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Bourboncois wrote:

I know I sound like a heartless person, but unfortunately, we can't trust everyone in this world sadly. I know it's right that we should help those people, but what if their mixed with a few terrorists that want to destroy us? The question is should we keep helping them, or deport them? That's why I say Isolate them for the mean time until the issue is gone, so that it could both protect the locals and the refugees who just want to look for peace and a better life.

I suggest challenging that perspective through the exercise of imagining yourself in the shoes of a refugee. Imagine yourself in the shoes of someone forced into a concentration camp. Imagine yourself in the shoes of someone who has been erroneously branded/labeled or otherwise regarded as a minority or the 'other' in society. Read reports and personal accounts of people who have had these experiences. Then revisit your position.

Bourboncois wrote:

Why even test them if they could be worthy? They can be released after the problem is gone. They should however work and contribute like every good citizen should. The isolation camp is meant to prevent terrorists from doing any trouble, and to prevent the refugees from discrimination by the locals because of the said terrorists.

and what I mean released, I meant by the refugees joining the american society, or any other society they wish to be in.

Bourboncois wrote:

I know I sound like a heartless person, but unfortunately, we can't trust everyone in this world sadly. I know it's right that we should help those people, but what if their mixed with a few terrorists that want to destroy us? The question is should we keep helping them, or deport them? That's why I say Isolate them for the mean time until the issue is gone, so that it could both protect the locals and the refugees who just want to look for peace and a better life.

You understand that this is exactly how terrorism works right? Isolating Muslims will only further their cause...I mean how would you feel if you got taken from your home and place in some camp in the middle of know where, losing your house, your job, your friends, and then a guy comes to you preaching how bad the west is...you would be a little more sympathetic to his cause.

Bourboncois wrote:

I'm not talking about the local muslims however, only the refugees. Why would I send the local muslims in the isolation camps? They didn't do anything wrong. What the local muslims should do is that they should help their government find those terrorists so they can show themselves that they are not terrorists at all.

More people die from being struck by lightning in america every year than terrorism. It's simply used by our government as an easy scapegoat to push privacy-restricting laws on. Sure, it's terrible, but, in the words of Benjamin Franklin “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

Bourboncois wrote:

and what I mean released, I meant by the refugees joining the american society, or any other society they wish to be in.

I think you may be confused. You were originally talking about putting 11 million people in "isolation camps" instead of deporting them. Those 11 million undocumented works are primarily from Latin America (Mexico, etc). They are not refugees and they are not Muslim. These are two very different topics. But the 11 million you are talking about are undocumented workers ("illegal immigrants"), they are not Syrian/Muslim refugees.

Bourboncois wrote:

I'm not talking about the local muslims however, only the refugees. Why would I send the local muslims in the isolation camps? They didn't do anything wrong. What the local muslims should do is that they should help their government find those terrorists so they can show themselves that they are not terrorists at all.

And that's like asking the immigrants from Mexico to help us identify cartel members or black communities to identify gang members...it's extremely dangerous and too much to ask average everyday people.

Jee. I wonder why Kurds in Turkey are so pissed off.

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On the train from Hereford, England (Near the Welsh Border) to London. Because of the connections I have had to get four trains. Just got off the third one and on none have my tickets been checked, nor were they checked at the station. I paid £57.50 to get to a communist event and nobody even checkedmy ticket. RIP me

Bourboncois wrote:

It's okay Communicar, bad luck always happens. I'm very sure something better will happen to you at some point. Oh and I hope you do reach to this communist event you mentioned. Have a nice trip.

I have now arrived. It's a BBQ event with a distinct lack of vegetarian food, which means sucks to be me

Communicar wrote:

I have now arrived. It's a BBQ event with a distinct lack of vegetarian food...

Sounds like my kind of place.

Ratateague wrote:

"Well you've got train tickets... that's technically vegetarian, right?"

True, and they haven't even been checked. May as well eat them, just so I've got some use out of them!

Gallifrax wrote:

Do they have teryiaki chicken barbeque wings? I'd think they'd be a staple for any proper BBQ event.

Eh hem. Teriyaki-Barbecue chicken wings*