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Patient Travel Freedoms

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Commend Ariusgrad

For

Patient Travel Freedoms

Against [non-WA and invalid; just wanted to post something and follow everyone else's format while doing so :)]

Amerion wrote:What is the point of poisoning the teas of my political opponents if all they’re going to do is hop on the next flight to Aumeltopia for medical treatment? This is an outrageous interference into the internal affairs of Amerion and one which the fat-cat bureaucrats of the World Assembly would be well advised to cease lest they find a bitter taste in their next cup of Oolong!

"Clause 3b states that a patient that's legally unable to make a decision on whether they'd leave the country or not for medical purposes due to ongoing legal procedures could be restricted from leaving the country. If this were to pass, perhaps you can sue them, so they may never flee to Aumeltopia!"
(replied assuming the post was IC)

Aside from the problem mentioned above, some of these clauses don't really legislate on patient travel freedoms alone, so I believe there should be a whole other broader resolution, rather than preventing a future resolution on a similar topic from passing due to duplication/redundancy.

Patient Travel Freedoms

For

This proposal would serve as replacement for the old resolution GA 456 "Freedom to Seek Medical Care II", which was repealed some time ago due to a blatant loophole (here's the OWL vote on that). This flaw has been fixed, and as the proposal guarantees the same rights enacted by the WA in the original resolution, I think it should now once again guarantee them by passing this new and improved version. Regarding the concerns of preventing future proposals with similar, broader goals, I believe it to be better to have a resolution patching the hole created by the recent repeal now than to leave it until a broader resolution comes along at some time; we can always repeal the older one if a satisfactory and likely-to-pass new one is presented.

Vote for proposal Patient Travel Freedoms has been ended.

Result:
For: 4
Against: 1

OWL recommendation: For

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'Death Penalty Ban'
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Background Information

Proposal title: 'Death Penalty Ban'
Author: Imperium Anglorum
Purpose: To internationally ban the death penalty, except for war crimes.

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The Office's Analysis

As resounding as it is short, the at-vote resolution "Death Penalty Ban" calls for the immediate abolishment of the death penalty in the name of human dignity, citing ineffectiveness and discrimination in its application, in addition to the horrifying, yet unescapable possibility of irreversibly executing innocents. Founded on the significantly lower probability of this happening before a wartime military tribunal, the sole exception to that ban is designated to be for crimes under a military penal code committed in war. The arguments presented for these measures are sound and to the point, plus, should member states in the future decide they warrant a ban on the death penalty for war crimes also, the wording of the proposal leaves room for future legislation to that effect without needing to repeal it first. Thus, OWL recommends a vote FOR the at-vote resolution, "Death Penalty Ban".

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From TSP Citizens

Arvan Irawer is a Citizen of the South Pacific.

Arvan Irawer wrote:The Death penalty is cruel and should be abolished. The proposal makes excellent points about the fact that the death penalty does nothing overall.

Tepertopia is a Deputy Chair in the South Pacific and the Secretary of OWL.

Tepertopia wrote:I believe the death penalty to be disproportionate and without a doubt not supportable for ordinary lawbreakers, and only in the most severe cases of war criminals, like a genocidal dictator, where a wrongful conviction simply isn't in the realm of the possible, their atrocious deeds are unquestionably unforgivable and allowing them what they denied their victims couldn't possibly be truly just, it should be an option. The proposal at hand makes this absolutely reasonable exception, and thus I can fully support it.

Qvait is a member of the South Pacific's Council on Regional Security and a former Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Qvait wrote:It is time for the World Assembly to impose limitations and inevitably implement a total and universal ban on judicial murder. This atrocious act has been used in the name of revenge, not justice, and judicial murder tends to be an act that is used against the wrongfully accused, unjust crimes, and political dissidents. The proposed resolution is a step in the right direction.

From the World

Kenmoria is a resident of Europe and a commended WA author. They stated the following on the NS forums:

Kenmoria wrote:“There’s not really much to dissect here, since the proposal is so simple. I actually quite like this, and it is a welcome change from Preventing the Execution of Innocents. Full support for this and any similar formulations of this draft.”

Makdon is a former WA Officer of the Rejected Realms. On TRR's forums, they argued:

Makdon wrote:For. The death penalty has no practical or moral benefits except when used in wartime.

Marxist Germany is a Citizen and former Senator of 10000 Islands. They posted on the NS forums:

Marxist Germany wrote:"The right to life is one that is inalienable from the womb to the tomb. This is a great step to be taken by the World Assembly, and it will receive my support."

Against

From TSP Citizens

Concrete Slab is a member of the South Pacific's Coral Guard and a member of OWL junior staff.

Concrete Slab wrote:Repealing something that protects the death penalty is one thing. Banning it outright is another issue completely. While the death penalty is used very infrequently within Concrete Slab, this proposal is a dramatic overreach of World Assembly law and treads on one of our most sacred and long-held rights. Passing this proposal would be grounds for Concrete Slab's potential exit from the World Assembly, and as such, Leader Stoneworth must vehemently recommend an AGAINST vote.

Greater Scottdascoda is a Citizen of the South Pacific.

Greater Scottdascoda wrote:It should be up to individual nations to decide to have the Death Penalty. An outright blanket ban would affect every nation under the WA Membership and I am sure there are a number of nations with the death Penalty active that would have to change their laws. There are some unforgivable crimes where it may be warranted. In relation to National Security. The Proposal Notes in Section 1. that the Death Penalty can be used by a military penal code in time of war. So not a outright Ban. I question in relation to Military crimes such as treasons and espionage as well as other matters of National Security. These same crimes can happen in non-wartime not just in wartime, but under the proposal the death penalty would not be allowed.

From the World

Wayneactia is a resident of Osiris. On the NS forums, they stated:

Wayneactia wrote:"While we do not impose the death penalty for any crimes committed within our borders, we recognize the right of other sovereign nations to punish their criminals as they see fit. This proposal is nothing more than the complete decimation of national sovereignty and we will absolutely not support it in any way."

Emnaria is a resident of 10000 Islands. They posted the following on XKI's forums:

Emnaria wrote:I believe the death penalty is essential. It shan't be used like the "national razor", but it is necessary for people who have murdered, tortured, and made terrorist attacks against people. It is no different than the war on terrorism, bomb terrorists, execute severe offenders. It is not always possible to keep people alive. I would love to vote to ban it but people like hitler or a mob boss need to be executed if they commit mass crimes. You COULD imprison people for life, but that takes up space and only makes them depressed and suicidal. That won't teach them anything because they're gonna die of old age anyway.



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NEW GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL DISCUSSION AND VOTE
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Title: Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"
Author: Imperium Anglorum
Purpose: To repeal previous legislation due to redundancy and it imposing disproportionate sanctions without due process.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:General Assembly Resolution #495 “Supporting and Valuing the Humanities” (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Educational) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly finds as follows:

  1. Subtle unintended consequences should not be ignored or dismissed just because they are difficult to understand. The target resolution (GA 495) has subtle unintended consequences that need explanation at length.

  2. GA 495 establishes a fundamentally broken control mechanism which states that another committee will '[ensure] that money accepted by nations or organisations from the WHF is used for the above established purpose'. It also states that 'if incorrect use of funds is reported, the GAO will cease the allowance of funds to the transgressing nation or organisation' (emphasis not in original). This anti-corruption mechanism creates massive harms. The passive construction of the section 5 suggests that the mere reporting of an incorrect use of funds triggers an embargo on General Accounting Office money. The Office has no explicit statutory authority to reject false or malicious reports. The Assembly supports many projects in member nations: GAO money in GA 263 'Uranium Mining Standards Act' s 8 helps prevent radiological accidents, GAO funds given in GA 97 'Quality in Health Services' support universal healthcare in poor countries, and funds disbursed by GA 80 'A Promotion of Basic Education' ensure that disadvantaged children are educated (including in the humanities).

  3. The target embargoes money until a member nation receives a favourable verdict, instead of ordering funds to stop only when a tribunal determines a violation has occurred. The extent of the embargo is also not limited to the specific project which is allegedly corrupt, as the resolution applies to the 'transgressing nation'. An education department buying school supplies with money allocated for building repairs can thus defund health services and schools on the opposite side of a nation.

  4. GA 495 also states '[t]he WHF shall exist to provide funding to constituent nations and non profit organisations within them to accomplish either in part or in full the following objectives'. There is no clause requiring that requestors only get money for projects which they could not pay for themselves, suggesting indirect diversion of funds, as nations can purposefully defund their schools, fill holes in the budget with General Fund money, and pocket the difference. Member nations should not be allowed to take Assembly funds dishonestly.

  5. The kinds of projects the WHF approves are not limited only to projects which have a primary effect in achieving the goals listed in the resolution. Section 3's 'accomplish either in part or in full' does not put a floor on how little is accomplished, opening the sewer doors to:

    1. Building a lazy river for university students to relax on, as the project in part helps to 'strengthen the academic enrichment of courses and create [humanities] electives', if people may paint murals on the walls or a chapel is attached.

    2. Organisations sending theology professors from across the country to theme parks, as it in part helps to 'hold nationwide symposiums to put on ... advancements in the various areas of the humanities'.

    3. A nation defunding its own humanities departments and shuffling the freed-up money to foreign bank accounts would create a need to 'support university degree programs that fall within the definition of the humanities', a problem at which this committee could then throw money.

  6. '[E]nsuring that money accepted by nations or organisations from the WHF is used for the above established purpose' in section 4(a) does nothing when the money is given for wasteful purposes. The clause seems as if it is supposed to stop nations from taking the money they receive and directly diverting it to other purposes. The clause does not stop indirect diversion as described above.

  7. Wasteful spending programs mean less money for food aid, pandemic relief, and basic education. Feel-good resolutions should not be supported when they are coupled with draconian punishments and provisions which leave open massive doors for squandering limited Assembly funds. Nor is it just to deprive member nations – without due process and, at best, on minor irregularities – of what they need to educate, heal, and protect their citizens. Repeal of GA 495 also will cause no substantial harm due to the provisions of GA 80 'A Promotion of Basic Education', which promote the same goals, without the overbearing penalties or the deficient anti-graft mechanisms of the target resolution.

Now, therefore, be GA 495 'Supporting and Valuing the Humanities' repealed.

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NEW SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL DISCUSSION AND VOTE
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Title: Commend Twobagger
Author: Jakker City

Purpose: To award Twobagger a badge of commendation for their service in 10000 Islands, contributions to the general defending community, and writings about switching R/D allegiances.

Jakker City wrote:The Security Council,

Affirming Twobagger as a nation that has spent years prioritizing values of community and region-building through their involvement in regions such as 10000 Islands,

Highlighting that records of the nominee's achievements are not publicly accessible and hoping that this proposal can serve to document several of them for future generations,

Applauding the 300+ times in which Twobagger was involved in defenses and liberations for regions in dire need. These actions supported sovereignty and ensured that hundreds of regions could govern how they saw fit. These efforts include:

  • Served as a role model of defending activity for many months in 2019 which inspired other defending nations to participate and led to Twobagger being recognized as the best nation for defense engagement that year;

  • Helped to ensure that The East Pacific went back to rightful members of the community after the region dealt with a government coup in 2019;

  • Coordinated troops of 10000 Islands to defend Philippines and participated in the siege of Anontia in 2019;

  • Led troops for 10000 Islands as a Tactical Officer in the overtaking of The Iron Confederacy in 2019, a region that promoted fascist ideals;

  • Contributed in the refounding of The Skeleton Army in 2012, a region that has been commended by this body;

  • Assisted in the organization of the resistance movement to bring Great Bights Mum back to the delegacy of The North Pacific in 2008 after the government was couped by Lewis and Clark;

Praising the nominee’s innovation to strengthen military operations in 10000 Islands and across defending. These accomplishments have left a lasting, positive impact on defending across the world because Twobagger not only developed a new military strategy that is still used today, but also ensured sustainability in defender leadership. These efforts include:

  • Oversaw the tactical officer transition of THX1138 as well as assisted in the officer training of Mingulay isle;

  • Designed technology that detected and stopped several foreign threats attempting to overtake a region which would have likely been successful otherwise;

  • Developed the military tactic for defenders to change delegacies of raiding nations during foreign occupations to reduce the pace that additional regional officers could eject nations. This approach also helps to maintain morale for nations in the occupied region and those involved in the defending;

Acknowledging the leadership of the nominee to build community within 10000 Islands and go above and beyond to look after other regional members such as:

  • Served as a senator for five terms and wrote a proposal to ensure that members of 10000 Islands' government received salaries in the form of the regional currency. This served as a foundation for the Wage Reform Act, as well as a proposal that inspired the Chief Executive to make government voting records public information;

  • Participated in several recruitment events like "Team Battles" to help the region grow in population, including the recruitment of future Senator Isles of Nixon as well as a future 10000 Islands Knight, at a time when automated efforts to recruit nations did not exist;

  • Engaged in multiple leadership initiatives for community integration including Mayor of Taco Island, which involved facilitating games and activities to bring nations together as well as Speaker for the Mayor Shelter Political Party, which included encouraging other nations to engage in regional politics;

Recognizing the nominee’s authorship of an essay that detailed their change in regional alliances and outlined considerations that a nation should make when faced with such difficult decisions,

Declaring that this nominee has showcased dedication to building regional communities and has left a lasting impact that warrants public recognition,

Hereby Commends Twobagger.

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Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

Present

Commend Twobagger

Present

Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

For

When we voted on an earlier version of this proposal, I complained about that version's wording not convincing me of a repeal being necessary. The proposal at hand however manages to point out the issue with the original resolution ‒ restricting access to many, even unrelated funds when misuse is only reported, not when a nation was actually found guilty of that ‒ and explain its consequences in a way that makes this reading of the resolution (which, to be fair, is not without dispute) satisfactorily believable. With the target resolution being redundant regardless of that, I think it wouldn't be dangerous to pass this proposal and repeal an unnecessary piece of bureaucracy.

Commend Twobagger

Against

Twobagger was a longtime defender in 10000 Islands until they switched sides and became a raider with the Black Hawks about a year (?) ago. This is a proposal by a TBH leader praising Twobagger's time in 10000 Islands. That sounds legitimate and reasonable at first, but really it seems to be just a sort of twisted way of getting another SC badge on a TBHer. Twobagger, as far as I can tell, did great military and civilian work in 10000 Islands -- but not really enough to merit a commendation on its own. The proposal also attempts to praise the way they handled switching sides from defender to raider -- but I'm not really sure why the SC should be looking favorably on people who switch to the harmful side of the R/D game.

Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

For

Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

For

Commend Twobagger

Against

While yes, the individual in question may at this time be raider-aligned, during their time as a defender, they did some good work in defending and, as the proposal has mentioned, has left positive, lasting impacts in the defendersphere. The nominee, in my eyes, would be worthy of a commendation. Additionally, their change from defender to raider has highlighted some issues that we face when dealing with the game which is still widely discussed between both sides of the R/D community.

Edit: I am now against because I now realize that this proposal is in bad faith, and this kind of bad faith acting has no place in the security council. Commendations and Condemnations should be made in good faith, to honor the work of someone who made significant contributions to nationstates. While on the surface it seemed to be made in good faith, it has become clear that it is a point of disrespect to "stick it to XKI" and therefore I change my vote to against.

*Note, I am an active member of the SPSF and my WA is not currently on my main nation*

Commend Ariusgard

For

Commend Twobagger

Present

Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

Present

Vote for proposal Commend Ariusgrad has been ended.

Result:
For: 7
Against: 0
Present: 2

OWL recommendation: For

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'Commend Northrop-Grumman'
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Background Information

Proposal title: 'Commend Northrop-Grumman'
Author: Makdon
Purpose: To reward Northrop-Grumman's extensive involvement in the creation of NationStates' Dark Theme and more than decade-long maintenance of various recordkeeping efforts with a badge of commendation.

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From TSP Citizens

Aumeltopia is a member of the South Pacific's Council on Regional Security and a former Secretary of OWL.

Aumeltopia wrote:Creating the dark theme is a pretty major achievement. Those here who are talking about how the commendation is "only about one archive" or whatever... the main thing being alluded to with all the light/dark references is the NS site theme that Northrop-Grumman created.

Neazland is a Citizen of the South Pacific.

Neazland wrote:Hard work put into nationstates and although the dark theme may be confusing (in my opinion) It adds a variety to NS and Northrop Grumman has been in NS for a very long time and has put hard work into that time. Helped with the record keeping. I believe that Northrop Grumman deserves a commendation.

From the World

Honeydewistania is a multi-time WA author and Citizen of the North Pacific. They posted the following on TNP's forums:

Honeydewistania wrote:I disagree strongly with the ‘we are commending them for this but we’re not saying it, tee hee!’ nonsense. The rules are the rules, even if they suck, but I’m still in favour as in spite of the dark theme not being included I think they are a worthy nominee

Eastern New England is the Foreign Affairs Secretary of 10000 Islands. On XKI's forums, they stated:

Eastern New England wrote:Even though the proposal reads weird out of context, creating Dark Theme along with keeping index(es) on nations' leaders and capital cities updated for the past one and a half decade is certainly commendable. I'm inclined to vote FOR.

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From TSP Citizens

Doge Land is a Legislator in the South Pacific.

Doge Land wrote:Dark theme? DARK THEME? dark theme kills more per year than discord light theme More seriously, half the resolution is about an archive, which is nice, but I never use it, because when I go look at the information of nations that are relevant to me, I look at their nation page or a dispatch.

Volaworand is a Legislator and Local Councillor in the South Pacific.

Volaworand wrote:This commendation is pretty thin on details, and browsing the dispatches mentioned, while admirable, didn't appear worthy of a commendation.

From the World

Shy Guyia is a Tactical Officer in 10000 Islands's military. They argued on XKI's forums:

Shy Guyia wrote:I don't really think something can be considered well-written if I need to ask Makdon what something actually means. You can't type the words dark theme but this is a very poor way to dance around it. Secondly, the part about UNITE does not seem to be relevant at all? It is a roleplaying thing NG used only a few times in one roleplay and is hosted on a decently read dispatch. It is not one of the big indexes but just a good bit of worldbuilding, which isn't really the most commendable thing (especially since the rest of the proposal is not about worldbuilding at all).

Boston Castle is a GA author and Citizen of the North Pacific. On TNP's forums, they stated:

Boston Castle wrote:Perhaps I just don’t see the point in things like the archives and what not, but this nominee doesn’t seem all that commendable to me. Against.



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Commend Twobagger

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The nominee has made notable contributions to the defender community, but also has switched R/D alignment in favor of raiders since then. Now, I neither think I can in good conscience support the commendation of a raider who operates as such in not exclusively anti-fascist missions, nor that we should completely dismiss the nominee's positive contributions before their change in allegiances.

Commend Twobagger

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I strongly oppose this proposed resolution as it was written by a raider for another raider. The Security Council should reserve commmendatory resolutions for those who have protected and preserved native communities, and while the subject in question has done so, they have since decided to join The Black Hawks and worked to undo all of the progress done against the destructive raids that plague so many communities.

Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

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Commend Twobagger

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Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

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Commend Twobagger

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Repeal "Supporting and Valuing the Humanities"

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