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Looking at the times when the board was good in the late 700s to 850 and now it's crap so I might leave wintreath cause I'm board and i know there are more juicy regions out there and i don't know eat to do. Since @solarion Olympus is gone its not that juicy. Even when the burning sun left and Valeria quit I might just leave wintreath for good.

#make the board more juicy.

Ganticallio

Thanks to the vineyard
solaran Olympus
Renshi
Viperia
My former nation.... -urban-
And even daxev soon

Wintermoot wrote:Wooooooooo =D

[from page 6 I think]

Oh no.

Allouxia wrote:How much Gulag you think you could earn if you went back In time and showed Stalin this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQ-CVBr_Cs

Why would you ask me this? I've never expressed any interest in the may-mays.

Allouxia

French Albania wrote:Why would you ask me this? I've never expressed any interest in the may-mays.

Bro i thought you were gonna "intervene" and make sure the war makes sense and nobody is pulling some god modding bs

Allouxia and Erusiia's war needs to be moderated

Allouxia and Ganticallio

Allouxia

Erusiia wrote:Dude, you started the invasion by hacking into my recon network and playing a loop, and then bombing my “sleeping” pilots and running down my “disorganized” soldiers. It’s been like that for the entire war: your forces are always magically better than mine and manage to score continuous victory. I don’t see why I should adhere to fairness and realism if you don’t.

My forces didn't magically appear, and my own words when I attacked was "when they were likely asleep" I didn't say they were asleep

Allouxian soldiers may retreat over to Azuran borders if needed, as we must honor our W.S.A. alliance to an extent. But if Erusiian forces follow it will be an act of war and the fleet outside of Comona Beach will open fire again and commence a beach invasion. And our assault carriers are still there so we are capable of landing mass amounts of armor and troops.

Remember our fleet still is off the shore of Comona Beach to prevent Baltician involvment,

Allouxia

Goodbye permanently....

[I am now a boneyard relic]

Allouxia

Cote azure wrote:Allouxian soldiers may retreat over to Azuran borders if needed, as we must honor our W.S.A. alliance to an extent. But if Erusiian forces follow it will be an act of war and the fleet outside of Comona Beach will open fire again and commence a beach invasion. And our assault carriers are still there so we are capable of landing mass amounts of armor and troops.

Remember our fleet still is off the shore of Comona Beach to prevent Baltician involvment,

i already landed like a day ago

Allouxia

Greater Balticia wrote:i already landed like a day ago

Yeah but you were slaughter by Erusiian forces

Allouxia

Allouxia

French Albania
Do step in and use your moderator role so we can meet on equal ground so me and Erusiia can have an actual war.

I have an idea tho, Erusiia we can reset the war and re start it. Perhaps when you were harassing some of my ships with you fighters you accidently fired a shot at me causing me to shoot it down.

Cote azure wrote:Yeah but you were slaughter by Erusiian forces

... After that

Greater Balticia wrote:*Imperial Palace in the Nigh Moutains" Fredrik Von Räikkönen sits on his throne in the Halls of the Freezing Imperial Palace "if they want to fight with torture, lets burn there cities to the ground and destroy and last bit of honour they still have left"
*other side of the world* Baltician Bombers and Fighters begin there raids on the Erusiian City's as Divison from the Baltician Marine Corp begin to make landing along the entire coast of Erusiia, followed by Baltician Tank and Infantry Divisions, 200,000 men are landed on the beaches of Erusiia in the following days as they quickly rush to capture Farbanti as quickly as possible, with more and more Baltician troops arriving in the captured ports everyday.

Hey y'all! I've put out another edition of the Underhusen Weekly Report. I’m super-duper sorry that I was 2 days late on this! I had a very busy week and it just passed me by. If y’all have any questions, let me know! Be sure to go check the report out on the forums:

https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=5432.0

or in NS dispatch form:
page=dispatch/id=1093614

Be sure to tune back next week for more news on what's going on in your Legislature!

Crelmania

Allouxia wrote:Do step in and use your moderator role so we can meet on equal ground so me and Erusiia can have an actual war.

I mean, fair's fair. He started out reasonably, you godmoded in literally the first action of the war, and he subsequently met fire with fire. Seems like equal ground to me.
If you'd like me to moderate a save-scummed version of this conflict where nothing's actually happened yet, in the future I might suggest stating the actions you will be taking, after which I can provide the outcomes of these actions, and nobody can thus be said to be godmoding.

Greater Balticia wrote:*Imperial Palace in the Nigh Moutains" Fredrik Von Räikkönen sits on his throne in the Halls of the Freezing Imperial Palace "if they want to fight with torture, lets burn there cities to the ground and destroy and last bit of honour they still have left"
*other side of the world* Baltician Bombers and Fighters begin there raids on the Erusiian City's as Divison from the Baltician Marine Corp begin to make landing along the entire coast of Erusiia, followed by Baltician Tank and Infantry Divisions, 200,000 men are landed on the beaches of Erusiia in the following days as they quickly rush to capture Farbanti as quickly as possible, with more and more Baltician troops arriving in the captured ports everyday.

This was ignored remember? Never happened. And plus it takes time to sail troops over there. Months alone to assemble 20k men.

And waaaaay before that my fleet was there so... yeah that post is invalid

French Albania wrote:[quote=allouxia;32475892]Do step in and use your moderator role so we can meet on equal ground so me and Erusiia can have an actual war.

I mean, fair's fair. He started out reasonably, you godmoded in literally the first action of the war, and he subsequently met fire with fire. Seems like equal ground to me.
If you'd like me to moderate a save-scummed version of this conflict where nothing's actually happened yet, in the future I might suggest stating the actions you will be taking, after which I can provide the outcomes of these actions, and nobody can thus be said to be godmoding.

Then our enemies will know our plans

Bit rusty on the ball busting French Albania aren't you?

French Albania wrote:I mean, fair's fair. He started out reasonably, you godmoded in literally the first action of the war, and he subsequently met fire with fire. Seems like equal ground to me.
If you'd like me to moderate a save-scummed version of this conflict where nothing's actually happened yet, in the future I might suggest stating the actions you will be taking, after which I can provide the outcomes of these actions, and nobody can thus be said to be godmoding.

I’m in favor of this. Allouxia?

Which branch has the better armor?

Army/Marine armor

by Cote azure

Army and Marines both use 0.70" titanium armor plating, and under that Dragon's silk web vests, which are 10x stronger than kevlar. Although both branches use the same material, they both have different armor designs. It's difficult to say which is better.

Army

Marines

Read factbook

Cote azure wrote:Bit rusty on the ball busting French Albania aren't you?

More like 'don't particularly care enough to do it, and have things I'd rather do instead', but alright, since you asked.

Cote azure wrote:The 4th, 7th, 96th, and 45th legions have been prepped.
...
In the sea 8 Aircraft carriers are accompanied by 85 destroyers, 40 guided missile cruisers, and 65 subs.
...
A legion consists of 15,000 men usually. They all have Scorpion Tanks and Azuran aircraft are ready to back them up.

So. From that first line we can infer that you have at least 96 legions, which we can just round up to 100 because let's be real, that's how many you intended to indicate you have by saying '96th'. From the last line, legions are 15,000 men. That suggests you have 1.5 million men under arms, which, when we compare to your bizarrely specific figures from your Military of Cote Azure factbook, suggests the lion's share of your guys are 'footsloggers' (insofar as you can be when 'they all have Scorpion tanks', which is an issue I'll come back to), meaning you left about 450,000 people to do all the rear-echelon stuff that makes an army actually function like 'ammunition storage' or 'maintenance technician' or command staff, all the way down to 'cook'. But let's ignore that and instead look at all the other fun toys you brought with you.
8 aircraft carriers, 85 destroyers, 40 missile cruisers and 65 subs. Boy golly holly, to me that sounds like you've committed all of your naval assets at first glance, but of course that was stupid of me, because in your WFE you clearly indicate your total numbers of each of these extremely expensive toys are 53 (combining your carrier figures), 358, 158, and 267, so really you've committed around 1/4 of your fleet assets to this engagement.
How the sweet Jesus do you pay for all this crap? Simple numbers, let's take the Ford-class figures for your 21 'super carriers', and cut those in half and pretend those are real numbers for the Kitty Hawks and call it a day for your 32 'assault carriers', and you're looking at $470 billion just to build the carriers, nevermind refits. Each of your subs is, assuming they're nuclear subs because that's all the US even uses anymore, is gonna run you up a $5b bill. Each of your destroyers, ~$2b. Missile cruisers, call it a billion. I haven't even started talking about cost-to-run, maintenance costs, supply costs...for example, your carriers should be running up a total bill of $90m a day - at peacetime.
Your Navy is hemorrhaging money just by existing, not even actively doing anything. The costs of actually doing something would be economically ruinous.
Assuming, of course, you're making use of actually reasonable statistics that don't involve your nation being anything like the 6 billion people your NS stats would indicate, because if it is supposed to be 6 billion people in just your country then we might as well just say 'meh' to logical numbers in the first place.
I'd probably go deeper and actually talk about your scorpion tanks like I said, but I've realized the gaping hole in my argument of 'I'm assuming I'm arguing with realistic numbers', and so I'm cutting my losses and going to the beach instead.

Erusiia wrote:I’m in favor of this. Allouxia?

Yeah, do it French Albania

It Came...From The Forums! =O
Answered all your issues? Waiting for new messages here on the region page? Bored? We always have a lot happening on our off-site forums at wintreath.com/forums! In fact, I wanted to share some of the topics that the community has made in the last week. If you're interested, why not give them a read, or register an account if you don't have one already and make a reply? It's a great way to learn what's going on in Wintreath, connect with region-mates, make friends, and have fun!

New Consulate: Hartfelden
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=5428
This week, the region of Hartfelden established relations with us! Why not stop by and welcome their ambassador?

Citizens: [DISCUSSION] Criminal Code
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=5427
This topic is for Citizens to discuss an overhaul of the regional Criminal Code that is being considered in the Underhusen. If legal stuff is interesting to you, check it out!

Orendi Redesign
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=5431
Hydra (Lernaea) shows us some sketches of what the Orendi (our foreign dispatch), could look like in the future!

Citizens: Should Racists and Homophobes be Banned?
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=5429
Should we tolerate people who have racist or homophobic sentiments in our off-site communities? Citizens can make their thoughts known here!

Underhusen Weekly Summary #5
https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=5432
Katie (Gihuodaho) keeps us in the loop about what the Underhusen has done this week. There's also a version of the report pinned to this region page!

Gihuodaho

Cote azure

French Albania wrote:More like 'don't particularly care enough to do it, and have things I'd rather do instead', but alright, since you asked.
So. From that first line we can infer that you have at least 96 legions, which we can just round up to 100 because let's be real, that's how many you intended to indicate you have by saying '96th'. From the last line, legions are 15,000 men. That suggests you have 1.5 million men under arms, which, when we compare to your bizarrely specific figures from your Military of Cote Azure factbook, suggests the lion's share of your guys are 'footsloggers' (insofar as you can be when 'they all have Scorpion tanks', which is an issue I'll come back to), meaning you left about 450,000 people to do all the rear-echelon stuff that makes an army actually function like 'ammunition storage' or 'maintenance technician' or command staff, all the way down to 'cook'. But let's ignore that and instead look at all the other fun toys you brought with you.
8 aircraft carriers, 85 destroyers, 40 missile cruisers and 65 subs. Boy golly holly, to me that sounds like you've committed all of your naval assets at first glance, but of course that was stupid of me, because in your WFE you clearly indicate your total numbers of each of these extremely expensive toys are 53 (combining your carrier figures), 358, 158, and 267, so really you've committed around 1/4 of your fleet assets to this engagement.
How the sweet Jesus do you pay for all this crap? Simple numbers, let's take the Ford-class figures for your 21 'super carriers', and cut those in half and pretend those are real numbers for the Kitty Hawks and call it a day for your 32 'assault carriers', and you're looking at $470 billion just to build the carriers, nevermind refits. Each of your subs is, assuming they're nuclear subs because that's all the US even uses anymore, is gonna run you up a $5b bill. Each of your destroyers, ~$2b. Missile cruisers, call it a billion. I haven't even started talking about cost-to-run, maintenance costs, supply costs...for example, your carriers should be running up a total bill of $90m a day - at peacetime.
Your Navy is hemorrhaging money just by existing, not even actively doing anything. The costs of actually doing something would be economically ruinous.
Assuming, of course, you're making use of actually reasonable statistics that don't involve your nation being anything like the 6 billion people your NS stats would indicate, because if it is supposed to be 6 billion people in just your country then we might as well just say 'meh' to logical numbers in the first place.
I'd probably go deeper and actually talk about your scorpion tanks like I said, but I've realized the gaping hole in my argument of 'I'm assuming I'm arguing with realistic numbers', and so I'm cutting my losses and going to the beach instead.

No No keep it going. yes, I have a large economy and my Navy eats everything. I will concede the point of having way to many soldiers, and I would need some people to run the desks. Which is why I am now drafting 500,000 men to do the job and pulling from reserves.

And like you said, my navy isn't doing anything, which is why 1/4 of my fleet was committed to the engagement. And they aren't just sitting around either. They are constantly running war games and training programs.

Let's say I have a nation of 1.8 billion people eh? Maybe then the numbers could match?

COUNTRY ROADS TAKE ME HOME

Cote azure wrote:COUNTRY ROADS TAKE ME HOME

TO THE PLACE I BELONG

Cote azure

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