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Balnik wrote:you don't remember flaming any of the newbies when they joined? Good times.

If I did that, I probably don't remember it.

Menna Shuli wrote:I can count on one hand the number of people who care about Sunalaya in this region.

That's really interesting, that's more than I assumed you could.

Dormill and Stiura wrote:If I did that, I probably don't remember it.

Lame.

Some people should go back there ...

Alright, lets cool down.

Balnik wrote:That's really interesting, that's more than I assumed you could.

1) DS.
2) You.

That leaves me wiggle room for three more people to show up. They won't though.

Menna Shuli wrote:1) DS.
2) You.

That leaves me wiggle room for three more people to show up. They won't though.

You never know.

Balnik wrote:You never know.

Eh I wouldn't bet on that happening.

Thuzbekistan wrote:NO

1. How are new members going to be treated in this? You gonna be pushing this in their face and possibly rob them of creative freedom by pressuring them to do this? Is wiki-style now gonna be the defacto style? How do we encourage new people to do more like cosie with a cookie cutter system like this encouraging them to do the copy-paste wiki?

I'm planning on doing this in a similar way to which we point people to ponderosa's wikistyle factbook - I'm not gonna be pressuring any new nations to do anything and you should know better than that to accuse me of being someone into that kinda thing.

Thuzbekistan wrote:
2. Why should anyone be encouraged to do this? Why should anyone care or use it?

It's not a lot more effort for existing wikistyle dispatches to be connected. People will be able to navigate a lot better and it fixes quite a few dispatch and NS related problems.

Thuzbekistan wrote:3. You're creating MORE work for the next SORP. Why?

Not going to be under OoRP. Project looks like high start up effort and low medium-long term maintenance though, but we'll see over time

Dormill and Stiura wrote:Eh I wouldn't bet on that happening.

Alyria came here, Veridi did too, and if the region follows it downwards trend I wouldn't be surprised.

Balnik wrote:That's really interesting, that's more than I assumed you could.

Technically, you can count to 0 on one hand.

I think there's been a lot of misunderstandings around this and I've probably glossed over some parts of TWIkipedia that I shouldn't have. Making some tweaks at the moment since i agree with quite a few things people have been saying.

Menna Shuli wrote:I can count on one hand the number of people who care about Sunalaya in this region.

I don't know who that is, but I care.

Edit: Is it a region or a nation? I thought it was a nation and I can't find it.

Ter Natiour wrote:I don't know who that is, but I care.

Edit: Is it a region or a nation? I thought it was a nation and I can't find it.

Context clues in the conversation should help you figure that out. If Balnik says that a trial by fire was required by newbs there, then it must be a...

Menna Shuli wrote:Context clues in the conversation should help you figure that out. If Balnik says that a trial by fire was required by newbs there, then it must be a...

I couldn't figure out what was going on. I thought you guys were talking about being mean to a person which went by the name of Sunalaya and to others. Like about being easier on the new joinees.

Ter Natiour wrote:I couldn't figure out what was going on. I thought you guys were talking about being mean to a person which went by the name of Sunalaya and to others. Like about being easier on the new joinees.

I was talking about the fact that we've been pretty harsh to Enchanta and that I feel guilty about the tone we've applied. Balnik brought up his old region like it's something to aspire to. Sunalaya is a region. D&S and Balnik reminisce about it a lot. It's not worth the time caring about.

Hello. New old nation here. Just wanted to introduce myself and look forward to being part of this region.

Vibor wrote:Hello. New old nation here. Just wanted to introduce myself and look forward to being part of this region.

Welcome to TWI. How might I help?

Dormill and Stiura wrote:Welcome to TWI. How might I help?

I'd love to settle here and be part of the rolelplay if that's possible?

Risking to sound like hose 11 producing mud (Dutch expression for someone who is late to react on events): did several potentially active players suddenly leave?

Vibor wrote:I'd love to settle here and be part of the rolelplay if that's possible?

Entirely possible, please have a read of the Welcome Dispatch and the rules and we'll be happy to work with you on joining our RP.

Nhoor wrote:Risking to sound like hose 11 producing mud (Dutch expression for someone who is late to react on events): did several potentially active players suddenly leave?

Not that I know of. That said, that's not uncommon in any region. People showing up, looking active, then ditching to a different region is fairly normal.

Vibor wrote:I'd love to settle here and be part of the rolelplay if that's possible?

Welcome!

LinkHello there. Thanks for joining the Western Isles!

You must be wondering what you can do here and how, what is expected of you and how to start role-playing... I'll try to answer these questions in this dispatch.

First of all, if you haven't done so already - go ahead and introduce yourself on our regional message board (RMB). You can post things like what country you're from, if you're new to NationStates or to role-playing (RP), what kind of a nation you want to create, and anything else you'd like to share.

About the Region

Where do we communicate?

  • IC communication (in-character, meaning role-playing) is done on the NationStates forums

  • OOC communication (out-of-character, from general chatting to world-building) is done on the RMB

  • Telegrams are usually OOC

We don't have offsite forums, so you don't have to worry about missing something else.

How does this region work?

We have a democratically elected government (you can run for office) which is in-charge of several aspects of the region:

  • Facilitating RP and promoting world-building and cooperation in the region

  • Managing the region in terms of regional rules and standards

  • Recruiting new players and managing our embassies with other regions

To really understand how we do, you can read through the following dispatches when you get a chance:

  • The Constitution - It details the responsibilities of the various government officers and the Founder, as well as the processes of legislation and elections in the region. Of course, there's no need to remember it all, but it's there if you need it.

  • The Regional Rules and Conduct - That's just... The rules. You know, don't be a jerk to others, don't spam the RMB, and so on. The map rules are also there, but we'll get to that in a minute.

  • The Regional information dispatch - Contains current and updating information about the region (recent stats of the region, weekly updates, important daily events, etc.).

  • The Regional Links dispatch - Contains useful links to other regional guides or interesting dispatches (list of alliances, the regional militia, World Assembly guide, guides on RP, and more).

This is confusing... Can anyone help?

Of course, most of us can. If you still have questions, you can do either of the following:

Your address for questions regarding specific RP rules (can this be done? can I take over that? can I have that size? etc.) is the Sec. of RP (Thuzbekistan). Feel free to tag him in your RMB post or to TG him.

About Role-Playing in the Region

How do I get a spot on the map?

Our regional map is the basis of our RP, and it is therefore reserved for nations who actively engage in RP or plan to do so. Before asking a spot, please first make sure you have at least one nation-building factbook (relating to some aspect of your nation) and at least one forum post.

To be added to the map, send Vancouvia a telegram with answers to several simple questions - they are listed under "Map Rules" in the Regional Rules and Conduct dispatch. In order to stay on the map, you need to be relatively active in regional RP. nation-building dispatches or RP posts in the forums at least once week or so, should be enough.

How do I develop my nation?

Here in this region we don't use NationStates stats at all. Population, economic status, main industries, defense budget - All of those things are up to you, the player, to decide! Make factbooks or dispatches describing your nation's culture, history, religion, government, budget, climate, military, science, industries, people, corporations, trade deals, and anything else you can think of.

Are there limitations?

RP in this region is based on realism and modern-technology, so keep your nation in those limits. There are a few other guidelines we have in place to keep things balanced, for example:

If you're having trouble coming up with realistic numbers, just search Wikipedia for information on the real-world countries your nation is based on (or related to), and use that. Remember that this is an island region, and that our nations are not the largest and richest in the world - so, for instence, don't take the size and scope of the US' armed forces as an example, and don't take China's economy as an example. Try to find a realistic balance that would fit an island nation. Tip: There are no "perfect" nations - all nations have their strengths and their weaknesses. The Sec. of Role-play (Thuzbekistan) or other members of the region can help you design your nation as well.

Other than that - the limit is your own creativity. Feel free to look around and read other nations' factbooks and dispatches for ideas. See for example:

For other interesting, creative, or highly informative factbooks by members of the region, check out The Western Isles Factbook Spotlight. Take some time to look around, get to know the other players and the region as a whole, and develop your nation. I recommend doing that before getting into RP.

Alright, what now? Where do I RP?

You can get to the region's ongoing RPs and events in either of the following ways:

  • Through the "Ongoing Events and Perpetual RPs" in the region's main page

  • Through the Active RPs of the Western Isles dispatch, which contains the region's RPs

As a start, I recommend reading the recent posts in the regional news thread and posting some of your own, before moving on to more complex RPs. This would allow players of the region to get acquainted with your nation.

And of course - you can always think of your own idea for an RP based on or in your nation, and recruit or interest others to join. I also recommend checking out the region's Alliances and Trade Agreements dispatch, where you might find other nations with similar interests and players to RP with; and the region's Marketplace, where you might find storefronts and corporations seeking to expand.

NS is full of useful guides for the technical or procedural aspect or RPing. This one, for example, is short and to the point. I've also published one myself, about RPing in our region. There are many more RP guides and tip dispatches or threads around the site - feel free to explore and learn more about RPing.

As always, for any question on RPing in the region or in general, feel free to ask on the RMB or send a personal TG to the Sec. of RP or any of the active members.

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Vibor wrote:Hello. New old nation here. Just wanted to introduce myself and look forward to being part of this region.

Vibor's flag looks oddly familiar..

Nhoor wrote:Vibor's flag looks oddly familiar..

I had the same flag on a second nation. Qusar.

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