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Any Libertarian party that takes off in Great Britain has to be radically anti-establishment, like UKIP. It makes no sense to continue to pander the mainstream, that might work in Canada or Australia, but GB? Not really.
What will draw in votes is something totally different, yet at the same time something that is attractive in it's own way.
United Kingdom*
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That's a shame. Surely he is still radical within the his party though?
Yeah. Anti-establishment and radical populism is the only way to get any form of libertarian party elected, even in multiparty democracies.
In EU states for example going for non-racist Euroskeptics whom usually are forced to vote for liberal federalist parties is a good idea. That's how the Czech Party of Free Citizens got in the parliament.
No. It means you talk about the government a lot. A conversation you should be having.
Radical Libertarian.
It's a party test. I am no longer in the party.
WE DID IT!!! WE DID IT!!! By God, I've been waiting for this moment since I first heard about this project two years ago. I've followed this every step of the way, and just earlier today, it all paid off!
http://i.imgur.com/iVagMFs.jpg
I'm almost crying!!!
Unfortunately, populism of any kind is like a magnet for conservatives to latch on to and spew their nonsense, which makes it hard for liberals and libertarians to have any kind of legitimate movement.
FDP? Died and got replaced by AfD.
Tea Party? Taken over by SoCons with issues that do not have anything to do with the original goal.
UKIP? Became virulently racist, anti-immigration, etc. (although arguably it was always like that)
I'm amazed that Svobodni is still "libertarian" by the loose definition.
Ehh, that may be so, but I've been following it almost every day since I learned about it. It became the only reason I ever used Twitter.
Here's question: Is there anything fundamental to libertarianism that makes it impossible to progress via populism? Is there something around popular leaders that just makes them so unlibertarian (I have an answer in my mind bt I wanna kinda just hear discussion amongst y'all)
Hey guys it's MG, I'm back as long as I can find time to keep this nation alive I will, how's everyone doing, and has anything changed since I left and since I briefly made a reappearance, I can say for myself a shiitton has changed in my life.
What changed?
Post self-deleted by Neu rilka.
I graduated high school and am in community college, became more social, changed the college's I intend to transfer to consideration wise, got and got dumped by my first girlfriend, became more religious and have started putting extra parameters on who I'm willing to date, as in while I have no qualms about being friends with women who identify as believing in protestant denominations I would not date or marry one, this was before I started dating my ex.
On the not so fun side I've also Bern struggling with depression for the last few months and about 3 weeks ago it took a bit of a darker turn that resulted in a friend speeding over to my place to pick me up and keeping me at het house that night to moniterer me, yeah that wasn't so pleasant, but I'm on meds now and it seems to be getting better.
Thank you, hopefully in 13 months i can leave this town and possibly state, the goal is to head to Texas.
And yeah it does suck, but I am thankful I have people around me to help, without them things might have been very different.
UKIP used to be a broadly Eurosceptic party with a Tory background and libertarian leanings that it was initially open to exploring. In 2013/14, Farage suggested privatising marriage, legalising handguns and decriminalising all drugs. Any traces of principle disappeared by the general election. I was considering voting for them, until I saw the vile mixture of xenophobic and economically illiterate posts and statements shared by them, wrapping together Slavophobia and tirades against 'tax dodgers' like fish and chips. This was a wake-up call for me, and thankfully I voted for a more sane, but still unpleasant, alternative.
Speaking of which, I've been accepted as an intern for the office of my local MP, who happens to be a relatively prominent member of the government. Yes, he's a party-line Tory, but he's fascinated by libertarian ideals and I'm hoping I can change things from the inside.
Speaking of religion, I am considering renouncing my Catholicism and looking for a church more friendly to the word of Christ and libertarian ideals in general. I have only begun considering this because the current pope is a thug who advocates mass violence, theft and murder through taxation and statism. So pretty much everything Jesus preached against. And as long as I am a Catholic, I must listen to this man. Anybody got any ideas?
Texas and not Maryland? Why the change of heart?
Despite poll results being non-binding, I have decided to listen to them and have a race series for our next sports event. We've had one before, and this one will be in a similar, if not the same format.
Details coming soon.
Populism is usually mob rule exploited by a powerful leader. And as it tends to be, people get rallied up easier by problems like immigration which libertarianism doesn't really provide a"solution" for.
Anti-tax populism seems to work the best, but like I said, it draws more soCons than consistent people.
Good luck, Pev. Id especially push the issues of state surveillance and internet monitoring by the state. Who knows, you could be the next Carswell of the Cons and get the youth vote.
Thanks, I'll do my best.
FDP went down because of 8 years as a minor partner in a coalition, and they are just moderate market liberals. The AfD takes mainly from the CSU and CDU. Both the FDP and AfD are polling better now than during the election.
Yeah UKIP was always like that. I'm not sayong there are any libertarian populist parties now. I can only think of one psrt that ever was libertarian and populist. The Danish Progress Party before they were taken over by nationalists in the 80s.
Svobodni has many good people in it. Petr Mach the leader says he is inspired by Rothbard abd Rand. And Bastiat was voted the most influential person on their beliefs by Svobodni members. The Liberland president a Svobodni guy high up in the system is AnCap.
But yeah. Populism leads to the main ideas being watered out. That is a big part of all kinds of populism I guess. Just look at SYRIZA now.
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