saudi and Qatar have this unbelievable hate towards us its obvious in thier media (Al Arabiya and Al Jazeera Arabic) but you will never see it from that prospective since its those channels that blame everything on Iran its the typical Arab thing to do im not saying Iran is innocent but it sure did not do what those channels are brainwashing people to think they did.

I wouldn't be suprised if all the nations of the middle east funded ISIS everyone has a intrest in Iraq its the buffer zone of the Middle East.

Saudi and Qatar aren't innocent either they are funding rival groups in Syria and Iraq that are not as bad as ISIS but still pretty bad (IE: Nusra Front, etc.) maybe not on purpose but by funding rebels these groups are bound to get them. Also there are those who say Qatar funded Musallam Al Barrack in Kuwait and were interfering in our internal affairs as evidenced by Qatari cars coming in and participating in illegal demonstrations. I don't take my views from Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya, I have a wide set of networks typically Kuwait TV news, Sky News, BBC, Al Arabiya, Al Jazeera (rarely), even Press TV (I just laugh at Press TV I never take it seriously because its a bunch of rubbish XD). I mainly form opinions over declassified documents, verifiable leaks, sound theories, on top of what the political hierarchy wants you to see. But Iran I really dislike because I can tell it plays on sectarianism the most to expand their power, Saudi just respond to it to contain that power. Iran is trying to make the situation in Yemen sectarian even though Ali Abdullah Saleh who Saudi supported before was also Zaidi.

Kawther and Islaamistan

Arain wrote:But Abadi is a nickname of Abdullah and Alawi a nickname of Ali.

Saudi and Qatar aren't innocent either they are funding rival groups in Syria and Iraq that are not as bad as ISIS but still pretty bad (IE: Nusra Front, etc.) maybe not on purpose but by funding rebels these groups are bound to get them. Also there are those who say Qatar funded Musallam Al Barrack in Kuwait and were interfering in our internal affairs as evidenced by Qatari cars coming in and participating in illegal demonstrations. I don't take my views from Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya, I have a wide set of networks typically Kuwait TV news, Sky News, BBC, Al Arabiya, Al Jazeera (rarely), even Press TV (I just laugh at Press TV I never take it seriously because its a bunch of rubbish XD). I mainly form opinions over declassified documents, verifiable leaks, sound theories, on top of what the political hierarchy wants you to see. But Iran I really dislike because I can tell it plays on sectarianism the most to expand their power, Saudi just respond to it to contain that power. Iran is trying to make the situation in Yemen sectarian even though Ali Abdullah Saleh who Saudi supported before was also Zaidi.

The majority of the Toyota armed cars ISIS use are either plated in Saudi Arabia or Arbil, Kurdistan
those Wikileaks documents even show how Saudi Arabia deals with the kurds againts the Intrests of all the Arabs in Iraq and interfere inside the Iraqi parliament.
as a result the MPs mentioned resinged after admitting.

Our military is also full of Kurdish Generals that answers to Barazani in secret the Iraqi Army is curropt because its not administrated by rank or experience but by ethnicity. The same goes to all of Iraqs ministries they all have to include top officals from Kurdistan. Under the new "Democratic constitution" America put in place

How could a nation work on baises of ethnicity when the Kurds work against Iraq and have orders from the Saudi Forgien Affairs?

As for the nick names yes Alawi is a nickname given to people whos name is Ali but there are many Tribes who's name is Al Alawi and Al Abadi is not a nick name its a large tribe

Islaamistan

Come to think of it fifteen years ago at the turn of the century war barely existed, look how much the world has changed since then. Its like we're going back in time to a period where wars and conflicts even between nations is common.

Kawther, United-hayat, and Islaamistan

Arain wrote: Come to think of it fifteen years ago at the turn of the century war barely existed, look how much the world has changed since then. Its like we're going back in time to a period where wars and conflicts even between nations is common.

Two numbers
9 11

United-hayat, Arain, and Islaamistan

In Iraq the head General of the Army must be Kurdish
the head of the Special forces must be Kurdish
the head of the Airforce must be Kurdish
the head of the navy (which is all the way in Basra) must be Kurdish ect...

How do you get a nations armed forces working when its generals are loyal to the Peshmerga?

United-hayat, Arain, and Islaamistan

Kawther wrote:The majority of the Toyota armed cars ISIS use are either plated in Saudi Arabia or Arbil, Kurdistan
those Wikileaks documents even show how Saudi Arabia deals with the kurds againts the Intrests of all the Arabs in Iraq and interfere inside the Iraqi parliament.
as a result the MPs mentioned resinged after admitting.

Our military is also full of Kurdish Generals that answers to Barazani in secret the Iraqi Army is curropt because its not administrated by rank or experience but by ethnicity. The same goes to all of Iraqs ministries they all have to include top officals from Kurdistan. Under the new "Democratic constitution" America put in place

How could a nation work on baises of ethnicity when the Kurds work against Iraq and have orders from the Saudi Forgien Affairs?

As for the nick names yes Alawi is a nickname given to people whos name is Ali but there are many Tribes who's name is Al Alawi and Al Abadi is not a nick name its a large tribe

Its not the toyota cars that worry me, anyone can get Toyota pickup trucks its the freaking tanks! The wikileak documents I've even looked over, they don't reference the Kurds really its just diplomatic bailouts and payments and bribes to politicians in foreign countries like in Lebanon they don't mention terror financing or Kurdish financing they do mention funding "moderate rebels in Syria" though. America wants to split these Arab and Muslim countries, divide and conquer. The British did it in India when they would kill cows and throw it in the road outside a Hindu village to make it look like Muslims did it. The Americans are doing the same with Sunnis and Shia, we aren't enemies we are brothers but they are splitting us up. Look at Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc. soon some of those countries won't even exist. They will be Kurdistan, Benghazi, South Yemen/North Yemen, etc.

Kawther, United-hayat, and Islaamistan

Kawther wrote:In Iraq the head General of the Army must be Kurdish
the head of the Special forces must be Kurdish
the head of the Airforce must be Kurdish
the head of the navy (which is all the way in Basra) must be Kurdish ect...

How do you get a nations armed forces working when its generals are loyal to the Peshmerga?

And all of Saddam's generals are with ISIS. Also why does ethnicity matter the heads of the military should be in the position because of experience, the Americans destroyed Iraq when they wrote that new constitution. Also what is the point of the President? He doesn't do anything. I understand it in Britain because its cultural but why is a President cultural in Iraq is it only to please the ethnic makeup of the country? XD

Kawther, United-hayat, and Islaamistan

Arain wrote:And all of Saddam's generals are with ISIS. Also why does ethnicity matter the heads of the military should be in the position because of experience, the Americans destroyed Iraq when they wrote that new constitution. Also what is the point of the President? He doesn't do anything. I understand it in Britain because its cultural but why is a President cultural in Iraq is it only to please the ethnic makeup of the country? XD

Yes but the President can remove the prime minister if he turns un-Kurdish lol what a joke

Our Su-25 pilots are Arabs but our F-16 pilots are Kurds...

United-hayat, Arain, and Islaamistan

Kawther wrote:Yes but the President can remove the prime minister if he turns un-Kurdish lol what a joke

Our Su-25 pilots are Arabs but our F-16 pilots are Kurds...

I think the Iraqi military is basically designed to destroy itself if a civil war ever breaks out...

Kawther, United-hayat, and Islaamistan

Arain wrote:I think the Iraqi military is basically designed to destroy itself if a civil war ever breaks out...

Yes and the kurds will win

United-hayat and Islaamistan

I missed that flag

United-hayat and Arain

Iraq will recive T-50 fighters in 2016 i wonder who will fly those must probably the kurds

United-hayat, Arain, and Islaamistan

Kawther wrote:Yes and the kurds will win

Kurds will win because they want their own country, in the end all sides would get the same result their own independent country that is a shadow of its predecessor state.

Kawther, United-hayat, and Islaamistan

Arain wrote:Kurds will win because they want their own country, in the end all sides would get the same result their own independent country that is a shadow of its predecessor state.

But there is only 1 element that is stopping this from happening the kurds have no insufficient funds of Oil
and independence will result in thier regions destruction
only a fool would leave Iraq which supplies and funds Kurdistan

Islaamistan

Kawther wrote:But there is only 1 element that is stopping this from happening the kurds have no insufficient funds of Oil
and independence will result in thier regions destruction
only a fool would leave Iraq which supplies and funds Kurdistan

Considering they have occupied oil rich regions in both Iraq and Syria and have begun illegally trading in the oil while also getting aid from the central givernment I don't think they care anymore.

Kawther, United-hayat, and Islaamistan

Arain wrote:Kurds will win because they want their own country, in the end all sides would get the same result their own independent country that is a shadow of its predecessor state.

Also they are very much united

I wish Zubair still had its original population that accent is just too amazing for it to go extinct. All the Zubairis are either Kuwaitis or Saudis now, the Baathists basically forced them out and barely any of them have the accent anymore. :(

We have an amazing Zubairi neighbour near my grandma's house he's hilarious he still speaks the accent I love him he's so cranky! XD

Kawther and United-hayat

Islaamistan wrote:Also they are very much united

They aren't United so many different factions are vying for power. YPG, PKK, not to mention the Iraqi Kurdish political parties whom I forget and the rival Kurdish political families, etc.

Kawther and United-hayat

Arain wrote:Considering they have occupied oil rich regions in both Iraq and Syria and have begun illegally trading in the oil while also getting aid from the central givernment I don't think they care anymore.

Yes but even that is hardly enough
in comparison to the larger funds from the Government

Arain

Arain wrote:They aren't United so many different factions are vying for power. YPG, PKK, not to mention the Iraqi Kurdish political parties whom I forget and the rival Kurdish political families, etc.

Yes they are very divided in Iraq alone there are 4 types of Kurds that hate eachother but they have been hushed by Kurdistans dictatorship Barazani

United-hayat and Arain

Kawther wrote:Yes but even that is hardly enough
in comparison to the larger funds from the Government

If they become independent the Americans and Europeans would be happy to purchase the oil. Turkey won't allow a Kurdish State on its border though so we don't know what they'll do.

Kawther, United-hayat, and Islaamistan

Arain wrote:They aren't United so many different factions are vying for power. YPG, PKK, not to mention the Iraqi Kurdish political parties whom I forget and the rival Kurdish political families, etc.

True but in a sense they are definitely more United and invested in a cause than their opponents, they will do their best to carve out a secularist pro Israeli state in Syria and Iraq. The YPG (Peoples Protection Units) much more based in Syria and the PKK more so Turkey, btw can i just say how bad their flags look i mean come on didnt they have any designers nearby lol

Kawther, United-hayat, and Arain

Arain wrote:If they become independent the Americans and Europeans would be happy to purchase the oil. Turkey won't allow a Kurdish State on its border though so we don't know what they'll do.

I think they dont care anymore if Iraq has a turkish state but they certainly wont have the Kurds taking Arab and Turkic lands in Northern Syria

Kawther and Arain

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