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You ain't gettin the point man. You just ain't gettin the point. It wouldn't happen any bloody time soon, that or it already started a butt ton of years ago. It would take forever. All it would take is creating new vampires and breeding new wolves that have lived in this environment together and constantly mingling, away from all the hatred imposed by the council and other wolves. Most of the hatred is based on "Well my clan and coven has always done it" or "My family has always taught us about the horrible things the vampires did to us, so it's only natural to get revenge."
You know why the wolf players don't kill every vamp they see? Because they haven't been around that influence! Any new vampires or wolves, raised by those "hopeful dreamers" and away from vamps and wolves who still think killing the other side is the only logical thing to do is a very strong possibility! You maneuvered yourself into making it possible yourself! Hooray for chess skills!
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*Looks back and realises*
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Templar Cross wonders the forrest with his greatsword sheathed, waiting for ungodly abominations to attack him. He was new to the order and was nieve.
Youll find out.. and shes in the shadowed forest. Shes extremly jumpy, shes sorta like the oppsite of pyre
Pff, he's not naive, ungodly abominations attack people all the time!
Imma go back to readin stuffs.
Yeah but he's young...Especially to join the Templars of Lands end.
OOC: Literally the hatred is practically genetic at this point Wabs. An alliance just simply wouldn't happen. You completely brushed off my comparison to Jews and Nazi's because Nazi's aren't around anymore which doesn't matter, Jews still don't forgive them for their actions. Hell even people who aren't Jewish don't forgive them. Same thing with vampires and werewolves. A rebellion is one thing to get over Wabs, reference to your Star Wars example, but a total attempt at genocide is another entirely.
... He's going to die to a slime. XD
GOD DAMMIT MINECRAFT!!
Literally, the hatred is not genetic, as that doesn't work. Otherwise all the wolf players would have tried killing Sam. You're ignoring precedents here. An alliance is completely possible. What you're trying to say is genetics is psychological influence on newborn vampire/wolf minds by the culture of the surrounding vampires/wolves.
OOC: I said practically. I didn't mean it literally but you took it that way. An alliance isn't possible. If Nazi's were still around do you think that Jews would ally with them for something? Hell no they wouldn't. Same thing here. Some could form one sure but the population at large never would, thus the small alliance would end up failing miserably at a coup.
*Isle looks around, her bluish white hair reflecting in the sun coming from the leaves*
You're ignoring the point. One, the jews and nazis example is defunct, as they would treat each other as normal people if they were raised knowing nothing about WWII. Two, I didn't say that it would be a fast growing group, as I said it could easily take thousands of years to create a group of any great size. Three, Immensus is immense. With enough time, they could create quite the force, especially with the fact that half their members would be wolves, which vamps have quite the problem with.
And you said "LITERALLY the hatred is practically genetic." That sentence doesn't even work. Literally and practically don't match.
Wouldn't it depend on what strains of both vampire and werewolves made up the coup? Sure some Brimestones undead and cursed couldn't but perhaps Fae, supernatural, Bloodmoon might. It would depend on the individuals.
Good point. They don't have that same kind of hatred either. Such an alliance would attract members from other strains instead of having to bring them up from childhood in such a living situation.
Duncan Cross wanders the forrest. He had a greatsword that seemed to have a symbol on the hilt, he also wore heavy plate armour with a symbol of a sun on the chestplate. He wore heavy plate from head to toe so you can't see his face though you could tell he was young due to the enthusiasm he expressed as he wandered the forrest.
*Isle looks around, hearing footsteps* h-hello?
OOC: It was a comparison to state how natural it comes to them. It's also not defunct because that was a major thing to happen to them, just as it was a major thing for vampires to attempt to wipe out werewolves. They wouldn't be raised not knowing unless those raising them didn't know for some reason. An alliance just wouldn't happen, nothing too large scale. Plus in the time a group of any notable size would take to form those they plan on rising against would also rise considerably in size not to mention the superpowers they are going to have to kill to have a hope of succeeding in creating an alliance, i.e the council, would become much stronger during the years of the alliance forming. The strain thing is somewhat possible but many don't know of the other strains and even further than that they tend to stick to their native sector (not to say all stay to their native area, just a majority)
Thank you :)
Duncan looks around after hearing the hello, he looks around and puts his hand on the handle of it ready to unsheathe it "Hello? Who's there?"
*Ahem* The hopeful dreamers, as you called them, could come to be in any sort of way, but hold their duty and loyalty to each other above the rivalry between their species. An alliance can happen, regardless on what you think they could do. And if it's an actual alliance, they wouldn't bother trying to attack them without a plan, and without allies of their own. And about the other strains being in their own sectors, this alliance wouldn't be stupid enough to derp around in TGC, they would hide out and spread through other sectors, both spreading the word and growing in number.
*she starts backing up, looking around for him* m-my names i-isle..p-please dont hurt me
Purhaps an individual with knowledge of all known strains could bring them together, is it completely unlikely that maybe someone in the council would host the coup in an attemp to rise far beyond his or her station? I'm not saying it would be successful but still such a thing must be possible.
Apparently (According to this nationstates calculator I've got) Wabacha is running beautifully. Got no debt, and the government's making over 1.6 trillion bucks a year. Haha! >:D
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