WA Delegate: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney (elected 330 days ago)
Founder: The Federated Realms of Distruzio
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Construction of embassies with Swingsack has commenced. Completion expected in 2 days 19 hours.
Construction of embassies with League of Nations has commenced. Completion expected in 3 days 7 hours.
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|1.||The Dynastic Republic of Leocardia||Moralistic Democracy||“Be a leader, be a friend, be of service.”|
|2.||The United Socialist States of Marlencom||Psychotic Dictatorship||“Munire viam ad Communismum”|
|3.||The Oppression Loving World of Dead Oppressive World||Psychotic Dictatorship||“World of the cowardly and oppressed!”|
|4.||The People's Republic of Alyakia||Democratic Socialists||“A love that crushes like a mace”|
|5.||The Green Kingdom of Ferrianona||Authoritarian Democracy||“GABEN”|
|6.||The Republic of Mourtzouphlos||Compulsory Consumerist State||“Senatus Populusque Romanus”|
|7.||The Holy Empire of Distruzionopolis||Corrupt Dictatorship||“One God, One Empire, One Religion”|
|8.||The Sultanate of Bunga Bunga||Compulsory Consumerist State||“Edamus, Bibamus, Gaudeamus!”|
|9.||The Commonwealth of North Western GAJT||Corporate Bordello||“We shall have an association free from class antagonism”|
|10.||The Republic of Pict-land||Inoffensive Centrist Democracy||“Noli me tangere!”|
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- 3 hours ago: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney agreed to construct embassies with League of Nations.
- 3 hours ago: Embassy established between Head Scratchers and Laissez Faireholm.
- 3 hours ago: Embassy established between The Atlas Union and Laissez Faireholm.
- 3 hours ago: Embassy established between European Region and Laissez Faireholm.
- 4 hours ago: Embassy established between Laissez Faireholm and Anarchy.
- 12 hours ago: The Imperial Federal Republic of Wizlandia of the region League of Nations proposed constructing embassies.
- 15 hours ago: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney agreed to construct embassies with Swingsack.
- 18 hours ago: The Kingdom of Non Potest departed this region for United Kingdom.
- 21 hours ago: The Kingdom of Non Potest arrived from The North Pacific.
- 1 day 15 hours ago: Embassy cancelled between Threedom and Laissez Faireholm.
Laissez Faireholm Regional Message Board
LOL. When a druggie does it it's called doing heroine, but when a doctor does it it's called "vaccination."
Literally the crux of your argument relies on one institution to be identical to the other.
The fruits of your labour however, are private property, or entitlements to such.
Of course private property has to he compensated for. If you don't think so, you have a pretty weird vision of distributive justice. If a mother renounces ownership of chocolate cake and leaves it on the table for her two children-- but no specific one child, as to render it common between them-- is one child eating it ALL justifiable? I would say not: the child would have had to compensate at least a bit for this theory of distributive justice to actually be a cogent theory of distributive justice.
How isn't it? If the state has the responsibility to protect individuals from harm and to enforce their rights to property, how does rectification of injustices not fall into their list of responsibilities as well?
Incorrect. Albeit they are similar.
I bet you think Hilary Clinton is a heroine. As is Margaret Thatcher.
Private property is compensated for, and it has nothing to do with taxes.
Hahahaha. Wait, you actually believe this nonsense? The state has the responsibility to protect individuals?
The state has no responsibility to protect anyone. Any service it may provide, including the protection of someone's private property is merely a side effect of the state working to achieve its own goals.
So I typo'd at nine in the morning, big deal.
How is private property compensated for, if not through taxation?
What is the state but a private defense agency with a monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force that covers free-riders as well as "paying customers"?
The sales price. What the hell do taxes have to do with anything?
It is not private, it is not a defense agency, and it is not legitimate.
While we have an obligation to pay the state, the state has no obligation to protect us.
Unowned pieces of land can't be bought because they lack an owner. They can only be appropriated. Appropriating unowned pieces of land has to be compensated, else its possession is illegitimate.
It's a play on words from Nozick's justification of a state: take a private defense agency, that's legitimate, give it a monopoly, that's legitimate, and it's called the "ultraminimal state" as it meets all the criteria necessary to be a state without being what we would actually call a state. Add onto it the fact that it covers free riders in the system of justice, that's legitimate, you have the minimal state-- without contravening any single law or principle set out by libertarian ethics. My question was: if this is what the state is, how does the state not have any duty to protect us?
No one has any obligation to anything or to do anything. So long as the state exists, however, its calls for protection are legitimate.
Compensated to whom, and for what reason?
Private agencies would have a contractual obligation to provide protection. There is no such thing for the state.
We have an obligation to pay taxes. Many people have gone to prison for tax evasion. The state has no obligation to protect us. Why? Because the state makes the rules, obviously.
One of many such cases...
What are you talking about? Wesley Snipes (albeit, a high profile case, and not typical) served three years in prison despite being acquitted of tax evasion, acquitted of conspiring to defraud the United States, acquitted of filing false claims.
He was found guilty of three counts of willful failure to file income tax returns.
The man's crime, is literally, not giving the government pieces of paper.
You have the audacity of talking to me about obligations? Tell Carolyn Warren, Joan Taliaferro and Miriam Douglas about the state's obligation to provide protection. They were misled, and indoctrinated just like you. They thought they had a case. They thought wrong.
False comparison, since the homesteading principle is what justifies land ownership. The children have not "homesteaded" or have done anything to deserve the cake.
Plus, you are thinking in anarchic terms - in order for this comparison to work, the mother would in still be an actor that ensures each portion the child worked for is justified (and upheld on said basis, reactively.) That being said, if justice was misdone, the courts (compromised of maybe, the other siblings in a democratic minarchist state) have always provided a means to fix it.