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Yup. Missed that one.

And if you weren't in Rhodesia, chances are, you missed a heated televised leaders debate last night between Prime Minister Steven Charlton and opposition leader David Milne.

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Nice report Rhodesia, sounds like the election is heating up.

Whilst we're on the topic of debates, what did you chaps think of the Clegg/Farrage debates?

United republic of st george

Very interesting, I support Farrage, but I don't like the fact he supports Russia and that he said he wanted to have trade agreements with China and Japan.

It's the battle for third. It's quite depressing. Neither is a good speaker, and both are extremists.

United republic of st george wrote:Very interesting, I support Farrage, but I don't like the fact he supports Russia and that he said he wanted to have trade agreements with China and Japan.

Why don't you want trade agreements with China and Japan?

Grandkirche wrote:It's the battle for third. It's quite depressing. Neither is a good speaker, and both are extremists.

I think Farage is a good speaker actually, well certainly the best of the leaders of the big parties.

I prefer our nice Mr Cameron. He speaks like a gentleman, Farage like a Publican.

I admire Farage's plain speaking. He doesn't give half answers and he always has a well thought out argument. Meanwhile Clegg is the very epitome of a double-speaker.

That said, at a general election, I'm likely to vote Conservative as a vote for UKIP is a vote (indirectly) for Labour and that God-awful Miliband.

As for European elections, I'm likely to vote Conservative but I'm considering voting UKIP as a message for Cameron: I want out. Also, UKIP came within 13,000 votes of taking the North East's third European parliamentary seat in 2004, currently held by a Lib Dem. given their likely to be severely punished at the polls in the run up to 2015, I'm tempted to lend that extra vote to UKIP.

The UKIP MEPs though don't justify being there. If they actively obstructed that would be doing something. Instead they just enjoy the perks and then bang on about how dreadful it is, whilst milking it. The Conservative ones will actually try and get things out of Europe for the voters, not just themselves.

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United republic of st george

Kingdinium wrote:Why don't you want trade agreements with China and Japan?

I think Farage is a good speaker actually, well certainly the best of the leaders of the big parties.

Selling off Britain's economy, especially to nations on the other side of the planet isn't the way to go. The commonwealth nations should be the ones who we should trade with. They have high standards, some better than our own, and they are nowhere near as corrupt as China.

United republic of st george wrote:Selling off Britain's economy, especially to nations on the other side of the planet isn't the way to go. The commonwealth nations should be the ones who we should trade with. They have high standards, some better than our own, and they are nowhere near as corrupt as China.

Hear hear.

Grandkirche wrote:The UKIP MEPs though don't justify being there. If they actively obstructed that would be doing something. Instead they just enjoy the perks and then bang on about how dreadful it is, whilst milking it. The Conservative ones will actually try and get things out of Europe for the voters, not just themselves.

There's many a Eurosceptic MEP living off the perks and moaning about the job. Farage is well known for not being present in the European Parliament because he believes it would be hypocritical to oppose something but still draw the benefits. He only attends to vote against measures expanding the EU's powers.

However, that said, the argument that the Conservatives can get more out of the EU is a mute point when you want to be out altogether. I don't want favourable terms to stay in, I want out. The Conservatives, Labour and the Liberal Democrats are all, for the most part, pro-EU when all is said and done, even if quietly so and with notable Eurosceptic wings.

I believe the single best option is an in/out referendum. Of course, to get that two things have to happen: 1) the Tories need a majority and 2) we have to trust Cameron will keep his word. I imagine under such circumstances, public pressure would force him to keep his word but if left to his own devices I honestly think he wouldn't go through with a referendum.

Prime Minister Steven Charlton and Opposition Leader David Milne are preparing to face off in tomorrow's final leaders debate.

It will be both men's last chance to make their case to the voters with Milne having a lot of ground to make up.

A uSay poll conducted for STV Newsweek puts Charlton's National on 50% (up 3), Milne's Labour on 29% (down 4), the Country Party on 8% (n/c) with the Democrats, others and various African nationalist parties on 13% between them.

If the numbers were to prove typical across all electorates, then Charlton would look set to win comfortably with between 75 and 85 seats, down slightly on their current seats; Labour between 55 and 65 seats, a slight increase and the Country Party and African nationalists making little impact.

Rhodesia wrote:Prime Minister Steven Charlton and Opposition Leader David Milne are preparing to face off in tomorrow's final leaders debate.

It will be both men's last chance to make their case to the voters with Milne having a lot of ground to make up.

A uSay poll conducted for STV Newsweek puts Charlton's National on 50% (up 3), Milne's Labour on 29% (down 4), the Country Party on 8% (n/c) with the Democrats, others and various African nationalist parties on 13% between them.

If the numbers were to prove typical across all electorates, then Charlton would look set to win comfortably with between 75 and 85 seats, down slightly on their current seats; Labour between 55 and 65 seats, a slight increase and the Country Party and African nationalists making little impact.

Milne's alleged marital infidelities may further derail his campaign, as may his reported abuse of public spending and the discovery of a video clip, apparently of a 17-year-old Milne, in which he seems to rest his hand on a thesaurus and pledge allegiance to Satan.

I imagine that won't help his campaign, New Jut!

However, Milne did manage to claw some semblance back in last night's debate, appearing less focused on statistics and more direct in his answers. Whilst the studio audience again deemed Charlton to have won, Milne had significantly closed the gap between the two men:
• Charlton had better argument: 55%
• Milne had better argument: 39%
• Neither made a satisfactory argument: 6%

A RhoPoll survey published by its sister news site, Rho2day, showed that Labour has undone the damage from the previous debate but still have some way to go, latest:
• National: 44%
• Labour: 36%
• Country: 9%
• Others: 11%

Rhodesia wrote:I imagine that won't help his campaign, New Jut!

However, Milne did manage to claw some semblance back in last night's debate, appearing less focused on statistics and more direct in his answers. Whilst the studio audience again deemed Charlton to have won, Milne had significantly closed the gap between the two men:
• Charlton had better argument: 55%
• Milne had better argument: 39%
• Neither made a satisfactory argument: 6%

A RhoPoll survey published by its sister news site, Rho2day, showed that Labour has undone the damage from the previous debate but still have some way to go, latest:
• National: 44%
• Labour: 36%
• Country: 9%
• Others: 11%

Get 'em Charlton!

The latest poll of polls:
National - 47% (+3)
Labour - 33% (-2)
Country - 11% (+1)
Others - 8% (-2)

Poll of polls, leaders:
Charlton - 58% (+1)
Milne - 34% (+2)
Neither/other: 10% (-3)

No poll of polls available for seats as yet.

The latest seat calculations are in, based on a 'universal swing' drawn from polls conducted by the IPA in 10 key marginal seats. The results (and changes from last election) are below:
• National - 80 (-6)
• Labour - 60 (+5)
• Country - 2 (+2)
• Others - 6 (+4)*

*Includes African nationalist parties and independents.

Rhodesia wrote:The latest seat calculations are in, based on a 'universal swing' drawn from polls conducted by the IPA in 10 key marginal seats. The results (and changes from last election) are below:
� National - 80 (-6)
� Labour - 60 (+5)
� Country - 2 (+2)
� Others - 6 (+4)*

*Includes African nationalist parties and independents.

Looks like a fairly substantial victory for the Nationals, even if it is slightly less than last election.

From the Daily News:
"Milne Should Mark Milestone"
page=dispatch/id=244972

Commonwealth of columbia

Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low!

Commonwealth of columbia wrote:Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low!

Through the streets in my kilt I'll go!

Is that an actual song or your holiday plans?

United republic of st george

I made a quiz guys- http://gotoquiz.com/J2u6R

United republic of st george

Happy St George's day everyone!

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