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Congratulations Morrdh!

Palmyrion wrote:

What GD is crazy about now:
Morrdh's son

Speaking of.

Last night the little bugger had half the ward staff convinced he was being starved (his blood sugars dropped again) and in typical fashion fell fast asleep halfway through being fed this morning.

Val verde grande wrote:

Been working on my factbooks. Anyone mind taking a look? I think they're kind of cool. The military ones are the only ones with a lot of progress because lets be honest most people RP on NS for wars haha

For your small arms you are using:
6.5x45 JmC caseless (6.5 JmC) (LY20 HILAR)
6.3 LCL (L21 AHLAR)
Faerber 6.45x42 Cased Telescoped (Scorpion AR & Mare LSW)
Shotgun shells (12 gauge, most likely, for Hirsch ASG)

That's...3 intermediate calibers, shall I say 2 too many. DO NOT use multiple intermediate calibers. Makes logistics a pain in the ass. Have only one, standardize all to use, say for example, 6.3 LCL or 6.5 JmC

Your Brigades are based off American BCT's. Though, your BCT's don't have MRLS, while mine has (teehee)

Do you not have a full-power cartridge?

But still-having multiple intermediate cartridges is a bad way to start, IMHO. First you must decide what must be your standard kit and your organization, then grow your military from there, not grow a military with ~12 intermediate calibers and ~100 different small arms at the start.

Though, I do see you selling off surplus when you finally decide on a standard intermediate cartridge, but you better ask the guys you bought from before selling. One note: don't be lenient about selling, be careful who you sell to.

New Aeyariss wrote:

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Technically this is my brigade TO&E, still in draft.

May I take elements from your brigade, then give you credit?

Brave having only one medical squadron per brigade. As I recall, the current trend (at least in my parts) is for integrated medical support at the battalion level (as a Medical Receiving Point or Regiment Aid Post or whatever you plan on calling it) at the troop size, with a Role 2 facility supporting the brigade (i.e a field hospital/dressing station/whatever). So larger medical squadron, and bolster the medical evacuation as troops in each of the battalions.

Also, lots of firepower on the medical transports. Asking for trouble if I'm honest ;).

As for medical integration with the marines, you do have the upshot of having medical
facilities on the boats. As I recall, amphibious assault ships/landing docks/motherships tend to have facilities equivalent to a field hospital (Echelon 2 OR 3), with any overflow handled by the Echelon 3 facilities aboard carriers. The only real concerns are the Echelon 1 facilities on the beach head (the medical posts) and the medevac.

Give me a shout if you want any medical equipment sorting. That's kinda my area of expertise. Moka should know.

Greater themis wrote:

Brave having only one medical squadron per brigade. As I recall, the current trend (at least in my parts) is for integrated medical support at the battalion level (as a Medical Receiving Point or Regiment Aid Post or whatever you plan on calling it) at the troop size, with a Role 2 facility supporting the brigade (i.e a field hospital/dressing station/whatever). So larger medical squadron, and bolster the medical evacuation as troops in each of the battalions.
Also, lots of firepower on the medical transports. Asking for trouble if I'm honest ;).
As for medical integration with the marines, you do have the upshot of having medical
facilities on the boats. As I recall, amphibious assault ships/landing docks/motherships tend to have facilities equivalent to a field hospital (Echelon 2 OR 3), with any overflow handled by the Echelon 3 facilities aboard carriers. The only real concerns are the Echelon 1 facilities on the beach head (the medical posts) and the medevac.
Give me a shout if you want any medical equipment sorting. That's kinda my area of expertise. Moka should know.

Typically the way its done is that there is a medical support 'company' at the brigade level, but what you understand as a company in the infantry sense isn't the same as a medical support team. My grandfather served in one of these during the Vietnam War. They're not integrated at the battalion level though.

And as far as arming medical units goes, that's smart. Nobody gives a damn about the big red cross on the side of a helicopter/Evac APC (not that we really have those, in the US anyway) anymore. They'll still shoot at you. As far as I'm concerned, it makes emergency evacuation better able to perform its job by giving it a means of self-defense.

Wanderjar wrote:

Typically the way its done is that there is a medical support 'company' at the brigade level, but what you understand as a company in the infantry sense isn't the same as a medical support team. My grandfather served in one of these during the Vietnam War. They're not integrated at the battalion level though.
And as far as arming medical units goes, that's smart. Nobody gives a damn about the big red cross on the side of a helicopter/Evac APC (not that we really have those, in the US anyway) anymore. They'll still shoot at you. As far as I'm concerned, it makes emergency evacuation better able to perform its job by giving it a means of self-defense.

I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the US system he's basing it on. I'm more looking at it from the British perspective, which is somewhat different in setup. In the UK at least medical support is far more integrated, insofar as each battalion will have its own integrated medical personnel, the RMO's staff remaining with him at a battalion level post, with CMTs deployed to the comapny's as necessary. At the brigade level, you'll have a squadron from a medical regiment in support for evacuation, aspects of which may be deployed with the combat battalions to re-enforcw their staff, and aspects of which would look at transport between facilites both forward and back; and in British operations some sort of Role 2 facility. Divisional you'd certainly look at Role 3 facilities with the full staffing of a field hospital, though those sort of operations are again somewhat limited in contemporary times.

As for the medical arming question, that's one side of the argument. Arguably people won't shoot at you if you display a protected symbol and don't have medical staff heavily armed, if you're fighting a symmetric war - in asymmetric conflict, you'd be right to an extent, and in NS given the prevailing mindset that would also be right. In my experience in the UK, the heaviest thing you'll find might be the door gun on the MERT; certainly not cannon. All soft skinned dedicated ambulances I've worked with have been unarmed, the crew's individual weapons sufficing. It boils down to how you balance humanitarian customs over military necessity.

When I say sustainment brigades, this includes Army Medical Corps brigade elements which typically are distributed at the battalion level to division elements from Corps brigades. Since this isn't necessary given Val Verde's brigade heavy system, creating independent sustainment brigades in each military region (which function like a division or corps in their own right) you by pass the actual need for higher level commands and can integrate the systems at the brigade level. While this would be inefficient for myself, Lamoni, or you to a lesser degree, for a country of what, 200 million, in the NS-verse that's pretty reasonable. When he hits a billion I'd encourage him to start considering departing military regions and creating a corps/army structure.

Wanderjar wrote:

I wouldn't say I have tremendous knowledge of how the army does it. I'm a Marine, and an infantryman to boot, and we do our medical thing a bit differently. I'm going off of what I've read and basically understand about how the Army Medical Corps works in the US, and from how it worked while my grandfather was in the Army as XO of the 56th medical laboratory in Saigon. As far as how you described it, you're correct. What you're not keeping in mind is that Britain, while using modular brigades like the US, also has a divisional structure with sustainment brigades. I don't think Val Verde understands that, and I hope he takes my advice in creating some to flesh out his structure a bit more. He's on the right path though, as far as I'm concerned. Given his small size, the brigade and military region system is probably the best way to go rather than try to create Corps and Division elements at this time.
As to arming medevac units: Let's put it like this. While Wanderjar would probably not shoot at medical evacuation teams, most countries in the NS-verse probably would. You think any of the Gholgoth states, or the Kraven Corporation, would pay heed to a red cross? Nah. That said, I think that Val Verde's just working with what he was given from Wolf Armaments. They tend to over-arm their equipment even when not necessary. I don't think its necessarily a bad thing, perhaps not totally realistic, but not a bad thing either given the reality of NS warfare.

Happy days. The whole organisation in the UK is in the middle of being shaken up as part of the last strategic defence review - my understanding is that the Reactive force element consists of brigades similar in style to the US modular brigades, whilst the Dynamic/Sustained/whateverthebuzzwordistoday force follows the more traditional division structure, feeding in units for rotations. Medical regiments have moved from supporting particular divisions and brigades over to being part of the pool that supports either the reactive or dynamic force elements, and in terms of overall ORBATing are factored into regional brigades, supporting whatever unit is in the local area. Field hospitals still fall under the national 2 Medical Brigade, and are divvied up amongst the army as and when needed, without any official regional ORBATing. It's confusing to say the least. The Royal Marines get their medical personnel from the Navy, and again are likely different due (in the UK at least) to the reliance on ship based medical facilities. But yes, NS is a different kettle of fish yet again, so really one can use a blank canvas to try and get the best of all worlds, like you're suggesting.

Again, agree with your deduction of the NS situation. I always wonder what humanitarian law would look like in an NS region. I still think the heavy cannon on the vehicles is somewhat OTT, but I'm sure they can be taken off with the necessary tools if it's deemed appropriate.

Hope you're back in soon ;) enjoy the film

Dostanuot loj wrote:

You mean to say you are conducting operational research to use during a platoon exercise later involving potential xenomorphs, right?

Nope, he's sitting in his arse on taxpayers cash! Outrageous!1111

The Matthew Islands wrote:

Nope, he's sitting in his arse on taxpayers cash! Outrageous!1111

Technically not, since I'm off duty at this point ;)

But realistically? Yeah. That's exactly what I'm doing. Shamelessly.