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The radical wing is hardly radical and its here to stay. You cant just ditch what is obviously becoming millions of voters. No, their views will slowly be adopted by the dems as they become the normal liberal. It happened in the gop and itll happen here. With a two party system, it's the natural evolution of those parties. If it explodes so ferociously as to start a second civil war, then we can only conclude that the system is at fault. It won't be the fault of peopke holding beliefs you deem radical.
Sanders and Warren ran for laundry lists of specific things. And those platforms were killed off by the mainstream Democrats (or whatever you want to call them) consolidating around Biden. So, it's hardly a universal strategy.
At the state and local level, there are other candidates running on specific platforms as well. For example, my county exec (Democrat) is running on a platform about his response to the plague, including counter-cyclic spending to prevent the economy from cratering. His opponent is running on an anti-corruption message.
Why would Biden care about the Republicans if the Democrats hold the Senate? The last time I checked, most election models put likely Senate results either slightly for the Dems or say they're a toss-up.
But even then, there's no need for Biden to embrace what the party's left wing wants. It's even possible the party will have moved on to other issues by the midterms.
As can the Republicans. At this point, it's trite to say that this election has a reasonable chance of causing one of America's periodic major political realignments. If more states adopt ranked-choice voting, I'd say there's a good chance of it happening. But that's a very big if.
Glad to know that you consider me as part of its “radical wing”. Glad to know you’re totally willing to see me be disenfranchised because there’s nobody I’d be able to support at beyond the state level because the one national party that’s even opened up to this “radical wing” just turns around and rejects everything that brought them here.
I’d totally love to see the party I attempted to support just turn around and go back to the business of old white men, totally fun and cool.
If this is the Democratic Party you want, then I’ll be glad to watch it burn to the pit right alongside the Republicans.
Asthma is nasty; I had it as a child but grew over it (more or less; based on similar experiences of family members it is likely to return at old age) but not being able to breathe properly - the number one requirement to live - makes one wonder if someone had a dark sense of humour when designing this planet and its occupants. I hope you get better!
That’s how it’s supposed to be, no political parties just men with ideas
Killed off? Bernie's dragged the Democrats farther left over the course of ~5 years than anyone before him. Calling it the "mainstream democrats" that "killed off" these specific platforms is petulent and childish, especially considering how few Bernie supporters could be bothered to show up to support him in the primaries. Biden's plan(s) are quite progressive and incorporate many things that Sanders et al are looking for, but in a more easily digestible form. The simple fact of the matter is that a much smaller percentage of the population than the internet would lead you to believe is going to be okay with "FREE HEALTHCARE FREE EDUCATION", especially without a well thought out plan of how to get there in a very short period of time, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who objects to the claim that rising health costs are growing out of control and here's a plan to keep prices in check
Also, the court already IS packed. What we should be talking about is restoring the court.
There is a special place in my heart for John Kasich :3
Actually, per one of the most basic principles of political science, in a two-party democratic system, the natural action is for both parties to converge on the center.
The reason the opposite is happening here is because our democracy is so broken. Between voter suppression, gerrymandering, the retarded winner-takes-all system for the electoral college (definitely unconstitutional, btw), and our absurd campaign finance laws that allow corporations and billionaires to exercise boundless influence over politics, the result is that our politicians are no longer accountable to the voters. That is literally the most fundamental problem (other than climate change) facing the US. If we fix that, a lot of other issues will naturally start to fall into place, because compromise will go back to being politically mandatory (as it was for big portions of our history).
Ioudaia, Shanzie, and Serpens land
...fact. The Dems nominated Biden, not Warren or Sanders, and they did so because a bunch of candidates conceded the race and threw their support behind Biden to prevent a Sanders victory. The choice was between his policies and "beat Trump". The party went with "beat Trump". Which was what I said:
I avoided going into the merits of those issues because they're not germane to Biden's strategy. Which is why neither Biden nor Harris are gonna say what they're gonna do about the federal courts (it's not just SCOTUS that they'd be stacking).
I think you're reading far too much into my posts. I'm pretty sure what I think of each of Sanders' or Warren's positions would easily exceed the RMB character limit. :P
Er, wait... which are you saying is definitely unconstitutional and why? 'cause if you've got a new argument about the EC, I'd like to hear it.
I am saying the winner take all system for the EC is unconstitutional (although honestly so are gerrymandering and voter suppression). The EC itself is fine and inherently constitutional. Stupid, in my opinion (because it dates to a time when the average citizen couldn't be "trusted" to vote and/or was literally illiterate), but fine, because before it was perverted by the winner-take-all system, at least you got an approximation of democracy. I.e. if a huge state went 51/49 for candidate A but a small state went 90/10 for candidate B, candidate B would win, in accordance with the will of the voters. Under the winner takes all system, candidate A would crush, despite the fact that the majority of the nation wants candidate B. That is veeerrrryyy clearly at odds with the intent of the system set up by the constitution.
Stuff's only unconstitutional if you accept that Constitution. If there is a Revolution, it really isn't unconstitutional 'cuz basically there is no Constitution.
So my advice is: initiate a Revolution.
Roendavar and Serpens land
Not this tired old sound bite again. Bernie bros are beginning to sound like the Republican hate machine railing against Clinton. Show me concrete proof that the rest of the candidates conceded the race and threw their support behind Biden to prevent a Sanders victory and not because Biden had a much better shot at winning support of not only the rest of the Democratic party but also has a much broader appeal to the country at large
Do I deny that Biden was their best chance at winning? No, I don't. One of the only smart things the DNC has done this half of the decade is not supporting Sanders because that would have all but guaranteed them a loss come November.
The only things preventing Sanders from doing better are that 1: his supporters and target demographic had an abysmal turnout, and 2: he alienated a very, very large percentage of the population with how far out there his policies and wording are. You don't gain support by vilifying the moderates for not being radical enough, and you don't make progress by making hideously expensive sweeping systemic changes overnight
Thats an issue for us in two years focus on winning the house, senate, and White House in November first
Sure, it's at odds with the intent, but that doesn't make it unconstitutional. But I think that a proportional EC would fix the problems with the system perfectly well, and is what we should do.
Also, why do you have a special place in your heart for Kasich?
LOL! I am definitely not a Bernie bro.
I'm not necessarily saying you are, but it's the same tired argument they all use
Fair enough.
As the Frisians say:
Net fjochtsje!
Don't fight!
(Edit: for a Germanic language btw, Frisian is ideal to write in the Cyrillic alphabet. Net fjochtsje would be Нет фёхче, which is remarkably shorter to write...)
Razzgriz, Athara magarat, San Montagna, and Nhoor
I haven't had the time yet to figure out what has happened and if it affects Nhoor.
"Retcon" sounds like some obscene French swearword though.
Razzgriz, Athara magarat, and Almorea
Because he seems like the only living Republican "politician" who hasn't entirely lost his mind/soul lol
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