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Skoalstraightius

Kylistan wrote:Hamas should offer terms for peace, but they never will because peace isn't their goal. They are committed to using terrorism and violence in order in order to destroy Israel.

Which is the real shame. Their lack of care for civilians is what has made me fully support Israel.

I don't blame Israel for not listening to terms if HG offered. Hamas sets up shop in crowded neighborhoods where civilian casualties will be high. Civilian deaths are a constant element in border wars, but firing rockets from schoolhouses like Hamas is doing makes me cringe.

The UN will step in eventually, but probably not in time. The way Israel is moving I wouldn't be surprised if mercy or peace terms are already thrown out the window.

Skoalstraightius wrote:Which is the real shame. Their lack of care for civilians is what has made me fully support Israel.

I don't blame Israel for not listening to terms if HG offered. Hamas sets up shop in crowded neighborhoods where civilian casualties will be high. Civilian deaths are a constant element in border wars, but firing rockets from schoolhouses like Hamas is doing makes me cringe.

Agreed. Israel tries to be as humane as possible in their retaliation even warning the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip of planned missile strikes by placing leaflets in their mailboxes encouraging them to evacuate, but Hamas encourages its civilians not to listen to the Israeli warnings and act essentially as human sacrifices in order to increase their civilian casualty count and get Israel negative media attention. Many of Hamas' methods are truly very disturbing.

I believe Israel is not any more innocent than Palestine. Israel just has better weapons

Both Israel and Palestine are to blame, but Palestine began the current conflict when those 3 Israeli teens were killed.

Patrasia wrote:Both Israel and Palestine are to blame, but Palestine began the current conflict when those 3 Israeli teens were killed.

It seems like the first strikes have always been coming from the Gaza Strip in recent history.

Yeah but has any on in israel died from these? No... Gaza launches a rockey at the border and kills no one or injures no one. In response israel calls for an airstrip that kills not than 100 innocent gaza civilians

*airstrike that kills more than 100 innocent gaza civilians

Le cruise wrote:Yeah but has any on in israel died from these? No... Gaza launches a rockey at the border and kills no one or injures no one. In response israel calls for an airstrip that kills not than 100 innocent gaza civilians

Gaza still attacked Israel, and Israel isn't going to let Gaza get away with it.

Some idiots attacked Isreal, not the whole nation. Theres a difference.

Conservative american people

Sorry i have been so inactive because I work 24/6 and only have 24 hours of the real world to do things like be on the internet.

So if you guys could fill me in that would be great. :)

Conservative american people wrote:Sorry i have been so inactive because I work 24/6 and only have 24 hours of the real world to do things like be on the internet.

So if you guys could fill me in that would be great. :)

We've taken a huge inactivity spike and are starting to recover from it. Right now, we're having a discussion/debate on the Israel-Gaza crisis.

Le cruise wrote:Yeah but has any on in israel died from these? No... Gaza launches a rockey at the border and kills no one or injures no one. In response israel calls for an airstrip that kills not than 100 innocent gaza civilians

There are Israelis that have been killed in this conflict, but the only reason there haven't been more deaths on Israel's side is because of their Iron Dome Missile Defense System that intercepts rockets headed towards highly populated areas. Regardless, if hundreds of rockets are being shot at your nation how can you justify not responding to the attack through some sort of military strike? You also need to understand that Israel does not target civilians in their retaliation strikes rather they target Hamas leaders and weapon storage sites. They actually warn citizens to leave areas where they are planning a strike, but Hamas tells those civilians not to leave in order to raise the Palestinian civilian death toll.

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hello everyone i'm new to the Region. I should have introduced myself in my first post but the Israel/Palestine debate took precedence. I'm looking forward to meeting you all

Francaden wrote:hello everyone i'm new to the Region. I should have introduced myself in my first post but the Israel/Palestine debate took precedence. I'm looking forward to meeting you all

Welcome to the region. We are glad to have you here.

Kylistan wrote:There are Israelis that have been killed in this conflict, but the only reason there haven't been more deaths on Israel's side is because of their Iron Dome Missile Defense System that intercepts rockets headed towards highly populated areas. Regardless, if hundreds of rockets are being shot at your nation how can you justify not responding to the attack through some sort of military strike? You also need to understand that Israel does not target civilians in their retaliation strikes rather they target Hamas leaders and weapon storage sites. They actually warn citizens to leave areas where they are planning a strike, but Hamas tells those civilians not to leave in order to raise the Palestinian civilian death toll.

I understand tho but I still dont think retaliating for casualties is the property way to go about this... im all for negotiation or nuking the region

Afro-west india

Le cruise wrote:I understand tho but I still dont think retaliating for casualties is the property way to go about this... im all for negotiation or nuking the region

Both sides are neither good or bad. It's that one side can adequately defend themselves, while the other are just firing blindly. The Israelis and the Palestinian need to sit down and learn how to coexist with one another. I wonder why the other Middle Eastern nations aren't speaking up about this crisis, especially Turkey, since they have NATO's second largest army.

wasn't it a turkish aid ship that the israelis borded and beat the crew a few years ago? that might be why

Francaden wrote:wasn't it a turkish aid ship that the israelis borded and beat the crew a few years ago? that might be why

If you're talking about the cause of the war, it's because 3 Israeli students went missing and were found dead, and it was revealed Palestinians killed them. Then, a Palestinian boy went missing and was killed by Israelis, sparking Gaza to fire on Israel. (I'm probably missing a lot of details here, and I don't have time to look everything up right now.)

Le cruise wrote:I understand tho but I still dont think retaliating for casualties is the property way to go about this... im all for negotiation or nuking the region

That's quite a wide... range of actions there...

not the cause of the war, the cause of why Turkey might not be helping israel

Francaden wrote:not the cause of the war, the cause of why Turkey might not be helping israel

Why would Turkey be helping Israel? Turkish-Israeli relations have been terrible since they deteriorated in 2009.

Afro-west india

Kylistan wrote:Why would Turkey be helping Israel? Turkish-Israeli relations have been terrible since they deteriorated in 2009.

I wouldn't say help, but could they be the regional power to stop the fiasco. They could come up with a non-biased peace deal.

Afro-west india wrote:I wouldn't say help, but could they be the regional power to stop the fiasco. They could come up with a non-biased peace deal.

Turkey isn't neutral in the conflict, so I doubt that they could come up with an unbiased peace deal, or that Israel would even sit down with the Palestinians with Turkey as the mediator. Turkey has in Israel's eyes "cooperated with Hamas and Iran", and they have certainly taken the side of the Palestinians since Recep Tayyip Erdoğan took over as the Turkish Prime Minister.

israel is the pariah of the region, foreigners who are opposed to everyone. they shouldn't really expect help

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