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Has anyone tested out the new nation making features?

Montmorencia wrote:Has anyone tested out the new nation making features?

I just did. I think it's cool that you can see the results of your choices, but at the same time, it takes out the chance element and makes it so that you focus on just which option will give you the results you want, not what you would actually do in a situation, which I think is a bad thing. That's one of the reasons I like issues-- you only learn of the effects after you choose a side, which is much more like real life.

Esterild, Communal ecotopia, Bruination, Idryll, and 1 otherCanaltia

Unhuman reserves

Doxovia wrote:Oh Goodness... that that might explain why some of Doxovia's more gullible citizens are dressed in chicken costumes and claiming it's the next fashion trend to be sweeping Forest...

LOL did you notice what we use for currency at the Reserves?

Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:Oh my God! Was it your scheme? Why did you capture him and his team? It caused great upheaval here.
And yes, we would like to have him back.

It was pretty funny watching your country go in meltdown. Also, who sails around our waters in such an unarmed craft anyway?! State-sponsored piracy is fairly common round here.

Here you go. Free of charge. *hands the team back*

Chan island wrote:It was pretty funny watching your country go in meltdown. Also, who sails around our waters in such an unarmed craft anyway?! State-sponsored piracy is fairly common round here.
Here you go. Free of charge. *hands the team back*

By the way, we have just noticed that Chan island is located on the Teufel Hunden Sea to the North of Forest. Professor Smith and his team, however, were carrying out their investigations in the Kolaxa Sea which is in the South. In order to get into the waters where you say pirates have captured them, they must have steered around the entire Forest peninsula. They did not even have sufficient provisions for such a long-term enterprise. It is unlikely that they wanted to move beyond the Kolaxa Sea.

The conclusion suggested by all this is that you are not being honest with us. Have you sent your pirates down to the Kolaxa Sea? If you have made such a mistake, our diplomatic relations will be seriously damaged.

You can also get into big trouble with any countries on the coast of the Kolaxa Sea if your pirates have entered their territorial waters.

We will certainly investigate this issue. Professor Smith and his fellow researchers are being examined in a state hospital right now and they are under a shock. As soon as they overcome the trauma of their capture, they will be interrogated.

Let us hope that you did not commit an international crime.

Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:By the way, we have just noticed that Chan island is located on the Teufel Hunden Sea to the North of Forest. Professor Smith and his team, however, were carrying out their investigations in the Kolaxa Sea which is in the South. In order to get into the waters where you say pirates have captured them, they must have steered around the entire Forest peninsula. They did not even have sufficient provisions for such a long-term enterprise. It is unlikely that they wanted to move beyond the Kolaxa Sea.
The conclusion suggested by all this is that you are not being honest with us. Have you sent your pirates down to the Kolaxa Sea? If you have made such a mistake, our diplomatic relations will be seriously damaged.
You can also get into big trouble with any countries on the coast of the Kolaxa Sea if your pirates have entered their territorial waters.
We will certainly investigate this issue. Professor Smith and his fellow researchers are being examined in a state hospital right now and they are under a shock. As soon as they overcome the trauma of their capture, they will be interrogated.
Let us hope that you did not commit an international crime.

We here in Mount Seymour wonder if the sailors Chan Island picked up were after all not actually Jeremy Smith and his team. Recently, a fisherman off Āčạ́ēte Bay near our Quixote Island found a hand-made raft floating out in the ocean as he came in to shore for the night. He towed it in, but only the next morning could he see what was on the raft-- five dead, emaciated men. One of them was clutching a journal, in which was recorded how they had gotten lost and been so hungry they had eaten their dead companions. The journal, mysteriously, was engraved on the cover, "J. Smth".

The fisherman notified the Mount Seymour Investigation Unit, who currently holds the raft and bodies safely at their facility in Downtown Quixotea. The Unit's director, Dr. Samuel Maitin, encourages Frieden-und Freudenlandian officials to come to examine for any connections with the lost Dr. Jeremy Smith.

Updates may come soon...

Mount Seymour wrote:We here in Mount Seymour wonder if the sailors Chan Island picked up were after all not actually Jeremy Smith and his team. Recently, a fisherman off Āčạ́ēte Bay near our Quixote Island found a hand-made raft floating out in the ocean as he came in to shore for the night. He towed it in, but only the next morning could he see what was on the raft-- five dead, emaciated men. One of them was clutching a journal, in which was recorded how they had gotten lost and been so hungry they had eaten their dead companions. The journal, mysteriously, was engraved on the cover, "J. Smth".
The fisherman notified the Mount Seymour Investigation Unit, who currently holds the raft and bodies safely at their facility in Downtown Quixotea. The Unit's director, Dr. Samuel Maitin, encourages Frieden-und Freudenlandian officials to come to examine for any connections with the lost Dr. Jeremy Smith.
Updates may come soon...

As a matter of fact we are sure that the person captured was Jeremy Smith, since his family members could identify him (and so far as we know, he does not have a twin brother). But 8 people who joined this mission are still missing. Jeremy Smith argues that they are held by the pirates, while his assistant tells that they have committed suicide by jumping overboard. But another marine biologist, one of Dr. Smith's PhD students, tells that they have been fatally injured by Dr. Smith and tossed overboard, left to die on the open sea. Dr. Smith and his assistant claimed that the PhD student was insane. We are now waiting for a psychological evaluation of the student.

Something fishy is going on.

If the allegations are true, Dr. Smith may be a criminal, and not a victim; after all.

Chan island, Mount Seymour, and Canaltia

Breaking News from Mount Seymour:

After intensive investigation by the MSIU, more writing has been found in the "J. Smth" Journal, written in invisible ink. It appears to be written by Dr. Jeremy Smith himself, detailing this whole Kolaxa Sea Scandal from his own perspective. It also gives a clue as to why the dead men who turned up in Mount Seymour have the journal, and Dr. Smith doesn't:

"...as we floated in our craft somewhere far off the Mozwovite coast, or maybe the Bearadisian coast...we sighted a group of Chan Islander pirates, halfway across the globe...they threatened us, but soon I got to know them well-- we conversed, discussed schemes, (they seemed curiously interested in my salinometer) and I decided, as my team might well die; being lost out here as we were, and that there might be repercussions because of my planned disposal of certain distasteful crew members; to give these Chan Islanders my Journal, that they could take it back and show the world the Truth of my research."

This gives the impression that the men who were found on the raft were not Jeremy Smith and his colleagues, but a group of Chan Islander pirates who starved to death, and recorded their own mishaps in Dr. Smith's journal. However, there is still the curious line about "disposal of certain distasteful crew members".

We shall see soon...

Mount Seymour wrote:Breaking News from Mount Seymour:
After intensive investigation by the MSIU, more writing has been found in the "J. Smth" Journal, written in invisible ink. It appears to be written by Dr. Jeremy Smith himself, detailing this whole Kolaxa Sea Scandal from his own perspective. It also gives a clue as to why the dead men who turned up in Mount Seymour have the journal, and Dr. Smith doesn't:
"...as we floated in our craft somewhere far off the Mozwovite coast, or maybe the Bearadisian coast...we sighted a group of Chan Islander pirates, halfway across the globe...they threatened us, but soon I got to know them well-- we conversed, discussed schemes, (they seemed curiously interested in my salinometer) and I decided, as my team might well die; being lost out here as we were, and that there might be repercussions because of my planned disposal of certain distasteful crew members; to give these Chan Islanders my Journal, that they could take it back and show the world the Truth of my research."
This gives the impression that the men who were found on the raft were not Jeremy Smith and his colleagues, but a group of Chan Islander pirates who starved to death, and recorded their own mishaps in Dr. Smith's journal. However, there is still the curious line about "disposal of certain distasteful crew members".
We shall see soon...

If they were distasteful, at least we can be sure that cannibalism was not involved.

Breakin news from Frieden-und Freudenland: Professor Smith has been taken into police custody. Officials from CPPD (Civitas Pacis Police Department) have notified us that Professor Smith is being charged with murder.

Our reporter, Simone Thompson, is about to conduct an interview with Rebecca Coleman, Professor Smith's PhD student who accused him of fatally injuring the crew members.

It will be published very soon in the newspaper.

It's been published! The story is really mind-boggling!

Regarding the pirate-- "Trosskolto" mentioned by Ms. Coleman-- the MSIU notes that all the non-invisible-ink journal entries were signed "Itoretrözkoltaia M. Karaturichan". A possible link?

(Wow, those Chan Islanders have long names!)

Welcome to Environmenti and Altazakh!

Uh, Bruination, the map is no longer displaying...

(sorry for the 3 consecutive posts)

Am I the only one who thinks that Ms. Coleman's story doesn't add up? Her tale about one crew member going missing each day, leaving bloodstains, to me smacks of literary license. Why wouldn't the villains kill everyone at once? It's also awfully convenient that there was no trace of the pirates when she was finally rescued by the Coast Guard. I'd say Ms. Coleman's background bears further investigation.

Mount Seymour wrote:Welcome to Environmenti and Altazakh!

Thank you for the warm welcome!

Esterild wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Ms. Coleman's story doesn't add up? Her tale about one crew member going missing each day, leaving bloodstains, to me smacks of literary license. Why wouldn't the villains kill everyone at once? It's also awfully convenient that there was no trace of the pirates when she was finally rescued by the Coast Guard. I'd say Ms. Coleman's background bears further investigation.

The MSUI has done even more intensive research into this case and is coming to the same conclusion... a large news report should be coming out in about 15 hrs (much depends on this report) but preliminary data and a court testimony from Dr. Pamela Pausch (who is actually a citizen of Mount Seymour) have revealed a stunning new perspective, and flipped this case totally around...

Mount Seymour News Agency writers are currently working around the clock in conjunction with MSUI to prepare this report for the Forest News Leaf by tomorrow.

Mount Seymour wrote:Uh, Bruination, the map is no longer displaying...

I'm sure I'm awake ... is it possible to ask oneself that question whilst dreaming? Dest Oritioats on the north east coast woke one morning last week reporting a vast wasteland where Liberal Liberals once bordered our lands. We then heard reports that an entire island nation to the south completely disappeared. Now it seems that our vast book publishing industry can no longer find any references to the Forest map. It is simply "not found". And yet just as our preparations for mourning our brother Liberals Liberals and FuF's the countries have reappears as inexplicably as they disappeared. There is something afoot. Could there be a connection between these geographical happenings and the deaths of those unfortunate Chan Islanders? There must be some sanity to these events or, by Brian O'Hare's bright red left eyebrow, this is surely a dream!

Okay I have a proposal for Forest's own patented overall greeness score (TM). The score is based on your raw score for 6 categories: environmental beauty, weather, tourism, lifespan, ecofriendliness, and public transportation. It takes your raw score and divides by a score that is around the current best score for that category. It's not too important that it is the actual best score, it's basically just a ratio to try to get each of the raw scores in about the same number space (so an average life span of 90 years can be compared with 2,200 pounds of wildlife per acre). So the numbers on the inside of the parenthesis of the equation that follows are the approximate 'best score' for that category. On the outside of each score is a relative weight. What good numbers for the relative weight this is completely up for debate by folks. I weighed environmental beauty much higher than others because I think that's most of what were trying to measure. I realize EB and several other categories have a causation link but still I think it's a large part of the thing we are trying to measure. So here it is:

Overall Greeness = (Environmental beauty /22,500) *.75 + (Weather / 4,200) * .25 + (Tourism / 10,000) * .25 + (Eco-friendliness / 60,000) * .2 + square_root(life span / 105)*.1 + (public transportation / 28,000) * .05

So Doxovia, others who are interested in this what do you think? Do you like the raw score weighted by a rough maximum method? Do you think the weights I assigned to different categories are appropriate?

Ransium wrote:

Overall Greeness = (Environmental beauty /22,500) *.75 + (Weather / 4,200) * .25 + (Tourism / 10,000) * .25 + (Eco-friendliness / 60,000) * .2 + square_root(life span / 105)*.1 + (public transportation / 28,000) * .05

Sorry that square root should be squared. The purpose of the squared is to heighten the difference between various nations when life span is generally pretty clustered.

Mount Seymour wrote:Regarding the pirate-- "Trosskolto" mentioned by Ms. Coleman-- the MSIU notes that all the non-invisible-ink journal entries were signed "Itoretrözkoltaia M. Karaturichan". A possible link?
(Wow, those Chan Islanders have long names!)

Yeah, what can we say? At least the pirate captain, we can confirm, was called "Wu", and he's made it ashore at home.

Esterild wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Ms. Coleman's story doesn't add up? Her tale about one crew member going missing each day, leaving bloodstains, to me smacks of literary license. Why wouldn't the villains kill everyone at once? It's also awfully convenient that there was no trace of the pirates when she was finally rescued by the Coast Guard. I'd say Ms. Coleman's background bears further investigation.

Well, at least some of our pirates have made it home, along with a handful of the crew. For now they have refused to speak to the media, but that hasn't stopped the cameras from besieging a fortified compound on the island's west coast where they have been staying.

Dest oritio wrote:I'm sure I'm awake ... is it possible to ask oneself that question whilst dreaming? Dest Oritioats on the north east coast woke one morning last week reporting a vast wasteland where Liberal Liberals once bordered our lands. We then heard reports that an entire island nation to the south completely disappeared. Now it seems that our vast book publishing industry can no longer find any references to the Forest map. It is simply "not found". And yet just as our preparations for mourning our brother Liberals Liberals and FuF's the countries have reappears as inexplicably as they disappeared. There is something afoot. Could there be a connection between these geographical happenings and the deaths of those unfortunate Chan Islanders? There must be some sanity to these events or, by Brian O'Hare's bright red left eyebrow, this is surely a dream!

This is not a dream. But something far, far weirder. Chan Island has put it's best scientists to work finding the answer.

Hey guys, I'm not sure if everybody has known this, but check this flag waver simulation!

Link : http://krikienoid.github.io/flagwaver/

You can see your nation flag in action!

Communal ecotopia, Frieden-und Freudenland, Bruination, The mockingbird, and 2 othersMount Seymour, and Canaltia

Congrats Forest for picking a green and white regional flag like we did!! Green and white FTW! :D

(Seriously it's really nice looking!)

Ransium, Esterild, Communal ecotopia, Mozworld, and 6 othersMontmorencia, Frieden-und Freudenland, The mockingbird, Bad hair day zombies, Altazakh, and Canaltia

Mount Seymour wrote:Uh, Bruination, the map is no longer displaying...

With Bruination not having logged in for the last 19 days aswell I hope this isn't a bad sign.

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