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The Holy Kingdom of Agadar

Greetings everyone from the The lantern islands. Feel free to visit...bring money.

Cantonos

The lantern islands wrote:

Greetings everyone from the The lantern islands. Feel free to visit...bring money.

Begone you fiend, before I get the navy to keelhaul you and your bandit crew.

The lantern islands and Brulafi

Hadzanye

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Athara magarat wrote:

Miklania

Say, I can still have the hangates having their own paramilitary forces right?

Oh he'll yes Hadzanye is having this

Athara magarat and Thepenguinland

Thuzbekistan

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Miklania wrote:

Whether or not services get status as an independent, co-equal branch is entirely a matter of politics. Many countries whose governments came to power through a revolution (9/10 commies) or a military coups tend to have their services split into multiple branches with competing turf, to prevent one from being too powerful. Not being overthrown is a big concern for people who came to be where they are by overthrowing somebody. For examples, look at Russia and their menagerie of security branches, many of which used to be centralized under one roof, located at 2 Dzerzhinsky Square, Moscow Centre. Around here you can look to Thuzbekistan, whose Army is mistrusted by the civilian government for a variety of reasons. To counterbalance them he has a large and powerful Navy and Marine Corps, and an Air Force split into two different parts: one with small fighters and ground attack planes to closely support the Army and the other with fighter-interceptors and boatloads of SAMs to manage the air defense of the country. Guess who would win if the less politically reliable members of the Army decided to be 'anti-social'.

In countries with less cutthroat politics, the general rule that it's all political still holds true. For instance, look at the creation of the US Air Force, and the hullabaloo this caused in Washington. Competition for precious budget dollars is usually what they fight over. In the USAF case, the Army relinquishing its control over the land based air forces resulted in the Navy having a conniption: the infamous "Revolt of the Admirals". Essentially the new Air Force, no longer under the watchful eye of the Army, was free to pursue its mission of winning every war from the air. That meant they needed lots and lots of bombers. Lots and lots of bombers costs a lot of money. The only place to get more money since they'd already taken a goodly portion of the Army's budget with them was in the Navy's budget. They suggested totally scrapping carriers, almost all naval aviation, handing what was left of it over to the Air Force to manage, and relegating the fleet to convoy protection to support the occupation forces that waltz in after the heroic flyboys nuked the enemy into submission. No exaggeration. That was the plan. The Navy was not amused. Political shenanigans ensued, admirals went to the press, bureaucratically sabotaged things, and threatened to resign publicly. Fortunately for the country, they won, and military strategy for the rest of the 20th century was not "bomb them to ashes then send in some soldiers to mop up". A slightly better attempt to prevent this sort of thing from happening after the Imperial War is why the Miklanian Air Force is still part of the Army. And even then, come budget season it tends to be the Army and Navy fighting side by side to stop the air power lobby from carrying away all the pie. Which would obviously lead, in short order, to the end of civilization.

I'm happy I get to be used as a good example of an irl situation

I just thought about a good news post to kick off a new plot.

Razzgriz, Miklania, Corindia, Wellsia, and 2 othersThepenguinland, and Brulafi

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Athara magarat wrote:

Miklania

Say, I can still have the hangates having their own paramilitary forces right?

Why not?

Athara magarat

Thuzbekistan wrote:

I'm happy I get to be used as a good example of an irl situation

I just thought about a good news post to kick off a new plot.

Glad I got the situation correct.

Do tell about this new plot idea.

Wellsia, Thepenguinland, and Brulafi

Tracera

Thuzbekistan

Miklania wrote:

Glad I got the situation correct.

Do tell about this new plot idea.

An "unauthorized" meeting of generals getting busted by the TIS with ties to the conservative parties being found resulting in emergency orders for the national police and army to be put into stand down positions and allowing the marines to take over policing both on bases and on the streets while the army general staff and the opposition parties are investigated. Based on communications discovered during that investigation, elections are suspended and party heads arrested, leading to a very large political and civil crisis. Great rp material imo

Miklania, Wellsia, Thepenguinland, Almorea, and 1 otherBrulafi

The United Commonwealths of Alteran Republics

Thuzbekistan wrote:

Conservatives not being the establishment powers, I presume?

Wellsia

Alteran Republics wrote:

Slight modification of the Sentinel (as the actual turret of cramped A.F. - not as bad as the Firefly mind you ...)

I have the graphics for the Vampish and Valour - will upload them to the dispatch tonight I reckon and try get the other two drawn over the weekend.

I may change one of the variants to that of the Sentinel III Thunderbolt - which had a modified 25 pounder gun that could fire AP and HE shells. Talk about OP ...

Thuzbekistan

Miklania wrote:

Conservatives not being the establishment powers, I presume?

Very much the case

Thuzbekistan wrote:

Very much the case

A primer on your internal politics would be a fascinating read.

Wellsia and Belle ilse en terre

Thuzbekistan

The Snark Queen of Shidei

Miklania wrote:

A primer on your internal politics would be a fascinating read.

I'll link those when I get home

Miklania

I wonder if Alabama had recovered from Hurricane Dorian yet. It must have been horrible. Horrible. I don't know if I've ever heard of a category 5 hurricane hitting land-- I know they exist.

My thoughts and prayers for the devastated communities in Alabama

Corindia

The Hegemony of Wellsia

Shidei wrote:

I wonder if Alabama had recovered from Hurricane Dorian yet. It must have been horrible. Horrible. I don't know if I've ever heard of a category 5 hurricane hitting land-- I know they exist.

My thoughts and prayers for the devastated communities in Alabama

Ever heard of Katrina and Rita.

Thuzbekistan

The Estral Republic of Aizcona

The New Adventures of Alabama, the Alabaster Llama.

Shidei wrote:

I wonder if Alabama had recovered from Hurricane Dorian yet. It must have been horrible. Horrible. I don't know if I've ever heard of a category 5 hurricane hitting land-- I know they exist.

My thoughts and prayers for the devastated communities in Alabama

Pfft category five hurricanes are just made up by scientists trying to say climate change is a real thing /s

Cantonos

The Snark Queen of Shidei

Aizcona wrote:

Pfft category five hurricanes are just made up by scientists trying to say climate change is a real thing /s

Like the 5th dimension was made up to suggest there is such a thing as the universe.

Wellsia wrote:

Ever heard of Katrina and Rita.

I don't know if you missed the joke or I'm being double woooshed

The Hegemony of Wellsia

Shidei wrote:

I don't know if you missed the joke or I'm being double woooshed

Understand you making fun of President Trump’s fubar, but having lived through Katrina and Rita, class 5 hurricanes are nothing to joke about.

Almorea

The Federation of Balnik

Has anyone else had Jury duty before? I got selected.

Wellsia, Belle ilse en terre, and Thepenguinland

Balnik wrote:

Has anyone else had Jury duty before? I got selected.

We don't have that here; have fun!

Nhoor wrote:

We don't have that here; have fun!

How do you do trials without a jury?

Corindia and Brulafi

Miklania wrote:

How do you do trials without a jury?

How do you do it with a jury? The judge or judges are supposed to be the experts; I always wondered why ever you would want to actively involve people who haven't studied the law. You don't let random people give advice to e.g. surgeons during an open heart surgery either.

Thepenguinland

Brulafi