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Ainslie wrote:still waiting on that family tree

I'm still waiting on getting my passion for stuff back.

It's been really quiet the past couple days

Dothrakia wrote:It's been really quiet the past couple days

Yeah, life man.

Dothrakia wrote:It's been really quiet the past couple days

The sound of silence is a treasure in this day and age of vocal minorities and drama queens.

Aktokra

Hello. I'm new around here.

How did you hear about The Western Isles?

I saw that it was one of the major roleplaying regions and liked the lack of an offsite forum, which should make RP easier.

What's some information about yourself (hobbies, interests, country, etc.)?

I live in the UK. I like classical civilisation, languages and astronomy.

What kind of nation are you trying to make?

A small, isolationist city state. I should get working on some factbooks.

How long does it take to get a map spot after applying?

Aktokra wrote:How long does it take to get a map spot after applying?

Welcome to TWI. Normally It takes less than one week

Athara Magarat and Aktokra

I will probably apply soon.

Aktokra wrote:Hello. I'm new around here.

How did you hear about The Western Isles?

I saw that it was one of the major roleplaying regions and liked the lack of an offsite forum, which should make RP easier.

What's some information about yourself (hobbies, interests, country, etc.)?

I live in the UK. I like classical civilisation, languages and astronomy.

What kind of nation are you trying to make?

A small, isolationist city state. I should get working on some factbooks.

How long does it take to get a map spot after applying?

Hello! Welcome to TWI :D Just in case you haven't seen it, here's the welcome dispatch:

Welcome!

LinkHello there. Thanks for joining the Western Isles!

You must be wondering what you can do here and how, what is expected of you and how to start role-playing... I'll try to answer these questions in this dispatch.

First of all, if you haven't done so already - go ahead and introduce yourself on our regional message board (RMB). You can post things like what country you're from, if you're new to NationStates or to role-playing (RP), what kind of a nation you want to create, and anything else you'd like to share.

About the Region

Where do we communicate?

  • IC communication (in-character, meaning role-playing) is done on the NationStates forums

  • OOC communication (out-of-character, from general chatting to world-building) is done on the RMB

  • Telegrams are usually OOC

We don't have offsite forums, so you don't have to worry about missing something else.

How does this region work?

We have a democratically elected government (you can run for office) which is in-charge of several aspects of the region:

  • Facilitating RP and promoting world-building and cooperation in the region

  • Managing the region in terms of regional rules and standards

  • Recruiting new players and managing our embassies with other regions

To really understand how we do, you can read through the following dispatches when you get a chance:

  • The Constitution - It details the responsibilities of the various government officers and the Founder, as well as the processes of legislation and elections in the region. Of course, there's no need to remember it all, but it's there if you need it.

  • The Regional Rules and Conduct - That's just... The rules. You know, don't be a jerk to others, don't spam the RMB, and so on. The map rules are also there, but we'll get to that in a minute.

  • The Regional information dispatch - Contains current and updating information about the region (recent stats of the region, weekly updates, important daily events, etc.).

  • The Regional Links dispatch - Contains useful links to other regional guides or interesting dispatches (list of alliances, the regional militia, World Assembly guide, guides on RP, and more).

This is confusing... Can anyone help?

Of course, most of us can. If you still have questions, you can do either of the following:

Your address for questions regarding specific RP rules (can this be done? can I take over that? can I have that size? etc.) is the Sec. of RP (Thuzbekistan). Feel free to tag him in your RMB post or to TG him.

About Role-Playing in the Region

How do I get a spot on the map?

Our regional map is the basis of our RP, and it is therefore reserved for nations who actively engage in RP or plan to do so. Before asking a spot, please first make sure you have at least one nation-building factbook (relating to some aspect of your nation) and at least one forum post.

To be added to the map, send Vancouvia a telegram with answers to several simple questions - they are listed under "Map Rules" in the Regional Rules and Conduct dispatch. In order to stay on the map, you need to be relatively active in regional RP. nation-building dispatches or RP posts in the forums at least once week or so, should be enough.

How do I develop my nation?

Here in this region we don't use NationStates stats at all. Population, economic status, main industries, defense budget - All of those things are up to you, the player, to decide! Make factbooks or dispatches describing your nation's culture, history, religion, government, budget, climate, military, science, industries, people, corporations, trade deals, and anything else you can think of.

Are there limitations?

RP in this region is based on realism and modern-technology, so keep your nation in those limits. There are a few other guidelines we have in place to keep things balanced, for example:

If you're having trouble coming up with realistic numbers, just search Wikipedia for information on the real-world countries your nation is based on (or related to), and use that. Remember that this is an island region, and that our nations are not the largest and richest in the world - so, for instence, don't take the size and scope of the US' armed forces as an example, and don't take China's economy as an example. Try to find a realistic balance that would fit an island nation. Tip: There are no "perfect" nations - all nations have their strengths and their weaknesses. The Sec. of Role-play (Thuzbekistan) or other members of the region can help you design your nation as well.

Other than that - the limit is your own creativity. Feel free to look around and read other nations' factbooks and dispatches for ideas. See for example:

For other interesting, creative, or highly informative factbooks by members of the region, check out The Western Isles Factbook Spotlight. Take some time to look around, get to know the other players and the region as a whole, and develop your nation. I recommend doing that before getting into RP.

Alright, what now? Where do I RP?

You can get to the region's ongoing RPs and events in either of the following ways:

  • Through the "Ongoing Events and Perpetual RPs" in the region's main page

  • Through the Active RPs of the Western Isles dispatch, which contains the region's RPs

As a start, I recommend reading the recent posts in the regional news thread and posting some of your own, before moving on to more complex RPs. This would allow players of the region to get acquainted with your nation.

And of course - you can always think of your own idea for an RP based on or in your nation, and recruit or interest others to join. I also recommend checking out the region's Alliances and Trade Agreements dispatch, where you might find other nations with similar interests and players to RP with; and the region's Marketplace, where you might find storefronts and corporations seeking to expand.

NS is full of useful guides for the technical or procedural aspect or RPing. This one, for example, is short and to the point. I've also published one myself, about RPing in our region. There are many more RP guides and tip dispatches or threads around the site - feel free to explore and learn more about RPing.

As always, for any question on RPing in the region or in general, feel free to ask on the RMB or send a personal TG to the Sec. of RP or any of the active members.

Read factbook

I like your idea of a small, isolationist city-state. Can't wait to see what you cook up.

As Dragao do Mar said, it usually takes a week or so to get onto the map after applying. However, if Vancouvia is busy, it might take as long as two weeks (but rarely more).

Ostehaar, Athara Magarat, Almorea, Dothrakia, and 2 othersKyrazakhstan, and Aktokra

"For a nation of barely 5 million, there sure are a lot of terror groups and criminal organizations in this country."

- Hostel's Father


The Eight Side War in the Hangate of Khumbuwan and the Ten Side War in Marubhumi Hangate and the three Chathas (both of which are considered to be part of the broader War Against SHOCK by other nations such as Vancouvia), are ongoing asymmetric conflicts fought by the Athara Magarati government and its allies against various terror groups and organized crime syndicates. In 1996, the newly formed Athara Magarati Federation of Hangates declared that though its constitution forbade the nation for ever declaring war against any other power; they had no other choice but to declare in a "state of war" against powerful criminal elements in the Hangate of Khumbuwan, Marubhumi Hangate and the two Chathas. The sudden rise of SHOCK in 21st Century saw nations such as Vancouvia join the conflicts on the side of the Magarati government specifically to combat the terror group.

Eight Side War



Belligerent 1

Belligerent 2

Belligerent 3

Belligerent 4

Belligerent 5

Belligerent 6

Belligerent 7

Belligerent 8

Athara Magarati Federation of Hangates

  • Hangate of Khumbuwan

Dragao do Mar

Vancouvia

SHOCK

Khumbuwan Nation

Lokshom Clan

Yorong Clan

Eagle Brigade

Hostel

Sindicato Aristocrático

Ten Side War



Belligerent 1

Belligerent 2

Belligerent 3

Belligerent 4

Belligerent 5

Belligerent 6

Belligerent 7

Belligerent 8

Belligerent 9

Belligerent 10

Athara Magarati Federation of Hangates

  • Marubhumi Hangate

Athara Magarati Federation of Hangates

  • Eastern Chatha

  • Western Chatha

San Montagna

  • South Chatha

SHOCK

Western Kyrazakhstan Province (alleged support)

The Struggle

Alliance for Independent Chatha

  • Praja Clan

  • Gaidu Guard

  • New Lortika

  • Chepangic Church Crusaders

People's Army of Greater Kochila

Eagle Brigade

Islamists

  • Talvar-i-Islamiya

  • Islamic State of Marubhumi and Kochila

Sindicato Aristocrático


Read dispatch

A word of advice: do not travel to these four hangates. The rest of the country is damn fine. The North is where your industries of Myagdi Island and great buildings of New Libang and the wonders of Arun Valley are at. Even geographically southern hangates like Sinja and Tamsaling get triggered at the "South" label.

Okay, but we do need to have a dispatch about War against SHOCK or something. Ignore the rest, would your nation have been involved in War Against SHOCK?. Those groups and places are a mess anyways.

Athara Magarat wrote:Would your nation have been involved in War Against SHOCK?

Of course

Is there a minimum population cap?

Aktokra wrote:Is there a minimum population cap?

If you want to have a city state, I guess there are some requirements to reflect cityness. But then again, there is a settlement in the Netherlands that is a city in name but has only 157 inhabitants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronkhorst

I was thinking more about the regional rules.

Aktokra wrote:Is there a minimum population cap?

There's no minimum population cap. Only a maximum one, rules-wise.

If you need to know what the population of other nations in TWI are like to determine yours, you can take a look here:


Hello magical place!

This dispatch will outline the rankings of The Western Isles map nations based on:

    (1) Population
    (2) GDP
    (3) GDP/capita

All information gathered are from the published factbooks of respective nations.

Some nations are missing. These are for various reasons, such as unclear information, conflicting information, lack of information, or numbers that breaches the hard limit set for TWI map nations. Remember, population cannot exceed 40 million, and GDP/capita cannot exceed $40,000 (and by extension, GDP cannot exceed $1.6 trillion)

Additionally, for some nations that are listed, I have inferred some statistics based on the information already provided. So for example, if population and GDP were provided, but not GDP/capita, I calculated and inferred that statistic, so as to be able to fully include that nation on these rankings.

These rankings may also be used by newer members to plan around how they want their statistics to be in light of the rest of the Region.

Otherwise, this is mostly for fun and information.

So without further ado, I present the rankings:


Population

"In sociology, population refers to a collection of humans"



Rank

Country

Population

% of TWI

1

Menna shuli

38,297,613

4.1

2

New Totzka

34,101,200

3.6

3

Keomora

32,000,000

3.4

4

Polar Svalbard

30,350,563

3.2

5

Razzgriz

29,471,338

3.1

6

Corindia

29,156,000

3.1

7

Vancouvia

29,115,104

3.1

8

Noronica

28,936,542

3.1

9

Thromsa

28,293,291

3.0

10

Eurania

28,110,645

3.0

11

Norstham

27,000,000

2.9

12

Veltora

26,926,125

2.9

13

Dothrakia

26,776,830

2.8

14

San Jimenez

26,382,457

2.8

15

Ainslie

26,324,933

2.8

16

Balnik

25,905,000

2.7

17

Miklania

25,723,763

2.7

18

Almorea

25,000,000

2.7

19

Thuzbekistan

24,600,000

2.6

20

Nhoor

23,886,147

2.5

21

ThePenguinLand

23,880,479

2.5

22

Alteran Republics

23,465,918

2.5

23

Enchanta

23,000,000

2.4

24

Dormill and Stiura

22,536,461

2.4

25

Dragao do Mar

22,073,515

2.3

26

Austrovik-Germania

21,600,560

2.3

27

Domanania

21,500,000

2.3

28

Tracera

21,000,000

2.2

Average

20,960,449

2.2

29

Nezaeva

20,700,000

2.2

30

Orsandia

20,458,394

2.2

31

Wellsia

20,267,120

2.1

32

Verdon

18,492,000

2.0

33

San Montagna

16,352,000

1.7

34

Scantarbia

16,000,000

1.7

35

Linaviar

13,036,000

1.4

36

Ostehaar

10,590,000

1.1

37

Townside

9,870,000

1.0

38

Michigonia

9,440,000

1.0

39

Yorrkon

9,400,000

1.0

40

Xrevaro

8,900,000

0.9

41

Roendavar

7,309,934

0.8

42

Belle Ilse en Terre

6,702,000

0.7

43

Athara Magarat

5,500,000

0.6

44

Negarakita

2,601,486

0.3

45

Cosie

2,186,777

0.2

The Western Isles total

943,220,195

100.0


GDP

"Gross domestic product (GDP) is a monetary measure of the market value of all the final goods and services produced in a specific time period, often annually."


Rank

Country

GDP

% of TWI

1

Polar Svalbard

913,551,946,300

4.1

2

Keomora

902,400,000,000

4.0

3

Miklania

871,000,000,000

3.9

4

Noronica

854,901,196,848

3.8

5

Norstham

837,000,000,000

3.7

6

Thromsa

807,658,361,308

3.6

7

Ainslie

789,000,000,000

3.5

8

Razzgriz

781,874,597,140

3.5

9

Domanania

750,000,000,000

3.4

10

Dothrakia

713,013,429,240

3.2

11

Eurania

694,119,054,706

3.1

12

San Jimenez

672,634,396,012

3.0

13

Veltora

658,000,000,000

2.9

14

Tracera

632,000,000,000

2.8

15

ThePenguinLand

620,750,880,000

2.8

16

Corindia

612,276,000,000

2.7

17

Alteran Republics

612,000,000,000

2.7

18

Almorea

608,000,000,000

2.7

19

Orsandia

588,000,000,000

2.6

20

Austrovik-Germania

578,462,996,800

2.6

21

Balnik

569,900,000,000

2.5

22

Vancouvia

565,400,000,000

2.5

23

Dragao do Mar

548,100,000,000

2.4

Average

497,212,565,402

2.2

24

Dormill and Stiura

455,852,274,772

2.0

25

Scantarbia

440,000,000,000

2.0

26

San Montagna

431,987,136,000

1.9

27

Verdon

406,800,000,000

1.8

28

Nezaeva

392,058,000,000

1.8

29

Thuzbekistan

383,760,000,000

1.7

30

Wellsia

341,095,637,499

1.5

31

Ostehaar

338,000,000,000

1.5

32

Nhoor

322,900,000,000

1.4

33

Enchanta

317,400,000,000

1.4

34

Michigonia

312,000,000,000

1.4

35

Townside

295,113,000,000

1.3

36

Yorrkon

272,881,000,000

1.2

37

Roendavar

259,500,000,000

1.2

38

Athara Magarat

252,000,000,000

1.1

39

New Totzka

244,642,008,800

1.1

40

Linaviar

217,700,000,000

1.0

41

Menna shuli

201,713,527,671

0.9

42

Belle Ilse en Terre

103,881,000,000

0.5

43

Xrevaro

103,500,000,000

0.5

44

Negarakita

77,800,000,000

0.3

45

Cosie

23,939,000,000

0.1

The Western Isles total GDP

22,374,565,443,096

100.0


GDP/capita

"GDP per capita is often considered an indicator of a country's standard of living; although this is problematic because GDP per capita is not a measure of personal income."



Rank

Country

GDP/capita

1

Athara Magarat

36,000

2

Roendavar

35,500

3

Miklania

33,859

4

Michigonia

33,050

5

Ostehaar

31,887

6

Norstham

31,000

7

Tracera

30,095

=8

Polar Svalbard

30,000

=8

Veltora

30,000

10

Negarakita

29,927

11

Townside

29,900

12

Ainslie

29,800

13

Noronica

29,544

14

Yorrkon

29,029

15

Orsandia

28,758

16

Thromsa

28,546

17

Keomora

28,200

18

Domanania

28,000

19

Scantarbia

27,500

20

Austrovik-Germania

26,780

21

Dothrakia

26,628

22

Razzgriz

26,530

23

San Montagna

26,418

24

Alteran Republics

26,080

25

ThePenguinLand

25,994

26

Dragao do Mar

24,800

27

Eurania

24,692

28

Almorea

24,501

Average regional GDP/capita

23,721

29

San Jimenez

22,469

30

Verdon

22,000

31

Balnik

22,000

32

Corindia

21,000

33

Dormill and Stiura

20,224

34

Vancouvia

19,419

35

Nezaeva

18,940

36

Wellsia

16,830

37

Linaviar

16,700

38

Thuzbekistan

15,600

39

Belle Ilse en Terre

15,500

40

Enchanta

13,800

41

Nhoor

13,520

42

Xrevaro

11,500

43

Cosie

10,947

44

New Totzka

7,174

45

Menna shuli

5,267


Some will note that the map changes constantly, almost every week, as civilisations rise and fall. It might also be noted that regular members change their statistics all the time, as opinions about power and might change from time to time. In light of this, please note that this dispatch is a one-off thing, and will likely become out of date by the next map update. It will not be updated regularly, if ever, due to the complexity and time-consuming nature of such a task.

Until then, sleep tight magical place.

Townside

Read dispatch

Razzgriz, Wellsia, Kyrazakhstan, and Aktokra

Nezaeva is below average in all categories, woooo!

I created an Issue Draft: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=468486

What do y'all think of it? Specifically, should I change the last effect line?

Townside wrote:There's no minimum population cap.

Corindia is just man who is unfathomably wealthy

Nezaeva wrote:Nezaeva is below average in all categories, woooo!

What is the value of the Nezaevan pound in US$?

Wellsia wrote:What is the value of the Nezaevan pound in US$?

1 : 1.25, its a 1:1 of the sterling pound

Going to be gone for a week, will have phone only. Limited access.

Anyone think its interesting that people are talking about what a big threat it is to the F-35 that Turkey will have the S-400 but no one is talking about the fact that a NATO ally will have the most advanced Russian Air Defense system and we could definitely have our techs pick it apart.

Dothrakia wrote:Anyone think its interesting that people are talking about what a big threat it is to the F-35 that Turkey will have the S-400 but no one is talking about the fact that a NATO ally will have the most advanced Russian Air Defense system and we could definitely have our techs pick it apart.

aren't the F-35s not that good in the first place?

Ainslie wrote:aren't the F-35s not that good in the first place?

They're good, the entire program was just a lot more expensive and time consuming than it was suppose to be.

The WA's recent resolutions have moved me from being an inoffensive centrist democracy to a demsoc nation...

EDIT: Phew. We're back now. Only took five over-conservative responses to issues.

I'm probably going to end up with the smallest population here.

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