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i accidentally stole an onion from the grocery store
this is the only crime in canada besides moose activities
Definitely the latter - the ''Baby Hitler'' moral conundrum is a false trolley problem
Hitler's life or death before WWI would have no ultimate influence on the outcome of the war, or its peace - and if a man named Hitler had not existed in its wake to transform Germany into a revanchist dictatorship, then another German by another name would have risen to fill that niche - Weimar democracy was doomed from its inception, and was destined to become a right-wing dictatorship either way.
Lendenburgh and Helensted
Even the notions exposited by Hitler in Mein Kampf, in relation to Germany's 'national destiny' to conquer the East had existed in some form or another in Germany since the 14th Century and the creation of the Teutonic Crusader State in East Prussia, which proceeded to almost immediately invent the concept of 'Hereditary Paganism' to justify its wars against fellow Catholic nations like Poland and Lithuania, ignoring entirely the fact that the Christianisation of Poland occurred only two Centuries after the Christianisation of Germany proper, and roughly during the same period of time as the Christianisation of Scandinavia proper.
To say nothing of the fact that notions of racialism and anti-semitism that are peculiar to Germany, namely in Volkische ideology, long preceded Hitler's synthesis of them into its most visible and historically significant form, National Socialism.
tl;dr ''Would you kill baby Hitler'' is only appropriate as a morality test upon the historically ignorant, and can better be boiled down into the form;
''Would you kill a baby for the sake of utilitarianism?''
In which case, I would counter,
''He who saves one life, saves the world entire.''
absolutely based
abandon kant and util, return to virtue ethics
An individual who's relationship to morality is presupposed on its utility to, and perception by, wider society, will never truly be moral.
An individual who's relationship to morality is presupposed upon their own relationship with good and evil, and the notion of personal responsibility to be moral, has infinite capacity to be moral.
''Imagine you are a devout Catholic and live in a small, mountain village. It is snowing, it is cold. Your home—just a bedroom, a main room, and a kitchen—is heated by a wood stove. You share your home with two other adults, both family. War is raging around you. Day and night you are likely to hear shelling. Food is scarce. More than one home in your town has been torched, the inhabitants inside burned alive, for hiding Jews or partisans.
Imagine there is a knock at your door at nightfall. It is dark when you open the door. Ushered into your home is a scared, young child. There is blood on his clothing. You know he is Jewish. What would you do? And after you decide to keep him, what then? Here I concentrate only on one aspect of my somewhat paradoxical and miraculous survival, and this has to do with the people and with the location.
The day after I arrived, Jozef and Paulina sat me down to teach me my new identity. I had a new name, I had a new family, and they also taught me to memorize a set of sentences. They started with “Ochenasknonabi....” We practiced the sentences until I could recite them by heart as though I had known them throughout all my young life. They instructed me to recite them if asked to do so by the Ukrainians (who fought on the side of the Germans), the Germans, the Guardists (members of the Slovak Fascist Hlinka Guards), or anybody else for that matter. They gave the blurb a name—a name that made no sense to me—but I did memorize the sentences, which were just an unintelligible garble to me.
I do not remember if I had to recite them ever alone or only as a part of a group of children, but I knew them well. What were these sentences? And why were they so important of all things, that teaching them to me was the first course of action upon welcoming me into my new home and my new reality?
The Holocaust ended. Years passed. I went to school. I studied: math, languages, science, world religion. I was in the army. I married and created a new family. From time to time I would come face to face with an echo from my past. I repressed them. Conversely, from time to time I would come across a passage or person that I knew that I had seen before. I knew that it was familiar. I searched my memory, my knowledge, and my past—all in vain. I did not find it. The failure to identify what I sought to remember tormented me for a while. Slowly, it faded—other interests, other worries filled my mind. I can’t honestly say that I dwelled upon the lines taught to me so long ago in the small, snowy village by people who loved and cared for me.
More years passed and I moved my family to the United States. Slovakia became independent and appointed an ambassador to the United States. He tried to rally support for Slovakia and got a list of all the residents of the Washington, DC, metropolitan area and its environs who he considered to be Slovak. Suddenly, for the ambassador at least, Dean Prof. Dr. Frieder was transformed: He was no longer the stinking Jew he had been considered while actually living in Slovakia; he was now a respected Slovak.
I was invited to a reception in the embassy. I hesitated, as I had never identified as a Slovak, and the new Slovak flag is almost identical to the old Fascist flag. Eventually I went there—my curiosity got the better of me and compensated for my aversion to anything Slovak.
Slovakia is 85 percent Catholic, so it was not surprising that the reception opened with a short prayer of thanks recited by a Slovak Catholic priest, in Slovak:
Otce náš, ktorý si na nebesiach,
posvät’ sa meno tvoje.
Príd’ král’ovstvo tvoje.
Bud’ vôl’a tvoja
ako v nebi tak i na zemi.
Chlieb náš každodenný daj nám dnes.
A odpust’ nám naše viny,
ako aj my odpúšt’ame svojim vinníkom.
A neuved’ nás do pokušenia,
ale zbav nás zlého.
Lebo tvoje je král’ovstvo, moc i sláva teraz i vždycky i na veky vekov. Amen.
The first words caught my attention. The closing words seemed familiar and disturbing. I mulled. I contemplated until suddenly, like a blinding lightning strike, the words hit me. This was the blurb that Jozef and Paulina had taught me, the meaningless set of slurred words. Except now, they were clearly enunciated. I approached the priest and casually inquired after the prayer he had recited. It was the Lord’s Prayer, he told me.
I went home and opened the New Testament—in my case, in Hebrew. Here it was. What I was reading was the Lord’s Prayer, its words clear, its sentences well phrased: “Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be Thy name1” (Yitkadal V Yitkadash Shmei Raba 2).
Our Father, clearly stated, not slurred as in, possibly, “ourather.” Our Father, in the language of the country, even back then when the Mass was recited in Latin. Our Father, probably one of the only two prayers known by Jozef and Paulina, these wonderful, ignorant, intelligent, primitive, yet full with the knowledge of life angels. Our Father...Thy kingdom come (Avinu Malkenu3)—arguably the most Jewish part of the Christian liturgy. They taught me the prayer the way they knew it, instinctively, slurred, without parsing it. It was a mantra that identified children who should live, and the lack of it would kill. It was a mantra demanded by the murderers from the children they met—and those who did not know it did not survive. It was the shield by which Jozef and Paulina protected me from the evil— not only because they knew that I needed it, but also because they were professing what they believed in. That faith, personified for them by the Lord’s Prayer and by the Hail Mary, was a necessary shield in those dark times. It sustained them as they prayed every night before the picture of the heart of Jesus that they’d hung on every wall in their hut, and it was the reason that they and their fellow inhabitants of that hamlet saved numerous lives. In a country where the president, who was a Catholic priest, paid the Germans to kill the Jews, these true humanitarians taught the Lord’s Prayer to save a Jewish child. ''
A Utilitarian would have thought it better to protect their family from possible retribution for sheltering a Jew, than to have saved the life of Dr. Frieder
Everything changed when the fire nation attacked
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism
*Sociology 101 flashbacks intensify*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qikrYBd4tw
I think you might hate this book so you should watch this video
Summarize for my monkey brain. What this?
It's coming from continental philosophy where kinda the dominant theme of the 20th century was 'discipline' and raw power dynamics,
Comparable to like... liberalism in politics and behaviorism in psychology (rules-based order, environmental input -> behavioral output, etc.)
The author is basically saying we've flipped the script and even though we're more focused on relativism, 'acheivement', and rewards psychology, it's still causing problems- his big argument is that increasing diagnoses of ADHD, Depression, anxiety, and OCD- kinda anything in that neighborhood of not-personality disorders and not-divorced entirely from reality like a psychosis or schizophrenia-is partially the result of a society that's demanding increased attention, external performances of happiness and 'put togetherness' and especially increased demand for acheivements
The crux of it being that we don't even have to be threatened to do things we don't want to anymore, because we 'want' to do things that society tells us are useful despite being too exhausted/overburdened to really handle it, so we drive ourselves into 'burnout'
And, to clarify, the way I understand it he isn't dismissing 'actual' ADHD/depression/anxiety, he's just saying that the symptoms of these overlap with symptoms of modern society in worrying ways, which has lead to over-diagnosis/inaccurate diagnosis (but in the sense that the problems experienced/symptoms are real, just that they aren't truly caused by a biomedical problem)
LMAO! How did I miss all this? But yes, I am the current foreign minister of the Liberty Democratic Alliance and I log into the JEFF Founder account sometimes.
Edit: I meant to post this to JEFF the region but oh well :p
then it would still be...an accurate diagnosis then?
Symptoms of depression and anxiety caused by this 'burn-out' he speaks of, is still depression and anxiety...since it is a multifaceted cognitive-behavioral and mood problem that isn't solely caused by neurological abnormalities that existed in birth or any one factor really.
I mean its not like the environment (natural, abstracted, social, etc.) interacts with genetic predispositions to either create more resiliency or more risk regarding the development of mental health problems or anything, and that social influences from the greater social system can cause clinically significant psychological problems, or anything.
Nevermind the whole "increasing diagnoses could be a sign of increased precision and awareness of the actual prevalence of these conditions among the general population, or that more people are seeking treatment and are thus receiving diagnoses for problems that would otherwise have gone unnoticed" thing, which is more especially important regarding the diagnoses of conditions like ADHD and autism.
That is not to say overdiagnosis does not exist, it does but it depends on the disorder; no single disorder is homogeneous within itself, let alone all of them lumped together. Some disorders, like ADHD, are in a weird paradoxical zone of being both overdiagnosed and underdiagnosed.
All of which is more usually caused by malpractice and crappy assessment by psychiatrists and doctors.
I guess the point is that society is structured to induce these problems, not that they're being overdiagnosed
Wording is very important in these discussions bucko.
Hey out of curiosity I wanted to put this out after seeing a global poling in regards to it:
What do you think are the US's top three strengths and top three weaknesses as a nation? What do you think the US's greatest challenge in the near future as a nation?
Open to both Americans and Foreigners as the response from foreigners based on a few polls was not what I was expecting.
Have a token answer from an ignorant foreigner to get things started.
Currency
Geography
Market
Constitutional arrangements
Partisanship
Inequality
Not meant to be particularly damning, I would say similar things about other places.
The pacific federation and British Home Nations
On the same note as NMF,
Wealth, power, and production vs. aging infrastructure, class/political divide, and a lack of growth/potential for growth
The biggest challenge is going to be redistribution and zero-growth economics... if the US doesn't refocus on improving quality of life for the bottom 90% and stabilizing a green economy, then it'll buckle under its own weight
Not American but also doesn't use British spellings most of the time... we've narrowed it down to 90% of the world /s
What if the real NMF was American all along? /s
Strengths:
Geography (Natural resources, isolation from rival powers, weaker neighbours)
Civic religion (Founding Fathers, '''''''''''Judeo-Christian values'''''''''''', Constitution worship, ability to incorporate ((primarily white)) ethnic pluralities into a cultural monolith)
Cultural hegemony across the Anglosphere, and an ability to translate that into other cultural spheres
Weaknesses:
Entrenched economic elitism, prioritizing the needs of established interests over the needs of the wider public, or indeed, the nation as a whole. (MIC, WASPS, Political Dynasties)
A political foundation built upon genocide, slavery and religious sectarianism, which entrenches racialist supremacism with overtly religious overtones among a sizeable section of the White Protestant population, as well as other fellow travelers in the White Catholic/Jewish demographic, as well as some Afro-Americans/Asiatics who have bought in to the American 'civic religion' as it is conceptualised on the right. (KKK, Prosperity Doctrine, Nativism, American Exceptionalism)
The proliferation of weapons throughout society under the impression that such a thing is a personal privilege, rather than a societal obligation, and the subsequent use of these firearms in a litany of civic atrocities. (2.5 Mass Shootings per day)
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