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An ingredient none the less.
Large-scale industrial civilisations need a cohesive power structure.
I generally favour us being left alone from big government to do our own thing... we don't need a nanny state to control or restrict us.
Pass. Been there, done that, didn't much like the local law enforcement. Lately, it's been getting downright unfriendly there.[1]
Agreed. Alas, beginning in the 1930's with Roosevelt, that idea was turned into something twisted.
No, but security does.
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[1] http://news.sky.com/story/1684832/guatemala-sends-3000-troops-to-belize-border
Furthermore, I would like to add that all social predatory animals are inherently hierarchical. This is why anarchistic or such such far-left ideals will never work out. As much as leftist will tell you human nature doesn't exist, it simply goes against the nature of such a species.
I'm sure we can all agree on that.
Strong state, small government.
@ Sociopia, yes I agree that is the nature of the universe. All animals are hierarchical and life is all about survival of the fittest... Sad but true. That is why Socialism will never work... People are people.
Puerto Rico - abolish the Minimum Wage Law (and the other regulations) and let people work for pay in line with their (low) productivity.
Also stop taxing companies that base themselves in Puerto Rico - they did not use to be taxed, and Puerto Rico does not have the vote. Treat the companies as if they had based themselves in a foreign country (which essentially they have).
"Then Puerto Rico might as well be independent" - fine it can be an independent country.
That would end the right of Puerto Ricans to come to the United States and go on welfare ("Food Stamps" and all the rest of it).
Xyanth and Sociopia
The American Philosophy of "Pragmatism" (which displaced the Scots-American "Common Sense" School in the late 19th and early 20th centuries) is really, whatever the college textbooks say, the denial of objective reality and universal principles of objective truth - and reasoning from these principles.
Pragmatism is the false idea that people can have any "truth" they want if they want it hard enough. It is, essentially, the same philosophy that led to Fascism in so many European countries.
And it is no good to just blame Democrats for this (whatever J. Goldberg may have implied in his book "Liberal Fascism") for it is clear from Primary results that much of the Republican base is infected by the same Pramatism - the same denial of objective reality, the denial of principles of objective truth limiting what one can have.
The whole Donald Trump compaign is based on the idea that people can have anything they want (no matter how irrational it is) if they want it hard enough and get a Strong Leader to get it for them.
The warnings of the First Book of Samuel, Chapter Eight, are again being ignored.
Its ridiculous that governments even exist. Protection? Yeah right. I can protect myself with my guns. Hell, I took karate when I was in sixth grade. I am fine. Governments serve ZERO purpose in life.
Oh wait Hillary took my guns. Looks like I'm at the mercy of the feds...
Xyanth, Sociopia, Liberty plains, and Maxae
Yeah, not so long ago in the Southern United States, that didn't work out so well. This was especially true if you were black, hispanic or American Indian.
Great book. I think everyone should read it.
Who'd you piss off?
The anarchists want zero government. The problem with that is eventually you end up with a Mad Max kind of universe. And there are still leaders. Just not nearly so well mannered as our current leaders are.
I pissed off our WA delegate :P
To be honest, I think we need to try an anarchist society first before making these assumptions. In the absence of government, we still don't know for sure what full capitalism will lead to. I have hope that it would work, but only under the right circumstances.
That's why, practically speaking, I'm a constitutionalist and minarchist. Once we get our government down to the bare basics, we can see if the time is right to remove it entirely.
The thing is that I am willing to sacrifice any sense of "security" from an ultra corrupt organization, especially one that robs me of my hard earned money. If I feel oppressed, then I will leave.
Creating a class of people for the purpose of defense and enforcement of law and order is necessary to free up the labour of the common man so that he is more productive and happy because he must not be preoccupied with his own protection, especially in a high-population area.
Furthermore, this also prevents the establishment of large-scale criminal organisations which can outnumber the common man, resulting in either his subjugation or the necessity of an organised retaliation, either of which are needlessly disruptive and destructive.
And again, a stateless society would also largely fail at the management of public and large-scale infrastructure and projects as well as dispute resolution and the establishment and securing of national borders.
Maybe, but the fact of the matter remains. If I wish to be free, than I'm willing to take these risks rather than be stolen from by one of those criminal organizations you're talking about called the USFG.
Necessary? That just seems like an assertion.
Besides, I can protect myself with my guns. And a stateless society would not be like bandits running wild. All humans have an innate goodness inside them, its not like everyone will turn rouge.
Infrastructure should be managed by the private sector. Maybe then we will updating some of our bridges- those bridge collapses are bad for business y'know.
Sfear is my school region 
Xyanth so accept the embassies plz ;)
I care not what risks you are willing to take.
Then what about the risks that the 51% take that I don't agree with...
You can defend yourself against one thief with your guns, but how about an entire gang of thieves trying to steal your goods? Eventually, you're going to want to have an organization to protect you, and you'll end up paying a portion your goods in exchange for protection. As a result, you'll be making less profit than you would under a federal government. As for the private sector running infrastructure, the private sector will only make roads exclusively for big businesses and charge high rates for the smaller businesses to eliminate competition as big businesses desire to acquire the vertical integration of their companies, similar to Andrew Carnegie, in order to own the means of production. Personally, I believe the government needs to be there in order to prevent monopolies through both vertical and horizontal integration by building roads owned by them, as well as provide protection for a minor fee, that way, we'll be able to freely trade and make a profit.
Roads won't have to charge a fee to be used at all... Do you have to pay a fee to use google?
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