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Iron duchy This is your only warning. You will not receive another one.

Post by Santa colombaria suppressed by a moderator.

Oops, too late.

Well, I saw that one coming from a mile away.

Post self-deleted by Trinnien.

Santa colombaria

So I haven't even said anything regarding my position on Nazism, for the record I am vehemently opposed to it in every way, and you still find the need to suppress my post. This truly only weakens your argument because you're building a bubble and refusing to even acknowledge the existence of a dissenting opinion.

Sincerely,

A Political Scientist

If you're going to praise Nazis and unironically heil Hitler I'll be giving you a one way ticket to ejection straight to hell. Choo Choo.

As a refresher: RMB Rules and Expectations

Antisemitic content is worth an automatic ejection in this region, however. While there is "freedom of speech," as a region, we have the right to set whatever standards we want about acceptable content. You post this sort of stuff, you will be banjected. You quote that sort of stuff? At minimum, your post will be suppressed.

Consol energy, Kaboomlandia, Murden, Samudera darussalam, and 1 otherThe republic of iceicejay

Santa colombaria

Aexnidaral wrote:If you're going to praise Nazis and unironically heil Hitler I'll be giving you a one way ticket to ejection straight to hell. Choo Choo.

I find it truly hard to believe you actually view that as a serious praise of Hitler and the Nazi Party of Germany.

Santa colombaria wrote:So I haven't even said anything regarding my position on Nazism, for the record I am vehemently opposed to it in every way, and you still find the need to suppress my post. This truly only weakens your argument because you're building a bubble and refusing to even acknowledge the existence of a dissenting opinion.
Sincerely,
A Political Scientist

You're damn right we're suppressing a "dissenting opinion". Violent opinions should never see the light of day. I have absolutely no tolerance for intolerance.

Mousebumples, Consol energy, Murden, Samudera darussalam, and 1 otherBriganland

It wasn't interpreted as "serious". It was interpreted as "trolling". No matter what you espouse about your political beliefs, you are still bound to follow site rules. Please consult the One-Stop Rules Shop for the complete ruleset.

Kaboomlandia

Santa, I'm not referring to you. My comment was in reference to the person I banjected, and as a general overall warning.

And for the record, this is NOT Mousebumples. She reported the trolling for mod treatment just like any other player can, and did NOT act in a mod capacity to suppress and warn.

Mousebumples, Aexnidaral, Kaboomlandia, Murden, and 5 othersSamudera darussalam, Kalbera, The republic of iceicejay, Noahs Second Country, and Santa colombaria

Santa colombaria

Bralia wrote:You're damn right we're suppressing a "dissenting opinion". Violent opinions should never see the light of day. I have absolutely no tolerance for intolerance.

You only serve to empower those with that opinion by refusing to even acknowledge their existence. Want to truly fight intolerance? Let the dissenting opinion's walk freely and dismantle them with factual evidence.

If you're not doing that then you're not fighting intolerance, you're propagating it.

Sincerely,

A Democratic Socialist
Activist for Social Change
Lesbian

Santa colombaria

Aexnidaral wrote:Santa, I'm not referring to you. My comment was in reference to the person I banjected, and as a general overall warning.

The person who I know personally and is from my region. I'm fully aware of the situation, and if you look back you'll find I was also partaking in the trolling. I didn't do it to try and spread a false narrative of a flawed ideology, I did it to try and highlight the rather exaggerated consequences and beliefs held by some here.

That's it.

NationStates Moderators wrote:And for the record, this is NOT Mousebumples. She reported the trolling for mod treatment just like any other player can, and did NOT act in a mod capacity to suppress and warn.

Thanks for responding in a timely manner. I may not agree with the outcome of the matter, but it's good to know that the sites moderators are indeed active in looking out for the concerns of their site users.

Iron duchy wrote:whats wrong with other ideologies talking about their beleifs?

Believe in what you want to believe unless:

1. It harms you

2. It harms others

This includes the "right to discriminate".

Nazism is a belief system that invalidate's other people's very existence; it's a toxic and unjustifiable thought process.

Santa colombaria

Murden wrote:Believe in what you want to believe unless:
1. It harms you
2. It harms others
This includes the "right to discriminate".
Nazism is a belief system that invalidate's other people's very existence; it's a toxic and unjustifiable thought process.

So I'm curious.. if you truly believe in that first point does this mean you don't believe in bodily autonomy?

Just because one can harm themselves of their own volition (mentally or physically), doesn't mean one should. There are rules to living in a civil society - trying to limit self-harm is one of those things since it is detrimental to societal growth and prosperity.

Santa colombaria

Trinnien wrote:Just because one can harm themselves of their own volition (mentally or physically), doesn't mean one should. There are rules to living in a civil society - trying to limit self-harm is one of those things since it is detrimental to societal growth and prosperity.

Yes you should try to prevent and/or stop it, however that should not mean that the ultimate right of the person to define their own destiny should be taken away.

Santa colombaria wrote:So I'm curious.. if you truly believe in that first point does this mean you don't believe in bodily autonomy?

If you're referring to medical procedures, personal affectations such as addictions, and other such things, I think you'll find that it's both wrong to conflate those two ideas (safe beliefs and bodily autonomy) as it's not a case of black and white. It also assumes you may have intertwined physical and mental/social health and seeing others before you and vice versa.

Santa colombaria

Murden wrote:If you're referring to medical procedures, personal affectations such as addictions, and other such things, I think you'll find that it's both wrong to conflate those two ideas (safe beliefs and bodily autonomy) as it's not a case of black and white. It also assumes you may have intertwined physical and mental/social health and seeing others before you and vice versa.

Generally speaking bodily autonomy is a relatively black and white idea, as far as being able to do things to yourself so long as it doesn't harm others.

Santa colombaria

Anyway I can see I won't make a dent in the way any of you believe and I need to get back to swallowing South America and creating the perfect state in my own region so.. ta-ta!

In other news, Winter is Coming.

Murden wrote:In other news, Winter is Coming.

We got a couple of inches snow earlier today - pretty sure it's here :-(

Trinnien wrote:We got a couple of inches snow earlier today - pretty sure it's here :-(

Same, supposed to get a few inches here tonight.

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