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ok
yeah I support you
dude why is nobody running
as long you keep my freedom of speech and me being allowed to do my own thing I will support you
Any Other thoughts?
Perhaps the ability for the Senate to vote on the citizenship of a nation as well, not the removal of citizenship but granting only
that's actually a good idea and may help some with regional activity
That sounds smart.
In that case Do you think Citizenship should all that is required for Senate, or do you want a waiting period?
I do think they should have some time invested in the region before being able to join the Senate. Maybe a person, after joining the union, cannot run in the first term. They must wait until the second term after they joined the union to run.
EDIT:
I could see this as being a bit excessive though as someone may join a day after a term starts and then they have to wait 120 days before running, so maybe just a set time, like 7 days or 30 days.
7 days sounds good - then the other question is do we grandfather clause in current people that have resided in the region for a long time
Who were you thinking.
May I suggest a grandfather clause for all those who belonged to the UAS prior to August 1, 2022, as long as their WA nation is registered with the Senate. If they do not have a WA nation, then it will be listed simply as “none”.
for clarity, will a WA nation listed with the Senate be a requirement for being grandfathered into citizenship had the non-wa nation resided within the region prior to 08/01/2022. The second clarification being if they don't have a wa nation, does it disqualify them from being grandfathered in.
That would be up to you guys to decide, there are players who do have a single nation that do not wish to join the WA.
3. The only role of this Transition Senate is to pass a law that addresses Senate rules and procedures. Such rules and procedures must include how a nation can be a Senator in accordance with the Constitution. <---place holder for the Court's instructions
Sicias - I think we can conclude that you win the Senate Presidency at this time as you're the only candidate and it's been literally more than 7 days. We need to begin drafting up proposals for Senate rules, procedures, and requirements for becoming a Senator. I'm wondering if we can word the proposal properly to include the Senate voting on nations becoming citizens as a procedure with the grandfather clause for all nations that have been in the region for at least 6 months prior to 08/01/2022 becoming bona fide citizens. Have the Senate rules under the same law and all of this done before 08/31/2022
Edit: I'll draft something up over the next couple of days
I had already started...
Alright, senators, up and at them, we have a time limit here...
Right, This is a Tad Delayed, However there is a Trio of New Bills I would Like to Introduce
Senate Bill GP.1 Senatorial Procedures
Purpose: clearly define proper senatorial procedures
1. When a New Senate Takes office the first order of business is to Elect a senate president
2. When the Senate has selected the Senate President The Chief Justice will Administer Oaths of Office for Every senate member, and then a unique one for the Senate President. The Current Chief Justice is Tasked with Coming up with those Oaths of office.
3. Any bill introduced by a senator has Five Days to be put to a Vote, and then a Further Two days to be voted upon, after that any senator who has not voted shall automatically abstain.
4. The Senate President or the Chairman can Veto the Bill within 48 hours, however the Senate president can sign it into law any time after the Senate passes the bill
5. Establishes a Government Secretary Puppet which is run by the current Senate President
6. All Legislation will be compiled into a Factbook with the secretary puppet, The legislation will be labeled according to the Category,
SD: Security and Defense
IR: Inter-regional relations and diplomacy
LO: Law and Order
GP: Government Procedures
RC: Recruitment and Citizenship
RA: Regional Activities
New Categories can be added and laws can be recategorized without subsequent legislation by the senate president, provided he first inform the senate of said change.
7. All Bills/Laws must have their Purpose stated at the top
8. All Official Government posts shall end with "Long Live the Union"
Senate Bill GP.2 Electoral Processes
Purpose: Detail procedures for Elections and prepare for most potential issues
1. the Current Senate President is in charge of hosting the Next Election
2. Elections are to be held via Google Forms, If any Eligible voter cannot Use Google forms the Election host is to send an absentee ballot via NS Telegram.
3. if there is a Dispute in the election any Citizen may Request a recount from the Chief Justice before the new senate takes office
4. The Newly elected senate is to take office Five days after the election
5. Elections will be held on the First of the month unless the First is a Sunday, In which elections will be held on the second.
6. A Census will be held Five days before the Election to determine how many Senate seats there are. this will be the last day a citizen may announce their candidacy
7. Only citizens are authorized to Run for senate or vote in elections.
8. If there is a shortage of Canidates the Chairman will select a Citizen to fill the seat with the approval of the Chief Justice, the selected nation can file a request with the chief justice.
9. In the Event of a tie the Chairman Selects the winner.
Senate Bill RC.1 Requirements for Citizenship
Purpose: Define a Citizen.
1. Any WA member is Automatically a Citizen.
2. Any Non-WA Member can request that they become Citizens to the Senate President he has the ability to approve or reject these requests
3. in the event that the senate president rejects the request the rest of the senate can vote on whether to offer the nation Citizenship in the region. if it is rejected again the nation can request the Chief justice to intervene.
4. Any nation who's application for Citizenship is approved Receives the same rights as any WA nation and for the purposes of the Law count as such. in order to keep track the Senate Scribe will Keep a factbook of citizens.
5. Anyone inactive for more than 10 days loses citizenship and must follow the process to apply for citizenship again, this includes WA members, and they do not count as a WA member for the purposes of the law.
Long Live the Union
If no one has any Objections I call for a Vote of All three Bills. So we can get this done ASAP
Currently at Vote:
Bill GP.1 Senatorial Procedures
Bill GP.2 Electoral Processes
Bill RC.1 Requirements for Citizenship
Please Format your Votes in the Following Manner for Ease of Vote Counting
GP.1 (Aye/Nay)
GP.2 (Aye/Nay)
RC.1 (Aye/Nay)
You have 48 hours to vote on the Following bills in the interest of Keeping things Moving. After the Bills are voted on we can discuss any further Legislation that may need to be completed by this senate before we hand the reigns over.
GP.1, Aye
GP.2, Abstain
I think it would be better to use the NS Regional poll for the votes for transparency purposes, as everyone can directly see who is voting and if they're in the WA. I would change my vote to Aye if that was amended.
RC.1, Aye
GP.1 - Aye
GP.2 - Nay - GP.2.1 - Chief Justice should host elections as this doesn't prevent the current Head of Senate from running in a Senate election and hosting it too
RC.1 - Nay - RC.1.5 - Contradicts RC.1.1 in that WA members lose citizenship and are counted as non-wa but all WA are automatic citizens - also a hard practice to keep up with and enforce. - Removal of Citizenship should be initiated by the Chief Justice in order to balance powers effectively. So that one branch isn't solely responsible for citizenship granting and removal
Edit: Also later on we can Amend GP.1 to say that an automatic abstain vote that is a result of the senator not voting is considered a vote in favor of the proposed bill, not including abstain votes that are the result of a senator actively voting.
GP.1 passes 2-0-4
GP.2 fails 1-1-4
RC.1 fails 1-1-4
wouldn't GP.2 be 0-1-5
if doing Aye Nay Abs
I autovoted Aye for all of them, however, because they were ties, I counted them as fails...
Oh geez the elections happened? I've been inactive so long...
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