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no, he didn't. he did not manufacture the famine. no reputable source says that, including Davies/Wheatcroft. "intentionally let[ting] starving people die" is not the same thing as "intentionally caused a famine to starve people to death"
like do you people seriously think stalin is some kind of bizarre wizard bogeyman who can manufacture an entire famine to murder millions of people? do you realize how absolutely preposterous that is?
I compete in Lincoln Douglas debate in my local circuit mate, so I can argue semantics with you all day. "Intentionally letting starving people die" implies that Stalin had the means to alleviate their suffering, letting essentially meaning allowing within the context.
actions such as rejection of outside aid, confiscation of all household foodstuffs, and restriction of population movement are actions that suggest stalin planned this.
clearly you know more about this than renowned scholars in the fields of Slavic studies and sociology including people who have written extensively on famines.
weird that no one questions Tauger's research on the famines in India but he MUST have been wrong re: Ukraine because he didn't blame Stalin!!!
Listen here, we know this a personal hero of yours and that is fine, but we are not blind and we do not deny historical fact. So if you want to continue to do so no one can stop you
lmao
We tend to laugh our ass off at you too
Miencraft, Kings island, and Condealism
You know what? You're absolutely right. That is a thing that happened. To recap:
You asked the SC to give CAPS to you six months after we took it, and then we refounded it without incident. Then you asked the SC for permission to attack - pardon, continue attacking regions affiliated with Libertatem and REATO, they gave it to you, and now you are proceesing to do so.
And you mean to tell me that you are the one in control here?
When I look at your comments, I see someone who is constantly trying to justify himself, and his beliefs, to the world. I can see that in a positive light; humility, after all, is a virtue, and the implicit requisite for unity and cohesion in a hypothetical communist society is deference to one's peers. You're just trying to be a good comrade. You want what is best for your friends, and wish so very greatly for your enemies to get what's coming to them.
Look at us. We are your enemies, Misley, and I feel it only fair to warn you that your efforts to explain yourself to us are in vain. But you were ready to accept that, were you not? You chose us to be your nemeses - you even wrote two SC proposals, which passed, clear for all to see, that you oppose what we do, and will stop at nothing to destroy us. Because that's how the game works, am I right?
So, please. Do continue to flip-flop between calling The Red Fleet a multiregional organization and the military branch of The Internationale. We like the ambiguity. Do continue to justify placing our destruction above that of the fascists to your comrades. We enjoy watching you betray one another in the name of leftist unity and international socialism. Do continue to attack the innocent and bully those who are willing to leap into the fray. We are honor-bound to stop such villainy.
But you'll certainly be at it for a damn long time if you keep it up like that. Honestly, I've given you so many hints on how exactly to defeat us that I should be court-martialed, and as I expected, you are totally oblivious. So I'll only give you one more: To win, and win indefinitely, you have to be willing to do the one thing Libertatem has never done, never came close to doing, and never will do for as long as it exists.
Oh, and since you're our enemy, please don't be pathetic. While we're more on the side of moral integrity, you must understand that to the interregional community, image is everything. We're not just prone to having prominent tyrants hate us publicly; we're counting on it. Thank you.
Kings island, Pevvania, The new united states, and Rateria
We were, and always will be, a ragtag group of vagabonds, utilizing stealth and deception to overpower larger regions and bring totalitarianism to it's knees. The World Assembly can call us terrorists, but they are afraid to see us how we really are: freedom fighters.
And seriously, apologize to the people of Fort Chernyi, or at the very least give a sincere show of gratitude to Ronacria for making your victory possible. That man let you have what you wanted and was willing to let bygones be bygones, even though he really didn't have to.
Though some are resentful that the authoritarian left has once again invaded their home, they are all willing to refrain from causing you further trouble and accept your ludicrous definition of justice. Embrace their generosity - that one simple act of standing aside was a greater show of leftist unity and solidarity than you could ever hope to accomplish.
I should make a 500 page novel off of you Condealism.
Ankha, Rateria, and Condealism
Wait, the WA called us terrorists? When was this? :P
i don't flipflop between these at all, because TRF isn't the military branch of TI. I have never called TRF the military branch of TI.
but thanks for the college sophomore "I've taken an intro to psych class!" armchair evaluation of my motivations on the internet browser video game Jennifer Government: NationStates by Max Barry!!
be good at military gameplay?
See, it's that kind of remark that assures me that you don't know the answer, and wouldn't be willing to carry it out even if you did.
And I hope I'm not unsettling you too greatly - this is indeed just a game, and the fact that you hammered that point home suggests that you wanted to make that very clear. Thing is, was that supposed to be for my benefit or yours?
You can take Libertarians off the list of REATO members, because it's now under the control of this 'fool' ;)
Always so serious around here.
REATO should probably just be shelved, shouldn't it?
It effectively only really has one member, this region. And its been that way all along.
IRU doesn't really count as a full region imo.
The Hyatt Islands is a founderless WA hole that you've spent over a month defending.
Gay Equality never even really agreed to be a member.
Minerva's puppet region "Libertarians" lasted how long before we took it?
After we finish up securing AAA & UCR we're gonna have to refocus our efforts on the nazis & traditional fash.
There isn't much more we can do to you until your founder CTE's.
Good luck with whatever terrible reprisals you have planned for us, maybe more tag raids on empty regions twice removed from us?
Well, like eight different people have access to our founder account, so that could be a long wait.
Or it could be shorter. The moderators explicitly discourage nation-sharing. If any one of those eight different people does something stupid enough to get deleted, then say goodbye to your founder.
Post self-deleted by The new united states.
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