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Arkanosianof wrote:I am mainly against it due to my opposition to the idea of "unbiased" foreigners who likely do not understand the way certain things work within other cultures being given the authority to control major government decisions based on opinions from other cultures. This would be essentially the same with any bill that does this. I think a much better solution is to appoint someone from that country to be their inspector, so they would have a true understanding of that country's methods. I personally think this bill was a lukewarm travesty that was only passed due to many seeing "humanitarian aid" and then voting for it without thoroughly reading it.

Sorry, you're a little late. I left a message about that bill a few pages back. Right now, I'm talking about the current bill involving partial-birth abortions. Other than possibly being overreaching (which the WA doesn't seem to care about since it universally legalized abortions a while ago), I don't understand why so man nations are opposed to it. My theory is that many, like me, read the title and assumed it was an anti-abortion bill.

I guess that having Christian Democrats as a co-author doesn't help either.

Kenendy

Do responses to issues like the legality of contraception effect a nation's population growth rate?

Fresynde wrote:Sorry, you're a little late. I left a message about that bill a few pages back. Right now, I'm talking about the current bill involving partial-birth abortions. Other than possibly being overreaching (which the WA doesn't seem to care about since it universally legalized abortions a while ago), I don't understand why so man nations are opposed to it. My theory is that many, like me, read the title and assumed it was an anti-abortion bill.
I guess that having Christian Democrats as a co-author doesn't help either.

Whether it should be legalised or banned should be up to individual states.
Our position is that we're against any bill that curbs civil rights universally.

King Zhaoxiang of Qin and The austral-asian front

Fresynde wrote:Sorry, you're a little late. I left a message about that bill a few pages back. Right now, I'm talking about the current bill involving partial-birth abortions. Other than possibly being overreaching (which the WA doesn't seem to care about since it universally legalized abortions a while ago), I don't understand why so man nations are opposed to it. My theory is that many, like me, read the title and assumed it was an anti-abortion bill.
I guess that having Christian Democrats as a co-author doesn't help either.

Well, I certainly have egg on my face now. But yes, I believe this current bill is ridiculous as well. Stopping it is a step closer to stopping blatant contradictions within the WA, seeing as yes, abortion was universally legalized a while ago.

The austral-asian front

Arkanosianof wrote:Well, I certainly have egg on my face now. But yes, I believe this current bill is ridiculous as well. Stopping it is a step closer to stopping blatant contradictions within the WA, seeing as yes, abortion was universally legalized a while ago.

However I should mention I do acknowledge the fact that the bill isn't anti-abortion, but the things it seeks to make illegal are already illegal in most nations, and I may be mistaken, but didn't the last abortion bill have a point where they decided the fetus would be too developed to abort, and so abortion could not take place past that point? I honestly don't remember.

Fresynde and The austral-asian front

Arkanosianof wrote:However I should mention I do acknowledge the fact that the bill isn't anti-abortion, but the things it seeks to make illegal are already illegal in most nations, and I may be mistaken, but didn't the last abortion bill have a point where they decided the fetus would be too developed to abort, and so abortion could not take place past that point? I honestly don't remember.

Okay. I've only been int he WA for a few months.

Today’s Featured Nation:
Transilvaniae

” Transilvania”

WA Category: Left-wing Utopia

Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Very Good
Political Freedoms: Superb

Transilvaniae's national animal is the Brown Bear, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests.
Transilvaniae is ranked 162,874th in the world and 609th in NationStates for Most Advanced Defense Forces, scoring -22.58 on the Total War Preparedness Rating.

Mikeswill

What kind of issue would allow me to eliminate my 0.5% 'suicide in police custody' death toll? What could have caused it?

Yesterday’s Answer: What is the Wailing Wall?

Congratulations:
Palmstars
Arithei

Only telegrammed responses will be considered
All responses must be in the form of a question

PAINTED LADIES

SHE’S BEEN CALLED THE “MONA LISA OF THE NORTH’ & THE POSTER GIRL FOR THE DUTCH ROYAL PICTURE GALLERY IN THE HAGUE

Who is … ?

Fresynde wrote:What kind of issue would allow me to eliminate my 0.5% 'suicide in police custody' death toll? What could have caused it?

Fresynde wrote:What kind of issue would allow me to eliminate my 0.5% 'suicide in police custody' death toll? What could have caused it?

Corruption rates, I believe.

Fresynde wrote:Do responses to issues like the legality of contraception effect a nation's population growth rate?

I've often wondered about population-related issues too. My feeling is that since population is used as a stand-in for nation age (and is also used to unlock features in game), it wouldn't be affected by any issues. I've never actually gone and tested this hypothesis though...

Fresynde

Arkanosianof wrote:Corruption rates, I believe.

I'm in top 99% for corruption...

Takasia wrote:Whether it should be legalised or banned should be up to individual states.
Our position is that we're against any bill that curbs civil rights universally.

We agree. We have voted against many, many WA bills on the basis of overreaching legislation or demonstrable infringement on any basic idea of national sovereignty. Even in cases where we agree with the jist of what the bill is trying to achieve, and even have similar domestic policies in place, we often vote against purely on the basis that we feel we have no place telling other nations how to govern, providing that governance doesn't threaten us in some catastrophic way.

In our view, it's a common problem.

Fresynde and The austral-asian front

Today’s Featured Nation:
Libertanland

” Noone can convince us white is black and black is white”

WA Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
Political Freedoms: Some

Libertanland's national animal is the Owl, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to toxic air pollution.
Libertanland is ranked 155,745th in the world and 606th in NationStates for Longest Average Lifespans, with 39.58 Years.

Mikeswill

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Things like this are very interesting:
https://i.imgur.com/giKhAmi.png

Why would the output of all of the world's I.T. sector, including mine and NationStates', drop at once?

Transilvaniae, Palmstars, and Scandinavian isles

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An ongoing theory I've had is that some of the very random dips in certain statistics aren't due to actions you've taken, but are part of the game's code, used to ensure that the entire world doesn't grow too advanced and that the majority of people are classified as "average."

Edit: punctuation

Mikeswill voted against the World Assembly Resolution "Protection of Partially Born".

Amongst NationStates residents, voting is currently 8-34 (80% Against).

MH

Today’s Featured Nation:
Joviality

” Run away, run away!”

WA Category: Liberal Democratic Socialists

Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Superb

Joviality's national animal is the sea otter, which frolics freely in the nation's sparkling oceans, and its national religion is Aquarium Therapy.
Joviality is ranked 89,971st in the world and 336th in NationStates for Most Subsidized Industry, scoring 825.08 on the Gilded Widget Scale.

Mikeswill

The Mikes Hope Essence of Mikeswill graciously extends a warm welcome to our newest Nations:

New mance elut
Persutia
Dungostan
Dafuz
Beefo the bold
Jalapenosa
Henew becabica

Our Esteemed Region continues to attract the Most
Enlightened Nations in the JenGov Land.

MH

The current WA Resolution, Repeal "Condemn the Pacific" has been posted on our off-site forums at:

http://www.runboard.com/bnationstates.f2.t83831

SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION AT VOTE

Repeal "Condemn the Pacific"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#177

Proposed by: Canton Empire

Description: WA Security Council Resolution #177: Condemn the Pacific shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The Security Council,
Noting That since the failed coup of Lazarus ended, the Pacific has since acquired new leadership.

Acknowledging that the Pacific has since apologized not once, but twice for the coup and other past actions,

Praising the Pacific for initiating reforms within their region, such as
- replacing government officials,
- democratizing the government,
- reforming the provincial system, and
- beginning peaceful outreach with the GCR Sovereignty Accords,

Further noting that the region of Lazarus has accepted the the Pacific's apology and has exchanged embassies with them,

Observing that there are very tyrannical regions and nations that have not been condemned my this august body, thus canceling the argument made in SC#177,

Further Observing that the coup d'etat by the so called "Gang of Five" was not sanctioned by the New Pacific Order,

Realizing the unfairness of condemning over five thousand nations for the actions of six,

Shocked that Security Council Resolution #177 would endorse the fall of a major government,

Disgusted at the many inaccuracies in the Resolution,

Arguing that the endorsement cap is normal by Inter-regional standards and has contributed to stability unseen by almost any of the Pacific regions,

Amazed that SC Resolution #177 would call for change in a government that is very well liked by the region as a whole,

Asserting the fact that nations and regions involved with the Security Council can choose whatever government style they want,

Further Arguing that the main basis of Security Council Resolution #177 has been rendered null and void by the actions of the Pacific,

Hereby Repeals SC #177 "Condemn the Pacific"

*************************************

COMMEND / CONDEMN PROPOSALS:
These Condemn & Commend Resolutions are mostly a popularity contest and a waste of the World Assembly’s time. It is not the Business of the World Assembly to Honour Nations. The WA is not a Beauty Contest. We would ignore these Resolutions were it not for the ridiculous precedent these Resolutions present.

As such Mikeswill voted FOR the World Assembly Resolution "Repeal "Condemn the Pacific"".

Mikes Hope Essence of Mikeswill
WA Delegate
NationStates Region

Fresynde wrote:An ongoing theory I've had is that some of the very random dips in certain statistics aren't due to actions you've taken, but are part of the game's code, used to ensure that the entire world doesn't grow too advanced and that the majority of people are classified as "average."
Edit: punctuation

If you like the roleplay approach, consider the number of AI doing economic planning. PQ Forge has undergone several economic changes as a direct result of following advice from our own AI.

I wouldn't put it past our virtual overlor.. erm I mean tyrannica... .. I'm sorry - I mean FEARLESS LEADERS to collude and create artificial booms and busts to level the markets for various reasons.

Arithei, Fresynde, and Palmstars

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