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The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:Who else has the resources and will to make a submarine with a 173 mm turret and would want to use it for piracy?

Again, anyone could buy them or their services. The coalition has used mercenaries before, so they can likely be misinterpreted as simply being privateers intercepting contraband. Its Valsora, its borderline 1800s politics.

Sicilianzo

Sicilianzo wrote:Who else has the resources and will to make a submarine with a 173 mm turret and would want to use it for piracy?

Also The death syndicate I’m running on the assumption that the crew has this thing called intelligence and situational awareness

Peatiktist and The death syndicate

The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:Also The death syndicate I’m running on the assumption that the crew has this thing called intelligence and situational awareness

And I'm operating on the assumption that the crew just sh!t their pants because the massive cruisers escorting them got utterly demolished and their captain got deleted by these guns.

Volinovia and Sicilianzo

Sicilianzo

The death syndicate wrote:Again, anyone could buy them or their services.

I’d like to point out that you listed that submarine on the market the day after you pirated that ship

The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:I’d like to point out that you listed that submarine on the market the day after you pirated that ship

I made a post about their launch prior. Pixel art and making dispatches takes a while, you know.

Sicilianzo

The death syndicate wrote:And I'm operating on the assumption that the crew just sh!t their pants because the massive cruisers escorting them got utterly demolished and their captain got deleted by these guns.

Any half trained crew would still know how to use a radio properly and be able to identify that submarine has a big turret on top

Sicilianzo

The death syndicate wrote:I made a post about their launch prior. Pixel art and making dispatches takes a while, you know.

Launch as in first boat made? Or officially listing them for sale?

Osterreich und ungarn

Wazzup fellas

Kampf Empire, Peatiktist, Shavara, Volinovia, and 3 othersThe death syndicate, Sicilianzo, and The Marlands

Osterreich und ungarn wrote:Wazzup fellas

The OU is here.

Hi OU.

Kilkire, Peatiktist, Osterreich und ungarn, Volinovia, and 2 othersThe death syndicate, and Sicilianzo

Osterreich und ungarn

The death syndicate wrote:I wonder if contrarotating propellers could offer higher speeds. Or maybe even a contra-rotating propulsor... That would be an interesting concept for a submarine drive. Stealth wise, I reckon it would give it a... unique sound profile, but if its made with a high enough degree of precision, I reckon it would be a decent compromise between speed and stealth. Say, your shipyards, can they build a coastal to patrol size submarine? I know, nuclear power is all the rage, but I think I want smaller, cheaper ones that will work in closer tandem with a fleet for now.

Give them the prints and money and the Karlsburg naval yard will be happy to produce such a ship.

Shavara, Volinovia, and The death syndicate

The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:Launch as in first boat made? Or officially listing them for sale?

Both.

Sicilianzo wrote:Any half trained crew would still know how to use a radio properly and be able to identify that submarine has a big turret on top

What, you're going to retroactively RP that? The ships were radioed to surrender first, and its a new enough submarine that I doubt its in ye fat book of submarine silhouettes that I'm sure everyone has. Its not like most people aren't concerned with identification of warships and all that, thats a stupid notion. Everyone should know exactly what a new submarine looks, sounds, and smells like!

The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:Launch as in first boat made? Or officially listing them for sale?

First boat of many made. Also, you'll notice I don't really officially list things for sale most of the time, I just kinda sell them after I make them.

Sicilianzo

The death syndicate wrote:Both.What, you're going to retroactively RP that? The ships were radioed to surrender first, and its a new enough submarine that I doubt its in ye fat book of submarine silhouettes that I'm sure everyone has. Its not like most people aren't concerned with identification of warships and all that, thats a stupid notion. Everyone should know exactly what a new submarine looks, sounds, and smells like!

I’m not going to retroactively rp that. They weren’t my ships. I’m simply saying if krozlands crews were half competent they would know how to use a radio and identify a submarine with a turret ducktaped on top

It’s not hard to identify it because you are the only person (to my knowledge) who has ever strapped a turret onto a submarine

The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:I’m not going to retroactively rp that. They weren’t my ships. I’m simply saying if krozlands crews were half competent they would know how to use a radio and identify a submarine with a turret ducktaped on top

It’s not hard to identify it because you are the only person (to my knowledge) who has ever strapped a turret onto a submarine

1.) Submarines can use their radios underwater. The ships were told to surrender and prepare for boarding.
2.) "Strapped on" is a rather offensive term in this case, given the fact that the mounts dissapear into the sail itself. The cannons aren't always out, just when applicable.
3.) And I highly doubt everyone is that damned excited over submarine news to learn about it or even check it out. IRL we caught a narco submarine in Venezuela, China made a new coastal submarine, and North Korea modified a ROMEO class and hardly anyone bats an eye at it.

Estande wrote:You know, if you get a majority of your food supplies from a far-away nation with no real easy access to your territories and then those getting hunted down by 'pirates,' that's entirely your fault.

Not actually.

Volinovia wrote:You know, thinking back.

I’m the reason Peat just basically lost this war…

Not particularly.
Brex told EATU that he would not comply with the Lazio pact sanctions in terms of debt payments.

So Kampf told TDS to start blowing up the payments.

Romanoddle Republic wrote:What happens when Cardonia pays its debt off and doesn't have to send you anything?

Well by that point, the soil's uranium levels should have depleted enough to start growing decent amounts of food again

Terreich und Preussen wrote:
  • Wasting money on battleships.

  • Having a 800 ship navy

  • Using food as debt

  • Threatening a nation 3x there size.

  • Blocking trade routes

Anything else?

Telling someone they'd have to violate your waters to blockade the waters of a third party.

Assuming battleships means 1940s level tech.

Shall I go on?

Volinovia, Sicilianzo, and Romanoddle Republic

Sicilianzo

The death syndicate wrote:1.) Submarines can use their radios underwater. The ships were told to surrender and prepare for boarding.
2.) "Strapped on" is a rather offensive term in this case, given the fact that the mounts dissapear into the sail itself. The cannons aren't always out, just when applicable.
3.) And I highly doubt everyone is that damned excited over submarine news to learn about it or even check it out. IRL we caught a narco submarine in Venezuela, China made a new coastal submarine, and North Korea modified a ROMEO class and hardly anyone bats an eye at it.

They don’t have to say “oh hey that’s the new submarine TDS made” they can say “there’s a submarine with a turret on it” and someone who actually knows this stuff can look into the report, as there’s only 1 class of submarines with a turret on them in valsora

Volinovia and The death syndicate

Krozland wrote:at least you arent a death grips fan

it goes it goes it goes it goes guillotineeeee YUH

Peatiktist wrote:Not actually.
Not particularly.
Brex told EATU that he would not comply with the Lazio pact sanctions in terms of debt payments.

So Kampf told TDS to start blowing up the payments.
Well by that point, the soil's uranium levels should have depleted enough to start growing decent amounts of food again
Telling someone they'd have to violate your waters to blockade the waters of a third party.

Assuming battleships means 1940s level tech.

Shall I go on?

That’s fair.

The death syndicate wrote:Again, anyone could buy them or their services. The coalition has used mercenaries before, so they can likely be misinterpreted as simply being privateers intercepting contraband. Its Valsora, its borderline 1800s politics.

And it's considered piracy to stop ships in international waters and steal their cargo.

Even in the 1800s it was like that.

Volinovia and The death syndicate

The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:They don’t have to say “oh hey that’s the new submarine TDS made” they can say “there’s a submarine with a turret on it” and someone who actually knows this stuff can look into the report, as there’s only 1 class of submarines with a turret on them in valsora

I think the point you are missing here is that they didn't.

The death syndicate

Peatiktist wrote:And it's considered piracy to stop ships in international waters and steal their cargo.

Even in the 1800s it was like that.

Yes, we've driven this conversation into the god damned ground, I think we can drop it. Its for RP, and for all intents and purposes, tied more to the war than it is to broader international politics.

Sicilianzo

The death syndicate wrote:I think the point you are missing here is that they didn't.

Ok

So they were incompetent idiots

That’s totally possible

Hopefully the next ship you hijack has a more intelligent and better trained crew

Of Centralist Brexit wrote:"Londiff was too old and too large to properly function, making it a Nightmare for different departments who were forced to establish themselves in different parts of the city." Julia continued, Jumping in first and scooting over to the other side so Simon can get in, Once doing so one of the guards would close the door and the vehicles begun moving.
"Having A Cleaner layout and easy access to other buildings were vital, hence Winterthorn."

“Interesting.” Simon responds as he looks out the window to get a feel of the environment he had arrived in.

The death syndicate and Of Centralist Brexit

The death syndicate wrote:I didn't see that. Uh... give me a minute.

looks at watch
The hell do you call a minute?

Peatiktist and The death syndicate

The death syndicate

Sicilianzo wrote:Ok

So they were incompetent idiots

That’s totally possible

Hopefully the next ship you hijack has a more intelligent and better trained crew

Okay. Maybe stop whining about past events, its already come and gone and complaining ain't gonna change that.

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