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Here is my statement which I am distributing. It is purely my opinion.
Hello, my name is The Santland and I am a relatively unknown Lezran. I am here to encourage you to vote YES on the merger. The region's that will be combined all will have access to the incredibly successful Lezran RP system which has dominated our success as a region for over a year. You will also be granted a new and improved system of governing, stable, and sure to be successful. Plus, you will have more new players you can get to know and make friends with. So I stand with the merger.

Old utopia wrote:

It's better than staying in a region slowly decreasing inactivity. And the Rhinians aren't annexing us. The flag does bear some resemblance, but how does that mean they're annexing us? Yes Patek Phillippe is a Rhinian, but the Rhinians could say the exact same thing if you were chosen as emperor. They've still yet to choose an heir, and most likely it won't be a Rhinian. This merger is the best possible option for us.

I know they would have said that. That is why I have opposed the idea of an emperor from the very beginning. I don't like that idea at all.

Balticonia wrote:

I know they would have said that. That is why I have opposed the idea of an emperor from the very beginning. I don't like that idea at all.

What do you think the chance is that Patek Phillippe will turn into a dictator. Tell me. We can trust founders and emperors to be fair because it literally happens all across nationstates. If the mentality that founders can't be trusted with their power turned out to be true, there wouldn't be a single stable region in all of nationstates.

Balticonia wrote:

I never said that. But I can say that I wish Trump had less power without calling him a dictator, can't I?

I never said you said that I'm asking you what's the chance that Patek Phillippe will abuse his powers as emperor?

Balticonia wrote:

I don't think he will go any farther than is outlined in the constitution, but I am saying that the constitution gives him too much power

The power to veto is too much?

It is now 6-3 against in Westphalia. Chance of victory drops to 22%

I'm moving my secondary here instead of Rhinia. Don't be alarmed ^^

Balticonia wrote:

New Technocratic Prussia, right? Welcome!

mmhmm. I'm also here because I'm fully on your side with this. As for the whole of Lezra, I hope you all stand in solidarity with us. For the sake of our communities we can get this constitution rewritten and rebuilt from the ground up. This is a nightmare and we were promised through backdoor dealings so much better. Us Westphalians were borderline betrayed with many of our promises being ignored or outright written out of the constitution. We're unlikely to go through with this as it currently stands, but if you guys join, I shudder to think.

Balticonia wrote:

Exactly. Everyone knows that Rhinia and Westphalia were always rivals at best, enemies at worst. When I asked for Rhinian help to save Westphalia, I was flattly denied. Let them die, they said, why would we save them? Now, those same ruthless Rhinians are coming to annex Westphalia, I mean, its basically Rhinia with another name. Even the WFE is the same, see: Union of the Rhine. Why should we support this? There is no good reason.

It's a total clownshow and we need to stick together if we're gonna pull through. We can't let the Rhinians screw us all over like this. We were promised in a deal that elections would be open and that we would get to see the process for choice of Emperor. They have blown off and made excuses to our problems and they've even mocked my personal concerns because I'm a Socialist and called me a nutjob. This isn't just an RP merger of four regions, we're literally merging our friends groups, and they have not talked brightly to us about you guys either. This is a con and if we are to merge, before we do, we must unite to get this constitution overturned and be promised a transparent vote. Now ahem, I was told there'd be food.

Balticonia wrote:

Exactly. Everyone knows that Rhinia and Westphalia were always rivals at best, enemies at worst. When I asked for Rhinian help to save Westphalia, I was flattly denied. Let them die, they said, why would we save them? Now, those same ruthless Rhinians are coming to annex Westphalia, I mean, its basically Rhinia with another name. Even the WFE is the same, see: Union of the Rhine. Why should we support this? There is no good reason.

Didn't Cannula suggest that name tho?

Technocratic switzerland wrote:

I don't really think it's about the name, it's about how everything else is so obviously Rhinian. The political system, the politicians, a constitution that was downright written without our input, and that they all promised us simple, reasonable things that they couldn't even deliver on

Exactly. I suggested constitutional changes, but they didn't even change anything. They basically said Nope. It's gotta be the way I made it in the first draft. No edits allowed

The constitution is 33% longer than the US constitution, and don't even try convincing me that a group of friends trying to have fun need more rules than the United States. The constitution proposed doesn't even have a way to ammend itself, so its basically worthless

Technocratic switzerland wrote:

I was told the exact same thing "We'll revise it once the new region is founded" As I then get sent by my fellow Westphalian officials them referring to me as an "ideologue" who simply wants to impose my views of Libertarian Socialism upon the community for simply wanting there to be more powers given to the citizenry, a more democratic government, and less bureaucracy.

Thats ridiculous. Anyone who libles someone else for requesting democracy is crazy. They said that an emperor was needed to control the crowds and prevent mob rule. Now I see why