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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Tbh I imagine they used polearms like giant clubs since getting through 15th century plate armour with cold steel can be... incredibly difficult. I.e. they battered the enemy into submission instead of cutting things and aiming for gaps in the steel in the heat of battle with a 7.5 meter Swiss pike is a bit... too much to ask.
Naginata-/Sōjutsu on the other hand tho...

Also, the British accidentally reinvented the naginata in 1942... to widespread condemnation...
https://64.media.tumblr.com/332b4305d50181d8c452026ad3e818be/tumblr_oe1spcNc4D1rwjpnyo3_1280.jpg

sticc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/619777688319557663/1001597425607266394/unknown.png
Somebody had a bad day

Otoh my plan was to go from one end of the line to the other and all four units of cav got stuck at the first two enemy units

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/619777688319557663/1001597425607266394/unknown.png
Somebody had a bad day

Otoh my plan was to go from one end of the line to the other and all four units of cav got stuck at the first two enemy units

If I saw that right, the enemy was light infantry - so yeah, someone had a bad day.

hhh
I am tempted to do something with this
Keep The islands of versilia as the main hustle
But do Italian funny here a
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versilia

The Selkie wrote:Important to note is, that a halberd, at least in Europe, is more of a formation weapon, many, many dudes standing next to each other and bracing, unlike similar weapons all over the world (if you want fancy fighting with a halberd-like weapon, look to east asia).

That ended up being addressed in the actual post with Hrodger and Ouruo. And it's a glaive, apparently, but I figured halberd was probably close enough.

The Selkie wrote:Wikipedia might have you on male Egyptian fashion.

yes

The Selkie wrote:I'm stumped on the sextant, but glad you wanted to throw a hoe at me (Netherite, I hope ; )). Now I get a cyclops.

nah it was just a busted metal hoe

The Selkie wrote:As for a chestplate, in German, there is the occupation of the Plattner, a specialized blacksmith making nothing but plate armour. They apparently mostly worked with the cold metal. If you want my recommendation, you should go gothic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_plate_armour ; ). That of course presumes, that you want to make a Late Medieval or Early Modern Plate Armour Chestplate, not one of the myriad of other such items.

Right now there's only one moment of the creation process because I found a 30-minute video on making a breastplate and I don't feel like writing a 30-minute passage.

Versilia wrote:hhh
I am tempted to do something with this
Keep The islands of versilia as the main hustle
But do Italian funny here a
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versilia

Tuscany is a fun place.

Ezhara wrote:That ended up being addressed in the actual post with Hrodger and Ouruo. And it's a glaive, apparently, but I figured halberd was probably close enough.

yes

nah it was just a busted metal hoe

Right now there's only one moment of the creation process because I found a 30-minute video on making a breastplate and I don't feel like writing a 30-minute passage.

There are many many differences between glaives and halberds (and pikes), but you are very likely to be very much aware of that.

Glad to be of help. : D

Aw... no Serious Dedication... ; )

Fair enough.

The Selkie wrote:There are many many differences between glaives and halberds (and pikes), but you are very likely to be very much aware of that.

as long as the fifghting styles aren;'t too distinct it's fine

Ezhara wrote:as long as the fifghting styles aren;'t too distinct it's fine

Which is the case.
A pike, a very long stick with a pointy bit, fights very distinctively from a halberd, a not-as-long stick with an axe and a lot of pointy bits used as a can opener, and a glaive, which is a blade on a not-as-long stick.
George Silver, a gentleman from the 16th century, apparently wrote, that a glaive in Europe was used similarly to a quarterstaff (not-as-long stick, possibly reinforced), half pike (not-as-long pike with elaborate head), bill (tool used for trimming tree limbs and human limbs), halberd (can opener), voulge (hacking tool bound to a not-as-long stick), or partisan (half pike with crossguard).
From that alone, we can infer, that a glaive is more a jack of all trades, used to whack people over the head with it, to cut, to thrust, maybe even to parry or in an anti-armour role. A highly complicated, specialized weapon requiring training and practice. Contrary to that, the halberd is a one-trick pony opening tin cans once they had been dehorsed, not requiring much training, but strength, while the pike is the classic infantry weapon of the late medieval, early modern era, before practical firearms and bayonets, requiring less skill or strength and more drill, like with their antique counterparts.
So, yes, the fighting styles are very distinct and pose very different requirements towards the user(s) - not to mention manpower requirements, as a singular pikeman is dead meat.

apparently it's Germany vs France in :football: tonight.

will there be a bloodbath? <.<

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:apparently it's Germany vs France in :football: tonight.

will there be a bloodbath? <.<

Women's Euro, semi-finals... no, not a bloodbath, but a lot of scratching and hair pulling...
No, fun aside, women's football is not a blood sport.

The Selkie wrote:Tuscany is a fun place.

Main issue being that I would prefer to do something non-human or demihuman and non-Western/non-European with it since I just prefer to do that
The most European thing I’ll do is make it some Roman LARP with cool Medieval Latin music :shrug:
But otherwise some variant on Dregh is more likely

Versilia wrote:Main issue being that I would prefer to do something non-human or demihuman and non-Western/non-European with it since I just prefer to do that
The most European thing I’ll do is make it some Roman LARP with cool Medieval Latin music :shrug:
But otherwise some variant on Dregh is more likely

Hm... if you want to stay in Tuscany, look into the Etruscans. They have some very interesting creatures in their art and mythology, among them the Tuchulcha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuchulcha), a chthonic daemon.

The Selkie wrote:Women's Euro, semi-finals... no, not a bloodbath, but a lot of scratching and hair pulling...
No, fun aside, women's football is not a blood sport.

it's Germany vs France

doesn't some violence come with that deal?
<.< >.>

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:it's Germany vs France

doesn't some violence come with that deal?
<.< >.>

No, not that I'd be aware of it.

The Selkie wrote:Which is the case.

Yea but the only video I could find for polearm fighting was for spears and halberds— nevermind I just didn't search too hard. Then again, I'd guess that the general techniques won't be too dissimilar? As it is right now, Hrdoger just has wide sweeps planned since his magic is associated with the gestures that he attacks with, which probably makes the glaive's diversity of attacks more ideal, anyway, and does allow for a more varied moveset than a bunch of halberd hits coming in from diagonals. It's surprising, really, just how much the description of the glaive seems to fit Hrodger (high maintenance that needs more care and skill to use).

More importantly, would glaives be viable in formation so that I could keep the analogy that Ouruo made about the Peaks being a clan of togetherness and fighting in formation wwwwww

Ezhara wrote:More importantly, would glaives be viable in formation so that I could keep the analogy that Ouruo made about the Peaks being a clan of togetherness and fighting in formation wwwwww

i mean if it works for naginata samurai in blocks of 160 (iirc) in total war shogun 2...

The Selkie wrote:Hm... if you want to stay in Tuscany, look into the Etruscans. They have some very interesting creatures in their art and mythology, among them the Tuchulcha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuchulcha), a chthonic daemon.

Now that seems more my style 👀
Chthonic mountain-dwelling Dregh

Sorta thinking Paleo-Iberian and Etruscan primary influences and inspirations/sources

Ezhara wrote:Yea but the only video I could find for polearm fighting was for spears and halberds— nevermind I just didn't search too hard. Then again, I'd guess that the general techniques won't be too dissimilar? As it is right now, Hrdoger just has wide sweeps planned since his magic is associated with the gestures that he attacks with, which probably makes the glaive's diversity of attacks more ideal, anyway, and does allow for a more varied moveset than a bunch of halberd hits coming in from diagonals. It's surprising, really, just how much the description of the glaive seems to fit Hrodger (high maintenance that needs more care and skill to use).

More importantly, would glaives be viable in formation so that I could keep the analogy that Ouruo made about the Peaks being a clan of togetherness and fighting in formation wwwwww

Glad to have been of help. : )

Versilia wrote:Now that seems more my style 👀
Chthonic mountain-dwelling Dregh

They do look metal, don't they?
Unfortunately...

Versilia wrote:Sorta thinking Paleo-Iberian and Etruscan primary influences and inspirations/sources

...I'm afraid, that I can't help you with that. Maybe JSTOR (https://www.jstor.org/) has something?

New Visayan Islands I've just readed about the earthquake. Are you alright?? Did it impact your area?

Mervay wrote:New Visayan Islands I've just readed about the earthquake. Are you alright?? Did it impact your area?

Not really, barely felt it when it hit. Junior's mother, on the other hand, was spooked as all hell; had to be if the tries to call me on my way home from work yesterday were any indication. IIRC her son from a previous relationship lives with her mom and younger half-siblings in the province hit hardest.

And I looked up the area and apparently there was a weak aftershock earlier this afternoon.

New Visayan Islands wrote:Not really, barely felt it when it hit. Junior's mother, on the other hand, was spooked as all hell; had to be if the tries to call me on my way home from work yesterday were any indication. IIRC her son from a previous relationship lives with her mom and younger half-siblings in the province hit hardest.

And I looked up the area and apparently there was a weak aftershock earlier this afternoon.

I am glad to hear, that you are alright. Please give our best wishes.

The Selkie

at the Chicago museum of science and industry

will say hi to the U-boat they have for you

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:The Selkie

at the Chicago museum of science and industry

will say hi to the U-boat they have for you

Thank you! : D

New Visayan Islands wrote:Not really, barely felt it when it hit. Junior's mother, on the other hand, was spooked as all hell; had to be if the tries to call me on my way home from work yesterday were any indication. IIRC her son from a previous relationship lives with her mom and younger half-siblings in the province hit hardest.

And I looked up the area and apparently there was a weak aftershock earlier this afternoon.

Thank god, I'm glad to hear you're ok mate. Please keep us updated.

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