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We invite political debate here. Many times these debates grow heated. If you are the type of person whose feelings get hurt over sarcasm or having your reality challenged, you do not belong here. People complaining to NS moderators over posts on this RMB will be banned for their own good. Better they should be in a place they can be happy.

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Capitalist Libertarian Freedom Region contains 32 nations, the 389th most in the world.

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1.The Free Republic of JakaniaCapitalist Paradise“Peace and Prosperity Through Freedom and Responsibility”
2.The Federal Republic of People with IntellectWA MemberInoffensive Centrist Democracy“He with smarts, shall follow his heart”
3.The Republic of WacmanInoffensive Centrist Democracy“come and join us”
4.The Pirates of XyanthCapitalizt“If there ain't a buck in it, then pack it in.”
5.The Parent Company of HollipWA MemberInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Now with 50% added outsourcing!”
6.The Empire of JesusGotDaBootyWA MemberDemocratic Socialists“All Hail the Booty”
7.The Educational Constituency of PhrontisteriesCivil Rights Lovefest“We are the application of knowledge.”
8.The Land of New ZendikarWA MemberDemocratic Socialists“We are protected by the angel Iona”
9.The United Socialist States of Roadless Socialist statesScandinavian Liberal Paradise“Alternative Rock and muh roads”
10.The Commonwealth of Domestic Corporate AmericaCorporate Police State“True wealth is through profit.”
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Regional Poll • Where should the line between public and private business be drawn?

The Pirates of Xyanth wrote:How deeply into the private sector should government be allowed to plunge?

Voting opened 2 days 4 hours ago and will close in 4 days. Open to residents. You cannot vote as you are not logged in.

Last poll: “Is it appropriate for the school, sheriff and prosecutors to be hanging felony charges on an eighth grader for a computer prank? ”

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I don't agree with teachers spanking children. Parents can. Other people can't.

The True Believers of Free Market Paradise wrote:I don't agree with teachers spanking children. Parents can. Other people can't.

I'm good with that.

The True Believers of Free Market Paradise wrote:I don't agree with teachers spanking children. Parents can. Other people can't.

I agree. I think I may have accidentally implied that in one of my posts. What would you think of a child's and its parents' entering into a contract with a school that stipulates that the school's teachers may enact corporal punishment on the child?

The United Pricipalities of The Autocratic Republic of Azerty wrote:I agree. I think I may have accidentally implied that in one of my posts. What would you think of a child's and its parents' entering into a contract with a school that stipulates that the school's teachers may enact corporal punishment on the child?

If the parents give their blessing, then have at it.


This week's poll is based on something going on in another region. Should government be allowed to enter into and compete with the private sector? During The Great Depression under Roosevelt's New Deal the federal government trampled construction companies and privately owned utilities by setting up government run operations like the Tennessee Valley Authority. With advantages government alone has, the competition was more like a slaughter. Investors and company owners were essentially wiped out.

On the other hand, there are those that want to privatize everything, right down to the police departments and courts. Many think that is going too far.

Where do you think the line between the public and private sectors should be drawn? The new poll is up.

Hmmm... a tough question.

When discussing the role of government in a free society, I generally go for the old laissez-faire answer: to protect the natural, self-evident rights of its citizens. More precisely, to protect its citizens from foreign invaders, to protect its citizens from each other, to allow free enterprise to operate, and to facilitate and uphold deeds. So a government's only legitimate institutions are defense, law enforcement, and justice. To aid free enterprise, the government could also provide infrastructure, such as roads (inb4 "muh roads"), railways, waterways, and sewage systems.

Funding is a bit of a problem. The current way taxes function forces citizens to pay into an institution, even if they may never get anything out of that institution. This is quite literally parasitism (to be fair, citizens may leave, and taxes may be viewed as a way in which governments compete for citizens, but they may leave some citizens too broke to leave, and could lead to capital flight, which is a problem that pervades countries like France and is becoming a problem in the USA. Further, I would not quite count taxation as theft; it is more like extortion). I suggest that personal taxes (on net, so income, property, &c. taxes combined) be cut back to no more than 15% and flattened (if not abolished completely, but that is not going to happen), and the government should be funded instead through lottery, tolls, small sales taxes, and voluntary donations. Corporate and partnership taxes are particularly counter-productive, so they should be cut back a lot, or abolished.

I don't think the government should compete with the private sector because, as you said, The Pirates of Xyanth, the last time that happened, the government practically destroyed private enterprise. It can compete on infrastructure (c.f., USPS), but public institutions have rule of law to prevent them from failing or declaring bankruptcy. Other examples of government competing with the private sector: schooling, retirement funding, housing, student loans. However, public schools are terrible, Social Security is a huge regressive Ponzi scheme on the brink of insolvency, public housing arguably makes it harder to get housing, and many students go into crushing debt with practically no collateral because they get useless majors.

tl;dr Government can provide some things, but in many ways should not attempt to compete with the private sector.

I notice we have one vote for the "all of the above but the government should be allowed to build with its own resources." While I can see arguments for that, looking back to Roosevelt's New Deal government did that very thing with the WPA and CCC projects. The federal government came in and providing equipment, manpower and material offering free road and bridge construction. Projects that would have gone out to bid for local construction companies ended up going to the government. (It's free, what were the city and county managers going to say? No, we want to pay our local construction company to do it?)

As a result, at a time when there were very few jobs to be had, construction companies failed putting even more people out of work. Other industries were troubled as well. Local suppliers that would have sold to materials the local construction companies found themselves sitting on unsold stock making the depression even worse for them. Some suppliers also went out of business.

I am curious as to how you balance that loss of local work, business and jobs.

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