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Morocco mole wrote:She's fine too, thanks for asking. Next month will be our twentieth anniversary.

I'll let her know you asked after her.

Aww, that's so sweet. love that lasts

Kitty Hitler wrote:Aww, that's so sweet. love that lasts

She's my favorite, but don't tell her I said that. Officially, I love all my wives equally.

Gettenfeld

Morocco mole wrote:She's my favorite, but don't tell her I said that. Officially, I love all my wives equally.

And how is cindy and charlotte? I know polygamous marriages really aren't common in the west

Kitty Hitler wrote:And how is Cindy and Charlotte?

Not familiar with the ladies.

Gettenfeld

Lucius licinius gryllus

Ah..

Lucius licinius gryllus

Kitty Hitler wrote:We interrupt AgoRadio for an exclusive (and improvised) debate between the two Protergatis candidates. Here's your host; the Fur-er himself, Kitty Hitler!

Thanks Janis, I'd like to begin by stating that it hardly matters which of these two puppets you vote for. I'll be removing public elections soon enough......anyway let's get on with the spectacle.

I welcome both of our candidates, Lucius licinius gryllus and Morocco mole! how are you both feeling today?

Fine, thank you

Lucius licinius gryllus wrote:Fine, thank you

Shakes hands with Gryllus

(let's continue lol)

Lucius licinius gryllus wrote:Fine, thank you


Morocco mole wrote:I'm doing well, thank you. Looking forward to the discussion.

Good to hear that you're both doing fine Not that I cared either way

Gryllus, your opponent has been in the government ever since Agora first came into existence. So you're a bit of an outsider, the people want to know what you have planned, what is your vision and what can the people expect from you?

Lucius licinius gryllus

Lucius licinius gryllus

Morocco mole wrote:Shakes hands with Gryllus

returns handshake and salutes

Lucius licinius gryllus

Kitty Hitler wrote:(let's continue lol)

Good to hear that you're both doing fine Not that I cared either way

Gryllus, your opponent has been in the government ever since Agora first came into existence. So you're a bit of an outsider, the people want to know what you have planned, what is your vision and what can the people expect from you?

I believe it is a good thing to produce new blood in government. Outsiders often benefit their new homeland, after all. If you have the same person in office over and over again it becomes quite redundant and sometimes even regressive.
The people can expect subtle change, all for the betterment of the region, and an improved government and legislative body. As well as small social projects.

Lucius licinius gryllus wrote:I believe it is a good thing to produce new blood in government. Outsiders often benefit their new homeland, after all. If you have the same person in office over and over again it becomes quite redundant and sometimes even regressive.
The people can expect subtle change, all for the betterment of the region, and an improved government and legislative body. As well as small social projects.

I see, and Morocco mole, What do you have planned regarding the future of Agora? what's your vision?

Morocco mole

Kitty Hitler wrote:I see, and Morocco mole, What do you have planned regarding the future of Agora? what's your vision?

I'd like to see Agora grow organically and at a sustainable rate.

It has been my experience that the people who choose this region as a place to play would prefer that it not be a loud, chaotic echo-chamber for established ideologies, but rather a region of exuberant and continuously expanding quasi-utopian surrealism.

Sure we have a 'government', but that's merely an illusion we choose to share. We are a collection of fictitious nation/characters who often enjoy each others' comments and conversation.

My vision, the same one I share with my region-mates every day, is to have a safe place to call home on the internet. A place where my, admittedly idealistic, social and political beliefs can be put into practice in a small, simple experiment of human interaction. Amidst a much larger experiment, I remind you; NationStates is a rarity in this day and age, letting player-created content define the parameters of the role-play.

I may choose to express my values in a cartoonish way, but the under-lying values are real, complex and hard-learned.

Gettenfeld and Neutrality Foundation

Ok now, Gryllus you spoke of a lower legislative body known as The Areios pagos. This is quite ambitious, how do you think the people of Agora will react? also, mole what is your view on this new legislative body?

Morocco mole and Lucius licinius gryllus

Lucius licinius gryllus

Kitty Hitler wrote:Ok now, Gryllus you spoke of a lower legislative body known as The Areios pagos. This is quite ambitious, how do you think the people of Agora will react? also, mole what is your view on this new legislative body?

The areios pagos is Greek in origin. Its purpose will be to create legislation, upon order of the citizens and approval by the government. I'm certain the people of Agora, although skeptical, can see the value in having such a legislative body as it will support their interests as a community

Morocco mole

Kitty Hitler wrote:Gryllus you spoke of a lower legislative body known as The Areios Pagos. Mole, what is your view on this new legislative body?

As 'Nemonicus' my interests lay in the security of the actual region, though, as 'Mole' I am free to participate in regional politics as I see fit. And so far I've seen fit to let the rest of you create any government system you wish, as long as it doesn't interfere with the aforementioned security and 'vision'.

We have a regional administration and a city government. And we have the collected nations of Agora who meet in the 'plaza' to express their feelings. An official congress, with its attached bureaucratic procedures and other rigamarole, seems redundant and clumsy, given the current population size.

If my region-mate wishes to do the work involved in maintaining yet another political committee, as so many other regions have and without much imagination, I can only wish him the best of luck. I can predict little interest in the idea from the other residents..

Gettenfeld

Morocco mole wrote:As 'Nemonicus' my interests lay in the security of the actual region, though, as 'Mole' I am free to participate in regional politics as I see fit. And so far I've seen fit to let the rest of you create any government system you wish, as long as it doesn't interfere with the aforementioned security and 'vision'.

We have a regional administration and a city government. And we have the collected nations of Agora who meet in the 'plaza' to express their feelings. An official congress, with its attached bureaucratic procedures and other rigamarole, seems redundant and clumsy, given the current population size.

If my region-mate wishes to do the work involved in maintaining yet another political committee, as so many other regions have and without much imagination, I can only wish him the best of luck. I can predict little interest in the idea from the other residents..

hmm, and Gryllus how do you counter?

Kitty Hitler wrote:Ok now, Gryllus you spoke of a lower legislative body known as The Areios pagos. This is quite ambitious, how do you think the people of Agora will react? also, mole what is your view on this new legislative body?

Lucius licinius gryllus wrote:The areios pagos is Greek in origin. Its purpose will be to create legislation, upon order of the citizens and approval by the government. I'm certain the people of Agora, although skeptical, can see the value in having such a legislative body as it will support their interests as a community

I'd like to remind Lucius that we already have a lower legislative house: the Apella. Are you proposing a third house?

Lucius licinius gryllus

Kitty Hitler wrote:hmm, and Gryllus how do you counter?

Well, my plans do not require massive amounts of manpower, as my adversary claims. The areios pagos only needs a few people, at most. This is not a whole institution, rather, something to replace the worn out and horrifically inactive state of government here.

Gettenfeld, we'll be taking questions after the debate

Gettenfeld and Morocco mole

Lucius licinius gryllus

Gettenfeld wrote:I'd like to remind Lucius that we already have a lower legislative house: the Apella. Are you proposing a third house?

No it will replace the apella because I haven't seen the apella do a single thing. However the areios pagos is a flexible system and can conform to multiple assemblies, if necessary

Lucius licinius gryllus wrote:Well, my plans do not require massive amounts of manpower, as my adversary claims. The areios pagos only needs a few people, at most. This is not a whole institution, rather, something to replace the worn out and horrifically inactive state of government here.

Mole, would you argue that the government is worn out and has gone stagnant?

Lucy, indulging Gett was a stupid move. Don't repeat it. I don't want this RMB turning into a flame-war........not yet anyway

Morocco mole

Lucius licinius gryllus

Kitty Hitler wrote:Mole, would you argue that the government is worn out and has gone stagnant?

Lucy, indulging Gett was a stupid move. Don't repeat it. I don't want this RMB turning into a flame-war........not yet anyway

I wasn't aware this excluded everyone but mole and I. My apologies

Gettenfeld

Kitty Hitler wrote:Mole, would you argue that the government is worn out and has gone stagnant?

Smiles brightly

Quite the opposite. The fact that we rarely talk about our government, forget to hold elections, and openly mock the institutions without the region falling into anarchy is a testament to its efficiency. Our current government in so non-invasive, so un-obtrusive, that we frequently put it completely out of our minds as we go about our digital lives.

I'm very proud of that achievement; all of you should be - we did this together.

Gettenfeld, Iescech, and Neutrality Foundation

Morocco mole wrote:Smiles brightly

Quite the opposite. The fact that we rarely talk about our government, forget to hold elections, and openly mock the institutions without the region falling into anarchy is a testament to its efficiency. Our current government in so non-invasive, so un-obtrusive, that we frequently put it completely out of our minds as we go about our digital lives.

I'm very proud of that achievement; all of you should be - we did this together.

Gryllus, do you have a comment? if not we will move on to another topic to avoid running in circles

We have an 'Apella'? Cool.

See? I don't even know what's going on and I'm supposed to be in charge.

Now, that's an efficient system. It's been my experience that when something is working, don't fork with it.

Gettenfeld, Iescech, and Neutrality Foundation

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