Western Atlantic RMB

WA Delegate: The Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss (elected )

Founder: The Caldan Union of The Resurgent Dream

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Highest Economic Output: 227th Largest Publishing Industry: 398th Largest Black Market: 402nd+25
Largest Populations: 561st Most Devout: 645th Most Cultured: 684th Fattest Citizens: 689th Smartest Citizens: 710th Largest Soda Pop Sector: 1,098th Most Advanced Defense Forces: 1,135th Most Nations: 1,142nd Largest Mining Sector: 1,150th Highest Average Incomes: 1,170th Highest Poor Incomes: 1,221st Largest Information Technology Sector: 1,222nd Most Avoided: 1,298th Most World Assembly Endorsements: 1,502nd Most Influential: 1,521st Most Advanced Public Education: 1,606th Largest Manufacturing Sector: 1,641st Most Scientifically Advanced: 1,671st Most Rebellious Youth: 1,692nd Largest Automobile Manufacturing Sector: 1,715th Most Advanced Law Enforcement: 1,763rd Most Armed: 1,776th Most Subsidized Industry: 1,880th Largest Arms Manufacturing Sector: 1,915th Largest Governments: 1,915th
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The Western Atlantic is a region comprising the continents of Ambara and Vasconia as well as a number of islands in the Atlantic Ocean. To her east lie the ruins of the the Holy Western Confederation and the states that were borne from her, neighbouring the oriental nations of the land that Westerners have come to call Transmontana.

While there is some fantasy stuff here, this is primarily a region for those interested in (post) modern tech, relatively realistic type role-plays, both diplomatic and character based.

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Embassies: Antarctic Oasis, The Federated Klatchian Coast, Tyrrhenia, Monkey Island, Mystria, Greater Dienstad, and Union of Confederate Regions.

Tags: Map, Neutral, Offsite Forums, Modern Tech, Serious, Role Player, Medium, Password, and Post-Modern Tech.

Regional Power: Moderate

Western Atlantic contains 12 nations, the 1,142nd most in the world.

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NationWA CategoryMotto
1.The Dutch Democratic Republic of KnootossNew York Times Democracy“Libertate Unanimus”
2.The Holy and Most August Empire of PantocratoriaRight-wing Utopia“Pour Dieu et Son Empire”
3.The Principality of Ostmark and NordmarkPsychotic Dictatorship“Sic transit gloria mundi”
4.The Democratic Republic of DaytanistanFather Knows Best State“O Glorious Daytan Motherland”
5.The People's Republic of NarvasarPsychotic Dictatorship“United Forever in Friendship”
6.The Federation of Southern Low CountriesLiberal Democratic Socialists“Liberté”
7.The Caldan Union of The Resurgent DreamLeft-Leaning College State“Ex Unitate Vires”
8.The People's Democratic Fiefdom of Uncle NoelFather Knows Best State“Peace, bread and land”
9.The Bailiwick of LeagranFather Knows Best State“Unity Through Strength”
10.The Kingdom of BraslandFather Knows Best State“Für Gott, König und Vaterland”
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I would like to congratulate Knoot on his 4 year 51 day Delegacy Anniversary. Since we missed the 4 year anniversary by 51 days.

Pointless pointless question for debate: The present incarnation of Leagran (the lovechild of Belgium and Tunisia) sort of needs a monarch. I was going to use the title of Bailiff but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I'd just made my own, poorer version of a stadtholder (or stadhouder if you will).

As a short history, the Leagrani Royal Family is more akin to the Romanian or Bulgarian royal families in being a relatively recent, foreign import as opposed to an unbroken bloodline going back to when Hans-Ulrich the Swift united the northern tribes in the Time of Reckoning-ening etc etc etc. I don't want Emperor or King (because it's nice to be different), but I can't decide whether it should be a prince or a grand duke or just a normal duke. Any ideas?

Why not a principality? Romania was first a principality and then a kingdom. If not, I like the title Grand Duke, it's so rare that it's cool.

That sounds fair enough. I have the feeling that this may be a question for Pantocratoria when he sees this but does anyone know how long down the line the family line the use of royal titles go? I'm not explaining that very well, so let me quote Wikipedia:

"... letters patent issued in 1917 (and still remaining in force today) assign a princely status and the style of Royal Highness to all male-line grandchildren of a monarch"

For the British monarchy, but I know other European monarchs didn't limit this to just male-line grandchildren and the "Your Royal Highness" would continue to be used for more distant relatives.

Fascinating stuff I know, but if anywhere would know it would be here.

It's different depending on the country. In France, as Pantocratoria will tell you, it goes pretty much indefinitely down the male line.

I follow the Germanic tradition: all members of the reigning house are Prince/ss of Brasland. However, I restrict the style of Royal Highness to the children of the sovereign and to the children of the sovereign's sons. The rest of the male line descendants are mere Highnesses.

It rather depends what political situation you want to have. The "Recent" monarchies (Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, etc.) in the 19th and early 20th century were all members of the other ruling families of Europe, with the exception of probably King Zog. Grand Duchy implies that your state is also subservient to another greater Kingdom or Imperial power. Is Leagran an absolute monarchy or a constitutional one? Principality might work, but it rather depends if you buy into the idea that Leagran is following the practice in other states, where Duke is less than Prince is less than King is less than Emperor sort of ranking.

Oh Leagran is very, very constitutional. Almost too constitutional.

Thanks for the input everyone, I think I've got an idea of what I'm going to do. I suppose at the end of the day I'm probably being overly-concerned, this is NationStates after all. So long as it has some sort of logic I'm sure it will be fine.

Being a grand duchy does not mean a country is subservient to a larger country. Luxembourg is the world's last remaining GD and it stands in equal ground to Belgium, the Netherlands, and the other European kingdoms. Also, a prince may be higher than a duke among the nobility, but among sovereign states a duchy is higher than a principality.

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