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Anyone who thinks neoliberals are better for respectable social values than left-wingers is acting delusional. Right-wingers are libertarians who have let everything become a matter of choice and limited government. Communists were the only people who questioned the oncoming liberalization of sex. They’ve been eliminated like most communists now, but they were better than right-wingers.

Here's a satirical poem on the modern mind that Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias often quotes ("Creed" by Steve Turner):

"We believe in Marxfreudanddarwin.

We believe everything is OK
as long as you don’t hurt anyone,
to the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge.
We believe in sex before, during, and after marriage.

We believe in the therapy of sin.
We believe that adultery is fun.
We believe that sodomy’s OK.
We believe that taboos are taboo.

We believe that everything’s getting better
despite evidence to the contrary.
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence.

We believe there’s something in horoscopes,
UFO’s and bent spoons;
Jesus was a good man just like Buddha,
Mohammed, and ourselves.
He was a good moral teacher although we think
His good morals were bad.

We believe that all religions are basically the same –
at least the one that we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on matters of creation,
sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation.

We believe that after death comes the Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens
they say nothing.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied, then it’s
compulsory heaven for all
excepting perhaps
Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Khan.

We believe in Masters and Johnson.
What’s selected is average.
What’s average is normal.
What’s normal is good.

We believe in total disarmament.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and bloodshed.
Americans should beat their guns into tractors
and the Russians would be sure to follow.

We believe that man is essentially good.
It’s only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society.

We believe that each man must find the truth that
is right for him.
Reality will adapt accordingly.
The universe will readjust.
History will alter.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth
that there is no absolute truth.

We believe in the rejection of creeds,
and the flowing of individual thought.

If chance be
the Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky,
and when you hear
State of Emergency!
Sniper Kills Ten!
Troops on Rampage!
Whites go Looting!
Bomb Blasts School!
It is but the sound of man
worshipping his maker.”

Culture of Life, The new united states, Phydios, The Rouge Christmas State, and 2 othersUnited massachusetts, and The Catholic State of Eire

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:For 9 years now there has been a right-winged government in power and I haven't seen any action from the Tories in any way to stop this kind of thing happening in the UK.

That's because:
1) They are hardily conservative
2) They have no ideology and no guts and no first principles

Culture of Life, The new united states, and New waldensia

Of course the Labor party does have guts (sometimes) and ideology (usually) and principles (/ideology), but they stink.

The new united states

Hah, imagine thinking Marx and Freud were remotely compatible.

The People of Liego are happy to be in this wonderful place The Pope will be very pleased

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:That's because:
1) They are hardily conservative
2) They have no ideology and no guts and no first principles

If we want to go back further then, Margret Thatcher, the most far-right leader the UK probably has ever had, voted for the legalisation of abortion. You can't argue to me that she was "hardly conservative" and had "no guts and no first principles".

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:Of course the Labor party does have guts (sometimes) and ideology (usually) and principles (/ideology), but they stink.

I'll take Labour over the Tories any day of the week!

Horatius Cocles, United massachusetts, and Lagrodia

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:If we want to go back further then, Margret Thatcher, the most far-right leader the UK probably has ever had, voted for the legalisation of abortion. You can't argue to me that she was "hardly conservative" and had "no guts and no first principles".

I'll take Labour over the Tories any day of the week!

Thatcher is hardly the most conservative leader in the UK, far from it (Disraeli, Lord Salisbury,...). Right-wing, as you define it, isn't conservatism. She obvious had more guts than current leaders (I was only talking about the current leaders).

Culture of Life and The new united states

What I saw of the debate last night was distinctly disappointing and I begin to wonder if networks are even capable of running actually meaningful ones anymore (the number of candidates doesn't help). Now everyone is saying Elizabeth Warren won even though they clearly pandered the questions to her strengths and gave ridiculously disproportionate time to her and Cory Booker (I also notice that these are the two candidates almost constantly featured in BBC articles about the primaries). Castro stands out exclusively for saying "audios" (it was funny, but hardly...meaningful) and pushing a ridiculous immigration policy. Everyone else might get a mention, maybe, but basically are ignored because pundits don't favour them. John Delaney was my favorite.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48761550
Great line:
"That's an open door for Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar and Julian Castro to find the spark that's been missing from their campaigns so far. Beto O'Rourke could recapture the magic from his 2018 Senate bid. Bill de Blasio might show he's more than just a New York tabloid punching bag. Washington Governor Jay Inslee will have a national audience for his climate-change pitch, as will Tulsi Gabbard for her visions of world peace and Tim Ryan for his blue-collar Ohio populism. John Delaney… will also be there."

The new united states, Phydios, and Lagrodia

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:Thatcher is hardly the most conservative leader in the UK, far from it (Disraeli, Lord Salisbury,...). Right-wing, as you define it, isn't conservatism. She obvious had more guts than current leaders (I was only talking about the current leaders).

Perhaps not from all ages, but certainly in recent memory she has been the most right winged of all prime ministers in living memory. Perhaps you can tell me then what conservatism is because Thatcherism is seen as one of the most conservative political ideologies in the UK. By having "guts" I take it you mean she was autocratic, yes we certainly need more of those types of leaders.

New poll in Zentari (as I mentioned a few days ago. Don't worry, I'm only slightly early :p). Expect another poll around Tuesday/Wednesday for the second debate.

page=poll/p=144381

The new united states

If I was a UK citizen I’d surely vote for Labour. It would be far easier than the US, where the libertarians are still pro-life.

Also, that debate was awesome. All these goofuses talking about how they’ll beat Trump and then Bernie comes out and says “none of these people care and are the reason nothing ever changes.” It was fantastic.

Horatius Cocles, United massachusetts, and The Catholic State of Eire

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:This has however thankfully been overturned by the Court of Appeal:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48751067

It's beyond comprehension how this was allowed to happen in the first place, essentially condemning a child to death for no justifiable reason. This does clearly show that there is a culture in the judicial system which views the unborn with no inherent value, never mind having a concept of human dignity. Saying that however I would be concerned labeling this view as socialist because that simply isn't the case in the UK. For 9 years now there has been a right-winged government in power and I haven't seen any action from the Tories in any way to stop this kind of thing happening in the UK.

Regarding the socialism point, I agree. The British government's disdain for unborn life has nothing to do with its healthcare system. It has to do with a judicial system that elevates the judgments of judges over those of patients and parents.

Kid dying? The judge says he doesn't have a chance, so we're going to disconnect him against your will.

Intellectually disabled woman gets pregnant? She and her family can't handle the situation in the judge's opinion, so the judge thinks you should be forced to have an abortion. It doesn't matter what your moral or religious convictions are.

The Gallant Old Republic wrote:John Delaney was my favorite.

He seemed to be the most serious and reasonable of the candidates. If you go to his website, he lists his top issues as infrastructure (reasonable and non-controversial), vocational training (same), and a mixed healthcare system (universal basic coverage, plus supplemental private insurance).

Contrast with Cory Booker, for example, whose website lists his top issues as drug legalization, regulation of political speech ("voting rights"), and gay and trans issues. Or with Julián Castro, whose website lists his top issues as "[e]nd over-aggressive policing," decriminalization of illegal immigration, and federal control of education.

Lagrodia wrote:If I was a UK citizen I’d surely vote for Labour. It would be far easier than the US, where the libertarians are still pro-life.

Both major parties in the UK are terrible. I'm not sure what I'd do if I were one of the Queen's subjects.

The new united states, Phydios, and The Catholic State of Eire

Andrew Yang was hard done by the moderators, he should have been given more questions.

Culture of Life, The Gallant Old Republic, The new united states, Horatius Cocles, and 1 otherYes minister

Hey I'm new to the region and I find the political debate fascinating. I'm interested in who supports who in the democratic primary. Personally I hate almost all of their politics but found the debate amusing. I liked Harris's line when she said that America didn't need a food fight they need to know how the candidates are putting food on the table.

The new united states, Horatius Cocles, United massachusetts, and The Catholic State of Eire

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:Andrew Yang was hard done by the moderators, he should have been given more questions.

So we could hear more silicon valley centrism? No thanks.

United massachusetts

Yes minister wrote:Hey I'm new to the region and I find the political debate fascinating. I'm interested in who supports who in the democratic primary. Personally I hate almost all of their politics but found the debate amusing. I liked Harris's line when she said that America didn't need a food fight they need to know how the candidates are putting food on the table.

The best candidates are John Delaney and Tim Ryan, I guess.

That said, Tim Ryan is a shill for Planned Parenthood.

https://www.ohio.com/article/20150128/OPINION/301288829
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/pressroom/planned-parenthood-applauds-congressman-tim-ryans-evolution-abortion

Ryan is one of those "I personally believe abortion is murder, but it should be legal" politicians.

The Gallant Old Republic and The new united states

Thoughts on Joe Biden?

There's a renewed focus on his 1975 comments that government should not "hold the white man back" in his "race" against "the black man."

The new united states and Phydios

United massachusetts

I'll put in a more detailed opinion, but I'm still travelling and still don't have access to many resources online. That said, preliminary support to Buttigieg and Warren.

I really don't like Gabbard or Harris, for what it's worth.

I was at first interested in the campaign of Julian Castro (he was my dark horse pick for the nomination) But his policies are getting more and more nutty and at this point he looks like he's looking for a Cabinet Spot.

Slavic lechia

I made a roleplay discord server…
https://discord.gg/34nX52f
come if you want the roleplay again of any kind!
We have three roleplays ongoing now but we can start new ones!

The new united states, United massachusetts, and The Catholic State of Eire

Lagrodia wrote:So we could hear more silicon valley centrism? No thanks.

You gotta admit that his UBI initiative is intersting and his other policies, at least most of them, are very attractive:

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

The Catholic State of Eire wrote:You gotta admit that his UBI initiative is intersting and his other policies, at least most of them, are very attractive:

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

UBI is bad. It’s the definition of centrism in the United States- a “compromise” that neither left nor right likes.

United massachusetts wrote:I'll put in a more detailed opinion, but I'm still travelling and still don't have access to many resources online. That said, preliminary support to Buttigieg and Warren.

I really don't like Gabbard or Harris, for what it's worth.

How anyone could support any of those guys before Bernie is beyond me. Certainly not Bill Kristol’s favorite, Buttigieg. Or the original Rachel Dolezal herself, “not involved in politics” Harvard professor, Republican, economist hack Elizabeth Warren.

United massachusetts

Lagrodia wrote:UBI is bad. It’s the definition of centrism in the United States- a “compromise” that neither left nor right likes.

How anyone could support any of those guys before Bernie is beyond me. Certainly not Bill Kristol’s favorite, Buttigieg. Or the original Rachel Dolezal herself, “not involved in politics” Harvard professor, Republican, economist hack Elizabeth Warren.

Lagrodia wrote:Anyone who thinks neoliberals are better for respectable social values than left-wingers is acting delusional. Right-wingers are libertarians who have let everything become a matter of choice and limited government. Communists were the only people who questioned the oncoming liberalization of sex. They’ve been eliminated like most communists now, but they were better than right-wingers.

My, you have changed

United massachusetts, is the current list of cabinet members, to whom I've given officerial powers, correct?

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