WA Delegate: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney (elected )
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Regional Power: Moderate
Today's World Census Report
The Highest Average Tax Rates in Laissez Faireholm
Although some nations have similar tax rates for all citizens and others tax the rich much more heavily than the poor, the following provides a rough guide to the most taxing governments.
As a region, Laissez Faireholm is ranked 17,234th in the world for Highest Average Tax Rates.
|1.||The United Socialist States of Marlencom||Psychotic Dictatorship||“Munire viam ad Communismum”|
|2.||The Green Kingdom of Ferrianona||Authoritarian Democracy||“GABEN”|
|3.||The People's Republic of Alyakia||Democratic Socialists||“A love that crushes like a mace”|
|4.||The Republic of Atlanticatia||Left-wing Utopia||“Solidarity among individuals”|
|5.||The Confederacy of Neu Rilka||Scandinavian Liberal Paradise||“Freiheit über den Tod”|
|6.||The Republic of Weslostan||Psychotic Dictatorship||“Weslo”|
|7.||The Democratic People's Republic of Sergey||Left-Leaning College State||“Working Together For a Better World”|
|8.||The Democratic Republic of Yes We Can||New York Times Democracy||“Bigger is Better”|
|9.||The Republic of Isles Argentum||Civil Rights Lovefest||“Citizens United Through Liberty”|
|10.||The Motors of Lincoln Sydney||Civil Rights Lovefest||“Smarter Than Luxury”|
- : The Incorporated States of The libertarian Treehouse Club of the region The Libertarian Treehouse Club proposed constructing embassies.
- : The Libertarian Democracy of Gharoukannia of the region GANGIP proposed constructing embassies.
- : The Great Dragon War Lands of I P A S of the region U R N proposed constructing embassies.
- : The People's Democracy of Quayle departed this region for American Union.
- : Embassy cancelled between Libertarian and Laissez Faireholm.
- : The Pevvania of Cosmo Kramer arrived from The Rejected Realms.
- : The Guerrilla Forces of Libertarian Rebels of the region The Brotherhood proposed constructing embassies.
- : The Pevvania of Cosmo Kramer departed this region for Fort Chernyi.
- : The Oppressed Peoples of Vlad Farewell of the region Libertarian ordered the closure of its embassy in Laissez Faireholm.
- : Embassy cancelled between NationStates Sesquipedalian Countries and Laissez Faireholm.
Laissez Faireholm Regional Message Board
Without government, we'll have government, so we need a government to protect us from government.
Definitely cut back on the usual tribalist "look at muh country and how unique we are!"
Norwegian whatever 'you guys' think yourselves to be. Compassionate?
You get the idea.
I am not an anarchist for three reasons below:
Theoretical limitations - Ancapism may rebound into a state (using Nozick's logic as I presented above) that could be worse than even the most libertarian state, and therefore destroys itself. A minimal state is the only strong guarantee that libertarianism can exist in a chaotic, conflicting world.
Philosophical differences - Anarchism is a contravention of the non-aggression principle it believes it sticks to, in which it makes following the NAP completely voluntary and therefore destroys the philosophical foundation it is built upon. No general law and order function to enforce the non-aggression principle = no libertarian society, but instead a society that treats the NAP as a mere suggestion.
Practical limitations - Anarchy is not sellable to the public, the majority of people are statists, and education alone is not enough to convert people.
You say that we should strive for more freedom, more libertarianism, and I agree. But to what extent? If anarcho-capitalism is the "end goal" so to speak, why do you ignore say, striving towards anarcho-communism? Is that not a greater end goal, a society in which poverty doesn't exist, everyone is "equal," and blahblahblah?
The true naive utopian is somebody who thinks that giving a group of people all the guns and all the power can limit itself. Force change through the political system? Maybe. But what happens when the political system changes? Liberty can easily be lost. As long as government exists, there will always be socialists, nativists and parasites to take advantage of it and sway public opinion. There is no guaranteed that a minarchist state can remain forever.
You've been listening to Austin Petersen too much. People must be taught moral values. The NAP is already believed in by most human beings, except when it concerns government. Almost everybody believes that killing and stealing is wrong. The great ethical challenge of our time is to convince the people that morality applies not only to individuals, but groups as well. Education can indeed sway the masses.
What the hell has that got to do with anything? None of the libertarians here want "anarcho"-communism because we believe it is inherently statist and antithetical to freedom, along with being massively impractical. Anarcho-capitalism is believed in by ancaps because we believe it will lead to the most desirable long-term outcomes for humanity.
Socialists, nativists, and parasites will exist regardless of the size of the government, except maybe in a huge Pinochet government where you can just silence them all. Perhaps you'd like that better, as it would be the best way to achieve your utopia where everyone is the same and no one holds counter-anarchist positions to the Natural Market Order.
Tell me, did "market forces" stop the Bolsheviks from getting into power? Did market forces stop the Romans from coercing anarchic primitive societies to join them or die? Where, in the state of nature, do market forces self regulate themselves? If one traces the development of the nation-state, one will get to a point where there is anarchy, and in anarchy there was enough imbalance for some group of people to say "hey, this force stuff really works!"
what happens when the political system changes? Then we change with it. If fascists or other authoritarian socialists take over, are we supposed to bind ourselves to the NAP and willingly allow ourselves to be jailed or sent to gulag? Of course not. We are peaceful now because peaceful attitudes are a realistic way to fight for what we believe in, but if that opportunity is taken away from us, then we become more like the revolutionaries of America and France - libertarian freedom fighters who don't sit around waiting for utopia to happen.
A good analogy is the fact that libertarians in New Hampshire have successfully gotten into government (even a couple anarchists) through peaceful measures, but violent libertarians have instead been awarded with more police militarization - achieving exactly the opposite that they want. But if New Hampshire (or the US, or whatever governmental institution) becomes increasingly hostile to peaceful processes, then the net benefit of revolting violently might override political action and winning the hearts and minds of people. Currently, we are not at that point, and revolting now could damage the movement forever.
People only obey the NAP BECAUSE they are limited in real life from violating it. Without the invisible threat of the policeman, people would rob, murder, and steal, but the sole fact that people CAN get arrested, put to court, and sentenced for doing so. Christian morality did not stop Christians from violating it (lol inquisition), why do you think that libertarian morality would correctly govern a libertarian society? Morality has always been consequential in real life, and always subjective. It is you, Pev, who is foolish to think that people's morals will change and people will always obey the NAP in an anarchist society. It's the kinda nonsense that discredits Rothbard as a major libertarian figure outside of ancap circles.
holy sh!t dude that's like half the minarchist argument in the first place. Thanks for proving my point unwittingly.
Lolwut? Equality can only be attained through force. Communism is mandated poverty.
This already happened. In every single nation. Tens of millions of peaceful people are locked up in cages all over the world.
Violent libertarians? What? The term is an oxymoron. By definition, violence is not libertarian.
Most people do not rob and murder because they have moral objections to robbery and murder, and they are not pieces of sh!t. Not due to the threat of prosecution.
That being said, an anarchist society does have ways of dealing with such people. Opinions on the matter differ, but tons of anarchist literature deals with this.
This is why praising Denmark as a social democratic success model is a bad idea:
Nothing ever bad happens when you raise taxes! Promise! Social democracy works people! You just got to beeeeellllieeeevveee.
(This is targeting Atlanticatia mostly)
Companies do illegal things all the time. Denmark still collects the highest taxes in the world as a % of GDP. Not sure what you're attempting to prove.
States do illegal things all the time.
Higher taxes are not something to praise.