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Fortissimum wrote:

Sigh, it is very quiet around here.

So as an icebreaker then; what is something the Lord has been teaching you recently?

Ecclestia wrote:

Hi friends!
If you're so inclined, I'd like to invite you to join the United Pacifists faction.
If your region would like to boost the faction, that would be so appreciated!
Everyone is welcome: page=faction/fid=147

Tell you what, instead of joining your faction, we will just ally ourselfs with you. No nuke exchange between us, deal?

Ah beans, I missed N-day again.

My thought on being a frontier is that this region is geared specifically towards Christian nations - with pretty diverse beliefs of both theology, practice, and political ideology. While I am not opposed to having nations/players of nations with non-Christian connections here - it makes sense to me that those who would dwell here opt in to doing so. If we had a more active dialogue going on - things might be a little different.

But I also think it could be fun to shake things up a little bit here too, so I am not strongly opposed. So if anybody has good ideas; feel free to suggest or start a conversation about them.

I have a question please, I know here the delegate's authority is tied into influence. But what about in the frontier does the delegate have absolute authority no influence needed would that be correct

New Bethel wrote:

The delegate Has only one endorsement.. We wouldn't last 5 minutes in the frontier until 2 or 3 devil worshipping themed world assembly nations took over. How many times have we been raided here quadruple that in the frontier sorry for the negativity but that's the way I see it.

I actually completely agree on that, well except for the devil worshiping people. It seems unlikely that in the event of an invasion, the invaders all worship the devil.

Fortissimum wrote:

but another thing is that that it is already the case. because our govener no longer exists the person with executive control is already the WA deleagte, at this point in time we wouldn't need to be a frontier for an invasion. literaly anyone could come in with WA membership and vote someone else in.

Transitioning to frontier puts us in a weaker spot overall. It halves the time it would take for raiders to destroy the region entirely, and thus halves the time defenders would have to help us in the event of a raid attempting to completely take over the region.

If we are to transition we should not stop at frontier, and should ultimately seek the help of Defenders to transition to a Stronghold with a governor, so that we can be a fully secure and safe region.

Fortissimum wrote:

Look I won't disagree until I understand this completely.
How would changing to a frontier half the time it takes for an invasion? (I'm serious tell me how)

It does not half the time for a raid, it halves the time for regional destruction.

Currently there are two ways that raiders can destroy regions; they can clear them out and attempt a refound, which is risky because it can be intercepted by defenders, or they can seize the delegacy and transition the region, which is safer for them but can be stopped by the WA.

To seize control of a stronghold region via transition, raiders have to transition the region into a frontier, and then transition it back into a stronghold so that they can hold the governorship. The Transition from stronghold to frontier is 7 days, and then the transition from frontier back to stronghold is another 7 days.

If we transition to frontier, and stop there they will only need to accumulate the influence to transition or region once, and then wait seven days, before it is destroyed, as opposed to us staying at stronghold status where they will need to accumulate the region to transition the region twice, and then wait 14 days, before it is destroyed.

Unless we reach out to defenders and get their support to make a full and safe transition to obtain a governor, we are better off staying as a stronghold.

I mean our region's leadership is already seriously unstable, I don't know I you've noticed but our current delegate Chemung has been in and out of office the last few days. they literally only have one endorsment. some of us guys need to join the WA and endrose Chemung. also before you ask I can't join the WA for another 70 days becasue someone supspected that I was endorseing myself a while back and reported me (I wasn't endorsing myself. I literally only got two endorsments because I told the two endorsers that I would endorse them in return).

Cody Ko wrote:

This is either a blatant lie, or it is proof positive that you do not know what you are talking about.

Either way, you're wrong and spreading misinformation.

The WA cannot change the rules to disallow all frontiers from converting to strongholds, only admin can do that and there would have been an announcement if they had... however, given that it was always an intended mechanic for raiders to be able to utilize the fronter/stronghold transition to destroy regions it would make absolutely no sense for admin to suddenly decide that wasn't something that they wanted.

What may have confused you is that the Security Council can pass Injunction Resolutions which prevent the specific region being targeted by the resolution from converting from it's current status to the other. However those resolutions only effect the region that they are targeted towards.

It is possible that I may have been mis-informed.

I want to make it known that this is a dummy nation for Fortissimum. I keep some money in the bank for when I see a leg card that I want. Nothing about this account is aainst the nationstates rules. I don't card-mine, I don't use this for extra WA votes. it is simpy a saving account for my other nation. So please don't report me, I didn't do anything wrong.
(in case you are wondering WHY I decided to tell everybody that this is a dummy nation. It is because I wanted to be compltetely honest about my account with everybody. so i ain't keeping no devious secrets.)

Why does nobody use the chat????
It's been three days since anyone spoke. make things intersting and talk or people might leave.