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Graag brom

The islands of versilia wrote:“How to survive in Great Mann - for dummies”

I do not see him going in excess. At most he’d what 3 but that’s because there’s 3 big clans I think, plus anything more than that is absolutely ridiculous with no benefit to anyone. Even 3 is a stretch but I have... reasons.

Antiochan?

Correct.

They’re inevitable. He’ll just brush it off, or end up getting dragged into the water suddenly while out on a walk around the gardens by his wife to take his mind off it.

(Hehe.)
(In reference to Emperor Antiochus I Septim, a ruler quite infamous for his hedonism, infidelity, and "appetites." Ended up causing War of the Red Diamond to break out after his death due to doubts about Empress-to-be Kintyra II's legitimacy, combined with Potema's scheming it was a crisis waiting to happen.
Fun Fact:Dino's youngest grandson has had the dubious honor of being called "Antiochus II" on occasion.)
(Second sounds like a far better method, plus stress relief.)

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Graag brom wrote:(Hehe.)
(In reference to Emperor Antiochus I Septim, a ruler quite infamous for his hedonism, infidelity, and "appetites." Ended up causing War of the Red Diamond to break out after his death due to doubts about Empress Kintyra II's legitimacy.
Fun Fact:Dino's youngest grandson has had the dubious honor of being called "Antiochus II" on occasion.)
(Second sounds like a far better method, plus stress relief.)

Ah. He won’t be like that, heavens no. He’s a responsible man.

It's quite a wholesome image. It is a better stress relief than some methods and oddly fitting with the Merish nature of his wives. I can imagine Dino would find the newspaper photo rather funny.

Graag brom

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What circumstances or factors would influence how Merfolk marriage works? Monogamy seems the most ‘civilised’ so it’s probably more common with the more pampered Merfolk inland while in the sea the Merfolk probably have a higher mortality rate and thus males are in relatively short supply, felicitating the multi-partnerships.

The marriages are also politically necessary at times so the king being close to the clans through multiple marriages could be a way of reassuring the Merfolk of the monarch’s attentions.

I can imagine the king being influenced by the independent and hardy mindset of the Seakin Merfolk, so they’d likely appreciate that - in their own ways.

>TFW the king was napped after a meeting with the clans because his wives wanted to show him some pretty fishies

Graag brom and Foxfound

Graag brom

The islands of versilia wrote:What circumstances or factors would influence how Merfolk marriage works? Monogamy seems the most ‘civilised’ so it’s probably more common with the more pampered Merfolk inland while in the sea the Merfolk probably have a higher mortality rate and thus males are in relatively short supply, felicitating the multi-partnerships.

The marriages are also politically necessary at times so the king being close to the clans through multiple marriages could be a way of reassuring the Merfolk of the monarch’s attentions.

I can imagine the king being influenced by the independent and hardy mindset of the Seakin Merfolk, so they’d likely appreciate that - in their own ways.

>TFW the king was napped after a meeting with the clans because his wives wanted to show him some pretty fishies

(Makes sense. Do the Seakin tend towards large multi-generational households, or are men traditionally required to set up their own households for their wives and eventual kids when they marry? I'd expect the former from what I've seen of social sea animals, but maybe not with that independent mindset and this could possibly impact the dynamics of who's expected to mainly provide for the family.)
(*When consorts act as negotiators for their clans in a sense... Seems to have worked so far.*)
(I imagine one Thedish king getting to the point they felt more in common with Seakin than their own human subjects.)
(*Wonders if he was looking at pretty fishies they intended or the pretty "fishies" that 'napped him.*)

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Graag brom wrote:(Makes sense. Do the Seakin tend towards large multi-generational households, or are men traditionally required to set up their own households for their wives and eventual kids when they marry? I'd expect the former from what I've seen of social sea animals, but maybe not with that independent mindset and this could possibly impact the dynamics of who's expected to mainly provide for the family.)

(*When consorts act as negotiators for their clans in a sense... Seems to have worked so far.*)

(I imagine one Thedish king getting to the point they felt more in common with Seakin than their own human subjects.)

(*Wonders if he was looking at pretty fishies they intended or the pretty "fishies" that 'napped him.*)

Males and females are more egalitarian within Merish society than what was traditional in human ones. Both hunt and provide, though the specifics depend upon the local ecosystems, flora and fauna, and the personal preferences of the household. I agree with you on the multi-generational household idea BTW. Historically and even today amongst Seakin most have multi-generational households for practical and survival purposes while those inland stay together like so for environmental sustainability. In the case of the kings, they’re expected to set up their household appropriately for their wives and offspring. However they still have close contact with their wives’ relatives. Power dynamics and degrees of which within the household vary from clan to clan, and though the matriarchs are the traditional clan leaders. Within the royal household it’s more human, though the status and powers of the wives are acknowledged and respected. So the king isn’t treated any better than his wives when around other Merfolk.

Yes, it does seem to be an effective system in theory. This contract isn’t exclusive to Merfolk, it’s also present between humans and fairfolk, or other native races within Great Mann. If there are vampires, then kings married vampires as well. I’m now realising that this monster girl harem is turning into “unification through marriage” but it’s funny.

I wouldn’t doubt that one king in the past felt like that, either with Merfolk or with another kind. Each of the kings married differently, and their descendants are testament to that.

Lol, is that even debatable? He’s smitten with them, with love for them being completely genuine and passionate. The fact he puts up with going into the sea is proof enough. Of course he looked at what they wanted to show him and appreciated it, but he’s content with what he’s found.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Foxfound

Graag brom

The islands of versilia wrote:Males and females are more egalitarian within Merish society than what was traditional in human ones. Both hunt and provide, though the specifics depend upon the local ecosystems, flora and fauna, and the personal preferences of the household. I agree with you on the multi-generational household idea BTW. Historically and even today amongst Seakin most have multi-generational households for practical and survival purposes while those inland stay together like so for environmental sustainability. In the case of the kings, they’re expected to set up their household appropriately for their wives and offspring. However they still have close contact with their wives’ relatives. Power dynamics and degrees of which within the household vary from clan to clan, and though the matriarchs are the traditional clan leaders. Within the royal household it’s more human, though the status and powers of the wives are acknowledged and respected. So the king isn’t treated any better than his wives when around other Merfolk.

Yes, it does seem to be an effective system in theory. This contract isn’t exclusive to Merfolk, it’s also present between humans and fairfolk, or other native races within Great Mann. If there are vampires, then kings married vampires as well. I’m now realising that this monster girl harem is turning into “unification through marriage” but it’s funny.

I wouldn’t doubt that one king in the past felt like that, either with Merfolk or with another kind. Each of the kings married differently, and their descendants are testament to that.

Lol, is that even debatable? He’s smitten with them, with love for them being completely genuine and passionate. The fact he puts up with going into the sea is proof enough. Of course he looked at what they wanted to show him and appreciated it, but he’s content with what he’s found.

(Interesting and sounds about right, also I find that last bit quite the nice dose of humility for the throne.)
(Heh, well it's not an unprecedented idea historically in cultures that practice[d] polygny. Do the King's in-laws and/or relatives still have armies, or is he the only one with one?)
(*Now wondering if their royalty are their own equivalent of Bretons with how thoroughly interbred they probably are.*)
(I wasn't in doubt of the answer, forget how poor text is for transmitting that kind of sarcasm.)

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Graag brom wrote:(Interesting and sounds about right, also I find that last bit quite the nice dose of humility for the throne.)

(Heh, well it's not an unprecedented idea historically. Do the King's in-laws and/or relatives still have armies, or is he the only one with one?)

(*Now wondering if their royalty are their own equivalent of Bretons with how thoroughly interbred they probably are.*)

(I wasn't in doubt of the answer, forget how poor text is for transmitting that kind of sarcasm.)

Aye. Absolutism was never part of Thedish society, at least not for long. The Seakin live harsher lives than their inland kin, so they aren’t as obsessed with titles or fancy living. Also, related: “Mother, I wish to marry the king.”
“Darling, he isn’t good enough for you.”
“But, mot-“
“Ask again when he’s killed a shark.”
“...”

Only the state maintains any modern fighting force. There are likely ceremonial units or such but nothing actually military. The standing army swears fealty to the king and the nation, including their respective folks. Certain folks are free to hunt as they have for centuries so long they help maintain sustainability so they don’t have need for armies.

It is quite likely, though marriage wasn’t decided by blood ties exclusively. I know it’s a modern case but the current king met his first wife accidentally and their relationship blossomed naturally rather than being at all arranged.

Ah, hahaha. Yeah, I should’ve expected that. Well, yes, the king is very much in love still and does his best for his relationships with those he loves while managing his other royal duties.

Graag brom and Foxfound

(Following new legislation in Elfland, the "Underwear of Women in Power" issue of the Umbworldheadstead Féerique Times is sold out.)

Graag brom and Elfland

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Wobbegong wrote:(Following new legislation in Elfland, the "Underwear of Women in Power" issue of the Umbworldheadstead Féerique Times is sold out.)

It’s a trap to draw in their prey. Like carnivorous plants.

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Elfland

The islands of versilia

Does anyone have any suggestions for naming patterns amongst the Merfolk, Fairfolk and potentially others like vampires. From my surface level research, English folklore were normally named with a normal first name and a descriptive second name. Jenny Greenteeth or Nelly Longarms, for example.

Voci has names always with the Elf- and -elf prefix and suffix, so I don’t want to intrude on that.

Why do I have the feeling that His Majesty sometimes sleeps wearing a wetsuit?

Graag brom and Foxfound

(Amadleka is the reason I can never find any banana pudding ice cream at Publix.)

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Elfland

Graag brom

The islands of versilia wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions for naming patterns amongst the Merfolk, Fairfolk and potentially others like vampires. From my surface level research, English folklore were normally named with a normal first name and a descriptive second name. Jenny Greenteeth or Nelly Longarms, for example.

Voci has names always with the Elf- and -elf prefix and suffix, so I don’t want to intrude on that.

Why do I have the feeling that His Majesty sometimes sleeps wearing a wetsuit?

(That sounds good. I think Orsimer outside Strongholds traditionally have it where their surnames are Gro-[Father's name] or Gra-[Mother's name] depending on if they're a man or woman. Orsimer in Strongholds don't really use surnames, far as I know, but if they'd need it for documentation purposes or leave the stronghold they'd probably use Gro-/Gra-[Insert part or all of stronghold name here].
I.E Dino's original last name should be Gro-Mogrul, but it's Gro-Aglakh [Aglakh would be the name of his grandfather] because I didn't know any better writing it and it sticks too well in my head. If a theoretical Dinasia situation occurred, it'd be Gra-Agazu.

Suggestion for Merfolk names:Personal/first name, 'middle' name[s] if any, matronymic name, perhaps a descriptive or awarded name, maybe or maybe not a more immediate family name depending on how they view that, and clan name.)

(I'd guess to make sure his regular clothes have a chance to remain dry, just in case he falls asleep in water with one or more of his wives or he ends up getting drenched in the process of waking up?)

Foxfound wrote:(Amadleka is the reason I can never find any banana pudding ice cream at Publix.)

(Dang vampiric clone goblin, she's also the reason all the cheese danishes disappear when my dad gets them! Mom keeps pinning it on the dog, but I know better...)

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Graag brom wrote:(That sounds good. I think Orsimer outside Strongholds traditionally have it where their surnames are Gro-[Father's name] or Gra-[Mother's name] depending on if they're a man or woman. Orsimer in Strongholds don't really use surnames, far as I know, but if they'd need it for documentation purposes or leave the stronghold they'd probably use Gro-/Gra-[Insert part or all of stronghold name here].
I.E Dino's original last name should be Gro-Mogrul, but it's Gro-Aglakh [Aglakh would be the name of his grandfather] because I didn't know any better writing it and it sticks too well in my head. If a theoretical Dinasia situation occurred, it'd be Gra-Agazu.

Suggestion for Merfolk names:Personal/first name, 'middle' name[s] if any, matronymic name, perhaps a descriptive or awarded name, maybe or maybe not a more immediate family name depending on how they view that, and clan name.)

(I'd guess to make sure his regular clothes have a chance to remain dry, just in case he falls asleep in water with one or more of his wives or he ends up getting drenched in the process of waking up?)

So it might be [forename] [awarded] [matronymic]? Or [forename] [aftername] [awarded]? An example of the latter might be Tortsey Deepden Hayewye (Torhtsige Dēopdena Hagewige). Though this kind of naming might be needing of development. I reckon clan names and all would be unnecessary because the low populations don’t really require it.

I would think all three of those are answers. Especially the second one. Man's so smitten he sleeps next to water lmao.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Foxfound

{The Rike of Mann should be located on Bresail.}

Graag brom

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Elfland wrote:{The Rike of Mann should be located on Bresail.}

Oh? Potentially lol.

Graag brom and Elfland

Yeet

Graag brom, Elfland, and Foxfound

Great mann wrote:Yeet

(Oh no the Random Sea Event is here.)

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Elfland

Foxfound wrote:(Oh no the Random Sea Event is here.)

It is here.

Graag brom, Elfland, and Foxfound

Link

Nation

Name

Location

Elfland

Greater Elvish Riche

Atlantis, Antarctica

UIJ

United Islands of Jeon

Previously West Africa

New pyandonea

New Pyandonea

Southern United States, Gulf Coast

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Álfaveldið Værsland

Ákelsland

Haja-mishu

Shuraya

Lemuria

Foxfound

Kitsune Nation of Ketorushima

Kotelny Island

Wobbegong

Neo-Bailiwick

Anatolia and Western Thrace

The restored danelaw

Anglo-Danish Kingdom

England, Isle of Man, BOTs

Leidenschaftliche

Leidenschaftliche

Far East, Northern Australia

Terra Insula, also known as Malebolge by some or Moy by the Elves, is the third planet from its local star and able to sustain diverse life. The planet itself, and possibly the entire solar system by extension, is believed to have been the creation of Azavir, the Killer Star, an extremely powerful and incredably complex galaxy-sized entity who himself is the creator of the highly evolved Ha’Hosh alien species. There is speculation that Malebolge is perhaps a sanctuary world established by the Ha’Hosh to house rare and exotic forms of intergalactic and potentially interdimensional life.

At some point in the recent past, an unexplained event known by many names between the different species of Malebolge, including; the Conjunction, Warp, Planetary Alignment, or the Tosamecome occurred, and brought the innumerable number of various cultures and species to the planet that exist on there today from various dimensions and planets across time and space. Consequently, each of these groups have drastically different levels of technological advancement, magical power, and military capability, with even a small number even retaining access to their progenitor universe. Immediately and Age of Exploration and imperialism initiated to settle the rest of the wild planet. As countries and national boundaries slowly form across the planet, political tensions are becoming increasingly heated and the potential for conflict grows as well.

Read dispatch

I present my most humble proposal for a regional map. The hardest parts of the process are over, I hope, I if everyone like it I can add people's land requests.

Wobbegong, Graag brom, Foxfound, and Great mann

Elfland wrote:
Link

Nation

Name

Location

Elfland

Greater Elvish Riche

Atlantis, Antarctica

UIJ

United Islands of Jeon

Previously West Africa

New pyandonea

New Pyandonea

Southern United States, Gulf Coast

The islands of versilia

Álfaveldið Værsland

Ákelsland

Haja-mishu

Shuraya

Lemuria

Foxfound

Kitsune Nation of Ketorushima

Kotelny Island

Wobbegong

Neo-Bailiwick

Anatolia and Western Thrace

The restored danelaw

Anglo-Danish Kingdom

England, Isle of Man, BOTs

Leidenschaftliche

Leidenschaftliche

Far East, Northern Australia

Terra Insula, also known as Malebolge by some or Moy by the Elves, is the third planet from its local star and able to sustain diverse life. The planet itself, and possibly the entire solar system by extension, is believed to have been the creation of Azavir, the Killer Star, an extremely powerful and incredably complex galaxy-sized entity who himself is the creator of the highly evolved Ha’Hosh alien species. There is speculation that Malebolge is perhaps a sanctuary world established by the Ha’Hosh to house rare and exotic forms of intergalactic and potentially interdimensional life.

At some point in the recent past, an unexplained event known by many names between the different species of Malebolge, including; the Conjunction, Warp, Planetary Alignment, or the Tosamecome occurred, and brought the innumerable number of various cultures and species to the planet that exist on there today from various dimensions and planets across time and space. Consequently, each of these groups have drastically different levels of technological advancement, magical power, and military capability, with even a small number even retaining access to their progenitor universe. Immediately and Age of Exploration and imperialism initiated to settle the rest of the wild planet. As countries and national boundaries slowly form across the planet, political tensions are becoming increasingly heated and the potential for conflict grows as well.

Read dispatch

I present my most humble proposal for a regional map. The hardest parts of the process are over, I hope, I if everyone like it I can add people's land requests.

Mate, that’s seriously the monkey’s eyebrows. I love it. Very well done.

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Elfland

Graag brom

Elfland wrote:
Link

Nation

Name

Location

Elfland

Greater Elvish Riche

Atlantis, Antarctica

UIJ

United Islands of Jeon

Previously West Africa

New pyandonea

New Pyandonea

Southern United States, Gulf Coast

The islands of versilia

Álfaveldið Værsland

Ákelsland

Haja-mishu

Shuraya

Lemuria

Foxfound

Kitsune Nation of Ketorushima

Kotelny Island

Wobbegong

Neo-Bailiwick

Anatolia and Western Thrace

The restored danelaw

Anglo-Danish Kingdom

England, Isle of Man, BOTs

Leidenschaftliche

Leidenschaftliche

Far East, Northern Australia

Terra Insula, also known as Malebolge by some or Moy by the Elves, is the third planet from its local star and able to sustain diverse life. The planet itself, and possibly the entire solar system by extension, is believed to have been the creation of Azavir, the Killer Star, an extremely powerful and incredably complex galaxy-sized entity who himself is the creator of the highly evolved Ha’Hosh alien species. There is speculation that Malebolge is perhaps a sanctuary world established by the Ha’Hosh to house rare and exotic forms of intergalactic and potentially interdimensional life.

At some point in the recent past, an unexplained event known by many names between the different species of Malebolge, including; the Conjunction, Warp, Planetary Alignment, or the Tosamecome occurred, and brought the innumerable number of various cultures and species to the planet that exist on there today from various dimensions and planets across time and space. Consequently, each of these groups have drastically different levels of technological advancement, magical power, and military capability, with even a small number even retaining access to their progenitor universe. Immediately and Age of Exploration and imperialism initiated to settle the rest of the wild planet. As countries and national boundaries slowly form across the planet, political tensions are becoming increasingly heated and the potential for conflict grows as well.

Read dispatch

I present my most humble proposal for a regional map. The hardest parts of the process are over, I hope, I if everyone like it I can add people's land requests.

(By Ysmir's beard... *Ahem* Bellow's what I claimed on the last map or the one before that for what would now be New Pyandonea, not sure as it's been awhile. BTW how much could I throw on top of that? I imagine New Pyandonea also including most of the southeastern US and eastern coast of Mexico, but not sure if that'd make it too big or not.)

Graag brom wrote:(I'd like Texas and Oklahoma along with the Mexican states of Nuevo Leon, Coahuila, and Tamaulipas, please.)

Ælfland be lookin’ pretty thicc

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Elfland

Graag brom wrote:(By Ysmir's beard... *Ahem* Bellow's what I claimed on the last map or the one before that for what would now be New Pyandonea, not sure as it's been awhile. BTW how much could I throw on top of that? I imagine New Pyandonea also including most of the southeastern US and eastern coast of Mexico, but not sure if that'd make it too big or not.)

I'm glad you like the map. I don't think you're request is too big but that might not be up to me. And if it is too big I will literally sink half of the US to make it not too big.

Wobbegong and Graag brom

Elfland wrote:I'm glad you like the map. I don't think you're request is too big but that might not be up to me. And if it is too big I will literally sink half of the US to make it not too big.

I was thinking about some of the British Isles for me but I saw the land border and my paranoia kicked in lol.

Wobbegong, Graag brom, and Elfland

Great mann wrote:I was thinking about some of the British Isles for me but I saw the land border and my paranoia kicked in lol.

Britain too OP as an island so I nerfed it, sorry.

Wobbegong and Graag brom

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