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Congratulations to Katness Everdeen on becoming Chief General!

Katniss Everdean, Narration, and Zosar

German federal reich

Qon wrote:Notes On the Purge of Apathy

As decided by the leadership of Abydos, the Purge of Apathy has just taken place. This purge targeted non World Assembly Nations who have not participated on the Abydos Regional Message Board, who are not known to be puppet nations of active citizens, and who do not share Ambassador or special refugee status. This Purge of Apathy slashed our regional population down to 40 nations and the concentration of Active Nations in Abydos has now nearly doubled. With this said, If you are here, congratulations, you survived the Abydos Purge of Apathy. If you are reading this from abroad wondering why you were purge know that Abydos values your participation and should you decide to beco.e a sociable member of society or a citizen, you are definately welcome to return.

I will ask that further suggestions of Purge and purge-like activity be brought before the Conclave before being conducted again so as to allow citizen input into the matter and prevent this act from being precidented into normalcy.

Chief General Appointment
Being a results-oriented figure as well as someone who values merit, I would like to appoint Katness Everdeen to the position of Chief General pending a private telegram from the nations current WA nation, wherever in the world that may be. After an extensive review of their resume, breadth of experience, and conducted unofficial interviews, I believe Katness best to serve in that capacity. Within my term of office, The Chief General shall be charged with raising a capable army, and conducting foreign operations. If such can not be accomplished within a reasonable amount of time, this appointment shall be reviewed again in 30 days. It shall be further charged that the Chief General not conduct military operations jointly, opposingly, or in solo with the following foreign regional militaries: The Black Hawks, Osiris, The West Pacific, and with permission pending a joint statement of peace with: Karma, The Mafia, Kantrias, Arda en Estel, The Universal Allegiance, The Order of the Sword, Firehelm, Kingdom of Alexandria, The Kingdom of Great Britain, Unknown, the LKE, HYDRA Command, Albion, Corneria, Osiris, Lone Wolves United, and the JTF.

ew the west Pacific. That makes me somewhat glad I wasn't appointed

Sol filii, Katniss Everdean, and Narration

Big congratulations for your appointment, Katness Everdeen !

Katniss Everdean and Tigriso

German federal reich

When you have the lowest workforce participation rate in the region but still the 8th highest in economic output.

Edenea, Sol filii, Katniss Everdean, Narration, and 2 othersZosar, and Tigriso

Qon wrote:
Chief General Appointment
Being a results-oriented figure as well as someone who values merit, I would like to appoint Katness Everdeen to the position of Chief General pending a private telegram from the nations current WA nation, wherever in the world that may be. After an extensive review of their resume, breadth of experience, and conducted unofficial interviews, I believe Katness best to serve in that capacity. Within my term of office, The Chief General shall be charged with raising a capable army, and conducting foreign operations. If such can not be accomplished within a reasonable amount of time, this appointment shall be reviewed again in 30 days. It shall be further charged that the Chief General not conduct military operations jointly, opposingly, or in solo with the following foreign regional militaries: The Black Hawks, Osiris, The West Pacific, and with permission pending a joint statement of peace with: Karma, The Mafia, Kantrias, Arda en Estel, The Universal Allegiance, The Order of the Sword, Firehelm, Kingdom of Alexandria, The Kingdom of Great Britain, Unknown, the LKE, HYDRA Command, Albion, Corneria, Osiris, Lone Wolves United, and the JTF.

Thank you for the honour that you have bestowed on me by my appointment to the post of Chief General. I will TG you the information that you require.

I would like to thank all those who have congratulated me upon my appointment.

Narration, Zosar, and Tigriso

German federal reich wrote:When you have the lowest workforce participation rate in the region but still the 8th highest in economic output.

Lol, I'm ranked 12th in Economic Output
Well, I guess y'all are just more efficient!
The workers you do have are probably being worked like mules.

How's your technological advancement? Maybe you just have more automated processes, which would mean you could still have the production output just less actual people and more "robots".

Zyris, Katniss Everdean, Narration, and Tigriso

Qon How many nations were purged?

Narration wrote:Qon How many nations were purged?

39 non WA nations purged themselves through their apathy and lack of caring. Of that approximately 30 were inactive 10 days or more.

Katniss Everdean, Narration, Zosar, and Opsender

Zyris wrote:39 non WA nations purged themselves through their apathy and lack of caring. Of that approximately 30 were inactive 10 days or more.

oof

German federal reich

Edenea wrote:Lol, I'm ranked 12th in Economic Output
Well, I guess y'all are just more efficient!
The workers you do have are probably being worked like mules.

How's your technological advancement? Maybe you just have more automated processes, which would mean you could still have the production output just less actual people and more "robots".

I've the 7th highest in scientific advancement, so its possible. But what's more likely is that 12% of nation deaths are atributed to overexertion at work and ~70% is attributed to dissapearence.
Edit:oh and I forgot to mention
Slavery and Employed children

Oh, Jesus. I guess in the name in science, I have sacrifice Civil Rights for improvement

German federal reich and Katniss Everdean

German federal reich

Sol filii wrote:Oh, Jesus. I guess in the name in science, I have sacrifice Civil Rights for improvement

That's the spirit! Who ever needs so called "civil rights" in nationstates?

Katniss Everdean and Narration

Definately not mine, Civil rights are outlawed in Qon.

German federal reich, Katniss Everdean, Narration, and Tigriso

German federal reich wrote:That's the spirit! Who ever needs so called "civil rights" in nationstates?

truth

German federal reich and Katniss Everdean

German federal reich

Yea and through the use of slavery and child employment I can focous on more important things. Like making sure my military stays the most advanced in abydos.

Katniss Everdean, Narration, and Tigriso

German federal reich wrote:
That's the spirit!  Who ever needs so called "civil rights" in nationstates? 

Umm, we kinda need it tho lol

German federal reich

Opsender wrote:Umm, we kinda need it tho lol

Hol' up.

Katniss Everdean and Tigriso

Eastern ashanti

Well, this interesting little turn down the rabbit hole has inspired my first of many polls. I like when things spark debate.

Narration and Tigriso

Opsender wrote:Umm, we kinda need it tho lol

nah mate im good

Opsender

Eastern ashanti wrote:Well, this interesting little turn down the rabbit hole has inspired my first of many polls. I like when things spark debate.

Did you mention on the RMB that you stuck a poll up?

I Eat Rights for Breakcast

Abydos, thankfully, does not have a Bill of Rights. we did for a short time, one that was jarringly unconstitutional. After the Mass Exodus, decent records of this were destroyed by the outgoing party and thus the document was lost to time and only an incomplete rough draft of it exists.

So what of today? While Abydos exists in a sort of free for all status, it actually is quite closely monitored and citizens today need to be encouraged to exercise their little used rights the Eye provides. Citizens dont coup, dont use parties to gain power, dont push the boundaries to expand and grow. This state we are in today is far from what I had expected when the Eye was written. I had expected a continual power struggle, coups every month and forces re-aligning themselves regularly. The Eye is designed to promote this. The Eye is simply not being used. What this means is that if you are not vying for yourself or your party to have my position, or the High Priests, If you are not secretly or boastfully moving the chess pieces around to give your party the advantage on the conclave, if you are not planning 5 moves ahead to eventually claim the prize here, then you are not using the civil rights afforded to you. If then, you are not going to use those rights, why have them at all?

Your goal is my head on a pike and your butt in my seat either Deceptively or through brazen attack or through good old fashioned azzkissing for an appointment. When I am eventually dethroned, and I will be when someone has the guts to make a perfectly executed power play here my goal is then to oust you in spectacular fashion and reclaim some former glory in an near-constant game of Capture the throne. If you are not my party member, you will be campaigned against harshly, not offered a truce unless beneficial to me. If you have a law, I'll appose it unless it serves my goal selfishly and helps me gain power. Your devastation will be my salvation. And when I have that power, which I now do, My job is to defend against you, the roudy crowd, the wielders of pitchforks and machiavellian mobs. Those are your rights. I'd recommend start using them, or my rule will never end, this region will never change, and you the people will be exactly where you are at today... Not Grand Luxarch. Abydos is 15 years old and unless you act, you'll never be remembered. The list of leaders goes back to the dawn of NS time. Your goal is to make it to that list. If you cannot make that list, doing something so noteworthy it is remembered long after you quit NS is a decent runner up. Something. Abydos is designed to be ruthless in its gameplay, fair in its approach and deadly to stability. You have civil rights, can do some very unique things in this region. Most regions dont allow coups or power plays. we have more civil rights than most regions dream of allowing. Use them.

Not sure how to make this anymore clear, but I've played my game, shown my hand. Purposefully appointed people low on the 4 month rule count to extend my time up here. Insured my appointments are loyal to the bone, moved people around to protect my throne. All this to bode me a little more time, a little more. Eventually, you will come for my head, I know that. That is how it is here, that is the joy of Abydos, the ruthlessness of our gameplay, the delight In our instinctual struggle for power. You'll come for me, and when you are highest on the food chain for a while, the rest of us will first praise your name as Grand Luxarch, a d then adapt again plot again, scheme again, and repeat the cycle now with your head destined for the stake. A good Grand Luxarch knows when to step down voluntarily before the mobs swallow him wholr and ride high on a good record. Other Grand Luxarchs fight to the bitter end, trading their good works for one awesomly sour ending that leaves the region exhausted and emotionally drained. Sadly, I am not a good Grand Luxarch who will leave on nice terms, but will watch from ahigh as you all move yourselves, set your traps, and Ill inevitably fall into one of those traps If it is executed legally and in good stealth. Or not, it could be you who missteps the minefield of defense I have planted, who knows. Either way, As much as the top is fun, it is lonely and I for one love the thrill of the hunt!

~The Wrath of Qon the Magnificent

PS, Checkmate.

Narration and Opsender

Well, this discussion is interesting! However, I should address some points that I often use 'we' to represent my position as a state, it's a diplomatic way but I get that it caused a misinterpretation, interpreting 'we' as in whole Abydos. I have no rights to generalize us because we are our own nations, so from now on I'll just go with 'I' to represent Opsender.

Anyways, about civil rights, I think we can all agree it's up to each state on how would they exercise them. We respect sovereignty, and we must never intervene it.

So my previous message was just Opsender's take on civil rights in Opsender, and it was never a message from me to force other country to exercise the same. Thank you and have a blessed day!

Tigriso

Eastern ashanti

Well, if it is controversy the Grand Luxarch desires, he shall have it.

I call on the citizens and WA members of Abydos to remove their endorsement from Qon as WA Delegate for the region and give it to literally any other.

So long as the Grand Luxarch holds the office of Ankh Emperor, there are few physical ways to remove him from power if he begin to abuse his position, or if the general public decided a new Grand Luxarch should be instilled in the office. All but 1 of 4 forms of coup listed in the Eye of Abydos requires the Ankh Emperor's support. If the Grand Luxarch wants us to challenge him and make him feel uneasy in his seat, taking away his safety net is certainly a good first start.

Opsender wrote:Well, this discussion is interesting! However, I should address some points that I often use 'we' to represent my position as a state, it's a diplomatic way but I get that it caused a misinterpretation, interpreting 'we' as in whole Abydos. I have no rights to generalize us because we are our own nations, so from now on I'll just go with 'I' to represent Opsender.

Anyways, about civil rights, I think we can all agree it's up to each state on how would they exercise them. We respect sovereignty, and we must never intervene it.

So my previous message was just Opsender's take on civil rights in Opsender, and it was never a message from me to force other country to exercise the same. Thank you and have a blessed day!

I agree

Opsender

Qon wrote:I Eat Rights for Breakcast

Abydos, thankfully, does not have a Bill of Rights. we did for a short time, one that was jarringly unconstitutional. After the Mass Exodus, decent records of this were destroyed by the outgoing party and thus the document was lost to time and only an incomplete rough draft of it exists.

So what of today? While Abydos exists in a sort of free for all status, it actually is quite closely monitored and citizens today need to be encouraged to exercise their little used rights the Eye provides. Citizens dont coup, dont use parties to gain power, dont push the boundaries to expand and grow. This state we are in today is far from what I had expected when the Eye was written. I had expected a continual power struggle, coups every month and forces re-aligning themselves regularly. The Eye is designed to promote this. The Eye is simply not being used. What this means is that if you are not vying for yourself or your party to have my position, or the High Priests, If you are not secretly or boastfully moving the chess pieces around to give your party the advantage on the conclave, if you are not planning 5 moves ahead to eventually claim the prize here, then you are not using the civil rights afforded to you. If then, you are not going to use those rights, why have them at all?

Your goal is my head on a pike and your butt in my seat either Deceptively or through brazen attack or through good old fashioned azzkissing for an appointment. When I am eventually dethroned, and I will be when someone has the guts to make a perfectly executed power play here my goal is then to oust you in spectacular fashion and reclaim some former glory in an near-constant game of Capture the throne. If you are not my party member, you will be campaigned against harshly, not offered a truce unless beneficial to me. If you have a law, I'll appose it unless it serves my goal selfishly and helps me gain power. Your devastation will be my salvation. And when I have that power, which I now do, My job is to defend against you, the roudy crowd, the wielders of pitchforks and machiavellian mobs. Those are your rights. I'd recommend start using them, or my rule will never end, this region will never change, and you the people will be exactly where you are at today... Not Grand Luxarch. Abydos is 15 years old and unless you act, you'll never be remembered. The list of leaders goes back to the dawn of NS time. Your goal is to make it to that list. If you cannot make that list, doing something so noteworthy it is remembered long after you quit NS is a decent runner up. Something. Abydos is designed to be ruthless in its gameplay, fair in its approach and deadly to stability. You have civil rights, can do some very unique things in this region. Most regions dont allow coups or power plays. we have more civil rights than most regions dream of allowing. Use them.

Not sure how to make this anymore clear, but I've played my game, shown my hand. Purposefully appointed people low on the 4 month rule count to extend my time up here. Insured my appointments are loyal to the bone, moved people around to protect my throne. All this to bode me a little more time, a little more. Eventually, you will come for my head, I know that. That is how it is here, that is the joy of Abydos, the ruthlessness of our gameplay, the delight In our instinctual struggle for power. You'll come for me, and when you are highest on the food chain for a while, the rest of us will first praise your name as Grand Luxarch, a d then adapt again plot again, scheme again, and repeat the cycle now with your head destined for the stake. A good Grand Luxarch knows when to step down voluntarily before the mobs swallow him wholr and ride high on a good record. Other Grand Luxarchs fight to the bitter end, trading their good works for one awesomly sour ending that leaves the region exhausted and emotionally drained. Sadly, I am not a good Grand Luxarch who will leave on nice terms, but will watch from ahigh as you all move yourselves, set your traps, and Ill inevitably fall into one of those traps If it is executed legally and in good stealth. Or not, it could be you who missteps the minefield of defense I have planted, who knows. Either way, As much as the top is fun, it is lonely and I for one love the thrill of the hunt!

~The Wrath of Qon the Magnificent

PS, Checkmate.

Having a bill of rights in this region is an exercise in futility. Rights and fighting for them are a necessity when the alternative of leaving an oppressive system is not an option. Such is not the case. People have the right to come and go if they find that this or any place does not afford them certain things they deem rights. The Eye is after all, a social contract. The founder has expectations of those who deign to come here in terms of what is acceptable social behavior. We all reside and serve here at the pleasure of the founder. It says so. There is a whole section dedicated to things that displease the founder. By merely being here, you agree not to do those things. If you do them, you will get purged. And the founder is right when he says that a bill of rights would contravene the Eye. To affirm rights to speech for instance would suddenly make that section about things that displease the founder null and void. And to have separate laws that say two different things about one subject is schizophrenic. To affirm a right to speech might open up the founder to ridicule. And ridicule is bad. Ridicule causes hurt feelings. Ugly things get said. People leave. And the founder has to recruit all over again. And that costs money. You should never burden your founder financially. If you're not going to contribute any money, the least you can do is not do anything that might waste money. This goes for any region with a founder. Founders are important people. They spend the money that most of us other selfish people couldn't be bothered to give a damn about spending because we have car payments, rent, and utility bills.

Narration and Zosar

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