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Cedoria wrote:Definitely true of right-wing libertarians. I object to referring to them as 'libertarians' at all to be honest. There is nothing libertarian about complete corporate tyranny.

This is why I never call them "libertarian" alone, It's always either "Free-Market Libertarian" or "Ancap". Also, they made a big deal about "stealing" the term Libertarian from the left, boasting about it even. So IMO calling FML "Libertarian" is giving them an easy victory over us.

I'd say we arm the proletariat with crude rifles and commense conscript spam.

Union of comrads wrote:I'd say we arm the proletariat with crude rifles and commense conscript spam.

The result could be horrible though.

Post self-deleted by Greylyn.

We are at a record high 30th rank for regional population due to odd circumstance. Feels good. 👌

Hecknamistan wrote:This is why I never call them "libertarian" alone, It's always either "Free-Market Libertarian" or "Ancap". Also, they made a big deal about "stealing" the term Libertarian from the left, boasting about it even. So IMO calling FML "Libertarian" is giving them an easy victory over us.

Yep. I always push back against the right who cloak themselves in the stolen virtue of being libertarians, I've even quoted some of the An-Caps who boasted of their pilfering of the term. Most of them just deny it even happened. Pointless trying to reason with such types, but the more I point it out the more it reaches unaffiliated people who investigate more themselves, so that's good.

I completely concur on refusing to dignify them with the label of Libertarian, which at least has a noble and honourable tradition attached to it. They are advocates and apologists of corporate tyranny and slavery, pure and simple.

Union of comrads wrote:I'd say we arm the proletariat with crude rifles and commense conscript spam.

They're volunteering, not being forced. All revolutions are voluntary, especially socialist ones.

Union of comrads wrote:I'd say we arm the proletariat with crude rifles and commense conscript spam.

Probably only fair to point out that the whole "meatgrinder eastern front" stuff that led to the idea of wave upon wave of poorly trained Soviet recruits was largely a Nazi myth designed to play on the whole Asiatic Hordes idea. It was later picked up and propagated by western historians for similar propaganda based reasons and has largely been debunked. While it's certainly the case that the Soviet army in the early stages of WW2 suffered terrible defeats, the Soviets pushed back and won through superior tactics, logistics, equipment and training - not by throwing wave after wave of poorly equipped soldiers at the enemy.

Cedoria wrote:Definitely true of right-wing libertarians. I object to referring to them as 'libertarians' at all to be honest. There is nothing libertarian about complete corporate tyranny.

To be fair, some believe in limiting the power of corporations to have monopolies or influence over the state.

Here's an update on the Comrade Index and Young Comrade Index

Comrade Index

Be a comrade and UPVOTE!

Comrade Index


Who is the best comrade in The Leftist Assembly? See where you score Linkhere.

Score = AI + CM + CR + GS + HD + IN + PE + PH + PT + WE

---

AI = (Average Income of Poor ÷ TLA #1) × 10
CM = (Compassion ÷ TLA #1) × 10
CR = ((1 ÷ Corruption) ÷ (1 ÷ TLA #1)) × 10
GS = (Government Size ÷ TLA #1) × 10
HD = ((Human Development Index ÷ TLA #1) ^ 2) × 10
IN = (Inclusiveness ÷ TLA #1) × 10
PE = (Public Education ÷ TLA #1) × 10
PH = (Public Healthcare ÷ TLA #1) × 10
PT = (Public Tranport ÷ TLA #1) × 10
WE = (Welfare ÷ TLA #1) × 10

---

In effect, this means first in each category gets 10 points, with a maximum of 100 points if first in all 10 categories.

Current


Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Caracasus

81.395

=

2

Llorens

81.004

=

3

Cedoria

78.989

=

4

Sonna

75.177

=

5

Socialist Columbia

72.373

=

6

Tannkrem

71.814

=

7

Katosima

71.179

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

68.453

=

9

Schuvicrya

64.090

=

10

Mexican Communists

62.166

=

11

VegemiteIsGross

61.207

+1

12

Wybodia

60.919

+1

13

Die Friedlichelaender

60.754

+1

14

United Socialist Republics of LAN

60.185

+1

15

Groghner

57.104

+1

As of 16 June 2019.

Archive


Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.518

NEW

2

Llorens

76.123

NEW

3

Cedoria

71.966

NEW

4

Tannkrem

69.395

NEW

5

Sonna

68.689

NEW

6

Katosima

67.271

NEW

7

Socialist Columbia

67.079

NEW

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.403

NEW

9

Rathfarnham

59.268

NEW

10

VegemiteIsGross

57.053

NEW

11

Mexican Communists

57.027

NEW

12

Die Friedlichelaender

56.471

NEW

13

Workers of spain

55.929

NEW

14

Rusovet

55.717

NEW

15

Vendettium

55.437

NEW

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.455

=

2

Llorens

74.872

=

3

Cedoria

72.183

=

4

Tannkrem

69.323

=

5

Sonna

68.720

=

6

Socialist Columbia

67.472

+1

7

Katosima

67.203

-1

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.347

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.203

=

10

VegemiteIsGross

56.990

=

11

Mexican Communists

56.974

=

12

Die Friedlichelaender

56.775

=

13

The utopia of japan

55.907

NEW

14

Workers of spain

55.867

-1

15

Vendettium

55.397

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.405

=

2

Llorens

74.869

=

3

Cedoria

72.420

=

4

Tannkrem

69.264

=

5

Sonna

68.546

=

6

Socialist Columbia

67.835

=

7

Katosima

67.162

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.289

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.162

=

10

Die Friedlichelaender

57.132

+2

11

VegemiteIsGross

56.997

-1

12

Mexican Communists

56.952

-1

13

The utopia of japan

55.860

=

14

Workers of spain

55.858

=

15

Vendettium

55.357

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.402

=

2

Llorens

75.026

=

3

Cedoria

72.297

=

4

Tannkrem

69.263

=

5

Sonna

68.869

=

6

Socialist Columbia

67.718

=

7

Katosima

67.162

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.289

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.161

=

10

United Socialist Republics of LAN

58.258

+8

11

Schuvicrya

57.529

NEW

12

Die Friedlichelaender

57.441

-2

13

VegemiteIsGross

57.093

-2

14

Mexican Communists

57.060

-2

15

The utopia of japan

56.048

-2

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.355

=

2

Llorens

75.252

=

3

Cedoria

72.605

=

4

Tannkrem

69.205

=

5

Sonna

68.959

=

6

Socialist Columbia

67.721

=

7

Katosima

67.111

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.240

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.111

=

10

United Socialist Republics of LAN

58.469

=

11

VegemiteIsGross

57.696

+2

12

Schuvicrya

57.479

-1

13

Die Friedlichelaender

57.356

-1

14

Mexican Communists

57.027

=

15

The utopia of japan

56.000

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.262

=

2

Llorens

75.296

=

3

Cedoria

72.667

=

4

Tannkrem

69.111

=

5

Sonna

69.078

=

6

Socialist Columbia

68.233

=

7

Katosima

67.022

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.170

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.026

=

10

VegemiteIsGross

58.154

+1

11

United Socialist Republics of LAN

57.458

-1

12

Die Friedlichelaender

57.431

+1

13

Schuvicrya

57.408

-1

14

Mexican Communists

56.937

=

15

The utopia of japan

56.143

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.174

=

2

Llorens

75.640

=

3

Cedoria

72.587

=

4

Sonna

69.347

+1

5

Tannkrem

69.063

-1

6

Socialist Columbia

68.139

=

7

Katosima

66.938

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.102

=

9

Rathfarnham

58.943

=

10

VegemiteIsGross

58.139

=

11

Die Friedlichelaender

57.516

+1

12

United Socialist Republics of LAN

57.378

-1

13

Schuvicrya

57.274

=

14

Mexican Communists

56.857

=

15

The utopia of japan

56.682

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.218

=

2

Llorens

75.862

=

3

Cedoria

72.756

=

4

Sonna

69.421

=

5

Tannkrem

69.101

=

6

Socialist Columbia

68.272

=

7

Katosima

66.971

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.120

=

9

Rathfarnham

58.978

=

10

VegemiteIsGross

58.171

=

11

Die Friedlichelaender

58.037

=

12

United Socialist Republics of LAN

57.487

=

13

Schuvicrya

57.300

=

14

The utopia of japan

56.941

+1

15

Mexican Communists

56.905

-1

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.523

=

2

Llorens

76.184

=

3

Cedoria

72.670

=

4

Sonna

70.260

=

5

Tannkrem

69.395

=

6

Socialist Columbia

68.802

=

7

Katosima

67.307

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.394

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.294

=

10

VegemiteIsGross

58.488

=

11

Die Friedlichelaender

58.229

=

12

United Socialist Republics of LAN

57.681

=

13

Schuvicrya

57.504

=

14

Mexican Communists

57.268

+1

15

The utopia of japan

57.202

-1

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.398

=

2

Llorens

76.267

=

3

Cedoria

72.769

=

4

Sonna

70.493

=

5

Tannkrem

69.304

=

6

Socialist Columbia

68.894

=

7

Katosima

67.209

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.314

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.199

=

10

Die Friedlichelaender

58.652

+1

11

VegemiteIsGross

58.500

-1

12

Schuvicrya

57.683

+1

13

Mexican Communists

57.152

+1

14

The utopia of japan

57.106

+1

15

United Socialist Republics of LAN

57.089

-1

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

84.319

=

2

Llorens

76.511

=

3

Cedoria

72.707

=

4

Sonna

70.650

=

5

Tannkrem

69.220

=

6

Socialist Columbia

68.794

=

7

Katosima

67.131

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

64.250

=

9

Rathfarnham

59.123

=

10

Die Friedlichelaender

58.600

=

11

VegemiteIsGross

58.423

=

12

Schuvicrya

58.101

=

13

Mexican Communists

57.081

=

14

The utopia of japan

57.035

=

15

United Socialist Republics of LAN

57.016

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

83.185

=

2

Caracasus

77.897

NEW

3

Llorens

74.906

-1

4

Cedoria

71.320

-1

5

Sonna

69.295

-1

6

Tannkrem

67.874

-1

7

Socialist Columbia

67.351

-1

8

Katosima

65.730

-1

9

New Prague Workers Republic

63.080

-1

10

Rathfarnham

57.841

-1

11

Schuvicrya

57.334

+1

12

Die Friedlichelaender

57.180

-2

13

VegemiteIsGross

57.040

-2

14

United Socialist Republics of LAN

56.384

+1

15

Mexican Communists

55.980

-2

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

83.092

=

2

Caracasus

77.814

=

3

Llorens

75.007

=

4

Cedoria

71.520

=

5

Sonna

69.345

=

6

Tannkrem

67.778

=

7

Socialist Columbia

67.474

=

8

Katosima

65.724

=

9

New Prague Workers Republic

63.075

=

10

Rathfarnham

57.817

=

11

Die Friedlichelaender

57.269

+1

12

Schuvicrya

57.262

-1

13

VegemiteIsGross

57.040

=

14

Mexican Communists

55.995

+1

15

The utopia of japan

55.623

+1

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

83.076

=

2

Caracasus

77.818

=

3

Llorens

75.018

=

4

Cedoria

71.458

=

5

Sonna

69.419

=

6

Tannkrem

67.762

=

7

Socialist Columbia

67.762

=

8

Katosima

65.709

=

9

New Prague Workers Republic

63.068

=

10

Rathfarnham

57.803

=

11

Die Friedlichelaender

57.257

=

12

Schuvicrya

57.240

=

13

VegemiteIsGross

57.026

=

14

Mexican Communists

55.978

=

15

United Socialist Republics of LAN

55.781

+1

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

83.051

=

2

Caracasus

77.821

=

3

Llorens

75.039

=

4

Cedoria

71.527

=

5

Sonna

69.805

=

6

Tannkrem

67.735

=

7

Socialist Columbia

67.435

=

8

Katosima

65.684

=

9

New Prague Workers Republic

63.042

=

10

Wybodia

57.780

NEW

11

Rathfarnham

57.780

-1

12

Die Friedlichelaender

57.347

-1

13

Schuvicrya

57.266

-1

14

VegemiteIsGross

57.000

-1

15

Mexican Communists

55.958

-1

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

83.056

=

2

Caracasus

77.907

=

3

Llorens

75.150

=

4

Cedoria

71.522

=

5

Sonna

70.098

=

6

Tannkrem

67.715

=

7

Socialist Columbia

67.434

=

8

Katosima

65.688

=

9

New Prague Workers Republic

63.042

=

10

Wybodia

57.860

=

11

Rathfarnham

57.781

=

12

Schuvicrya

57.375

+1

13

Die Friedlichelaender

57.315

-1

14

VegemiteIsGross

57.073

=

15

Mexican Communists

55.967

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Vanzef

80.395

=

2

Caracasus

75.710

=

3

Llorens

73.389

=

4

Cedoria

71.589

=

5

Sonna

68.868

=

6

Tannkrem

65.756

=

7

Socialist Columbia

65.743

=

8

Katosima

64.229

=

9

New Prague Workers Republic

61.795

=

10

Kihdis

58.562

NEW

11

Schuvicrya

57.076

+1

12

Rathfarnham

56.639

-1

13

Wybodia

56.541

-3

14

Die Friedlichelaender

56.015

-1

15

Mexican Communists

55.944

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Caracasus

81.554

+1

2

Llorens

80.990

+1

3

Cedoria

78.756

+1

4

Sonna

75.264

+1

5

Socialist Columbia

72.418

+2

6

Tannkrem

71.892

=

7

Katosima

71.208

+1

8

New Prague Workers Republic

68.453

+1

9

Schuvicrya

63.939

+2

10

Mexican Communists

62.167

+5

11

Rathfarnham

62.049

+1

12

VegemiteIsGross

61.247

+4

13

Wybodia

61.009

=

14

Die Friedlichelaender

60.729

=

15

United Socialist Republics of LAN

60.249

+2

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Caracasus

81.395

=

2

Llorens

81.004

=

3

Cedoria

78.989

=

4

Sonna

75.177

=

5

Socialist Columbia

72.373

=

6

Tannkrem

71.814

=

7

Katosima

71.179

=

8

New Prague Workers Republic

68.453

=

9

Schuvicrya

64.090

=

10

Mexican Communists

62.166

=

11

VegemiteIsGross

61.207

+1

12

Wybodia

60.919

+1

13

Die Friedlichelaender

60.754

+1

14

United Socialist Republics of LAN

60.185

+1

15

Groghner

57.104

+1

Credit to Llorens for the original concept and managing the Comrade Index prior to 13 May 2019
Read dispatch


A new nation comes in at tenth place in the Comrade Index.

Young Comrade Index

Be a comrade and UPVOTE!

Young Comrade Index


Who is the best young comrade in The Leftist Assembly? See where you score Linkhere.

Score = AI + CM + CR + GS + HD + IN + PE + PH + PT + WE

---

AI = (Average Income of Poor ÷ TLA #1) × 10
CM = (Compassion ÷ TLA #1) × 10
CR = ((1 ÷ Corruption) ÷ (1 ÷ TLA #1)) × 10
GS = (Government Size ÷ TLA #1) × 10
HD = ((Human Development Index ÷ TLA #1) ^ 2) × 10
IN = (Inclusiveness ÷ TLA #1) × 10
PE = (Public Education ÷ TLA #1) × 10
PH = (Public Healthcare ÷ TLA #1) × 10
PT = (Public Tranport ÷ TLA #1) × 10
WE = (Welfare ÷ TLA #1) × 10

---

In effect, this means first in each category gets 10 points, with a maximum of 100 points if first in all 10 categories.

---

Only for nations with a population under 200 million.

Current


Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Yudimar

22.526

=

2

Fromidia

21.689

+1

3

Socialist Councils

20.311

+2

4

Northica

19.181

+2

5

Anarchist Free Thought

18.334

+6

6

Vazig

17.982

+2

7

Nefaniann

17.612

+7

8

Gonzosia

17.588

+11

9

Perma Terra

17.513

+6

10

Rebel olversome

17.040

+2

11

Ackavania

17.386

+2

12

Yuktobanians

16.855

+16

13

Kaihogarasu

16.748

+4

14

Aunan

16.618

+39

15

Shourawia

16.615

-6

As of 16 June 2019.

Archive


Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Schirmeria

20.819

NEW

2

Zemel

20.562

NEW

3

Peoples Republic of Socialism

20.390

NEW

4

The utalian collective

20.312

NEW

5

Dinobots

20.048

NEW

6

Faemand

19.605

NEW

7

Syntrofia

19.570

NEW

8

Mehrhotra

19.239

NEW

9

Strosfis

18.387

NEW

10

La lando

18.164

NEW

11

Syndicalist Municipalities

17.635

NEW

12

Novorkov

17.576

NEW

13

Minolta

17.139

NEW

14

Ylevitee

17.062

NEW

15

New jilitania

16.848

NEW

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Schirmeria

25.839

=

2

Dinobots

21.808

+3

3

Syntrofia

21.798

+4

4

The utalian collective

20.748

=

5

Faemand

20.436

+1

6

Anguisia

20.055

+18

7

La lando

19.651

+3

8

Strosfis

19.019

+1

9

Novorkov

18.823

+3

10

Syndicalist Municipalities

18.354

+1

11

Yelvadica

18.339

+18

12

Minolta

17.512

+1

13

Flatburg

17.291

+5

14

Pasene

17.250

NEW

15

Ylevitee

17.183

-1

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Syntrofia

21.803

+2

2

Dinobots

21.130

+8

3

Anguisia

20.192

+3

4

La lando

19.477

+3

5

Yelvadica

19.163

+6

6

Strosfis

18.645

+2

7

Pasene

18.404

+7

8

Terra Gnosis

18.167

+8

9

Ylevitee

18.034

+6

10

Flatburg

17.688

+3

11

Beaula bay

17.540

+47

12

Syndieland

17.127

NEW

13

Neukolonia

17.037

+6

14

Faerein

16.621

+3

15

Penter

16.329

+12

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Anguisia

23.175

+2

2

Syndicalist Municipalities

22.315

=

3

Dopago

21.532

NEW

4

Terra Gnosis

19.769

+4

5

Yelvadica

19.134

=

6

Pasene

18.666

+1

7

Flatburg

18.013

+3

8

Beaula bay

17.516

+3

9

Syndieland

17.340

+3

10

Neukolonia

16.789

+3

11

Faerein

16.594

+3

12

Holy empire and dictatorship of sprawl

16.577

+13

13

Penter

16.306

+2

14

JJHUT

16.292

+38

15

Dragonn

16.230

+13

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Syndieland

20.262

+8

2

Yelvadica

19.135

+3

3

Kalordolor

18.915

+20

4

Pasene

18.832

+2

5

Dragonn

18.507

+10

6

Evelynd

18.303

+21

7

Faerein

17.616

+4

8

Anguisia

17.600

-7

9

Beaula bay

17.515

-1

10

Sessanueva

17.301

NEW

11

JJHUT

17.259

+3

12

United Vegan Communes

17.143

+12

13

Neukolonia

16.928

-3

14

The Splintonian Empire

16.818

+76

15

Holy empire and dictatorship of sprawl

16.520

-3

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Syndieland

21.969

=

2

Kalordolor

20.305

+1

3

Evelynd

20.074

+3

4

Lucindia

19.191

NEW

5

Yell heah

19.025

NEW

6

Pasene

19.000

-2

7

Dragonn

18.672

-2

8

JJHUT

18.537

+3

9

Thicc blunts

18.147

NEW

10

Faerein

17.807

NEW

11

Beaula bay

17.662

-2

12

United Vegan Communes

17.529

=

13

Enbya

17.126

+3

14

The Splintonian Empire

17.045

=

15

Holy empire and dictatorship of sprawl

16.806

=

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Syndieland

22.122

=

2

Evelynd

21.209

+1

3

Yell heah

20.355

+2

4

Lucindia

20.326

=

5

Enbya

19.599

+8

6

Pasene

18.835

=

7

Thicc blunts

18.077

+2

8

Karwan

17.162

+8

9

Black Emperor

16.803

NEW

10

Holy empire and dictatorship of sprawl

16.487

+5

11

Bordigstan

16.477

+13

12

Balklavin

16.456

+6

13

United new sign

16.351

NEW

14

Opocks

16.245

+6

15

The Soviet East

15.937

NEW

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Syndieland

24.379

=

2

Yell heah

22.317

+1

3

Evelynd

22.005

-1

4

Lucindia

20.343

=

5

Enbya

20.306

=

6

Thicc blunts

18.175

+1

7

Bufo

17.235

NEW

8

Pacuatan

17.200

+18

9

Bordigstan

17.106

+2

10

The Soviet East

16.797

+5

11

United Vegan Communes

16.757

+7

12

Holy empire and dictatorship of sprawl

16.464

-2

13

Balklavin

16.434

-1

14

United new sign

16.328

-1

15

Black Emperor

16.142

-6

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Lucindia

19.942

+3

2

The Soviet East

19.932

+8

3

Pacuatan

19.115

+5

4

Bordigstan

18.823

+5

5

Thunorsburg

17.939

+36

6

Thicc blunts

17.701

=

7

Miiland

17.675

+26

8

Black Emperor

17.447

+7

9

Bufo

16.819

-1

10

Socialist republic of bongol

16.653

NEW

11

Costabuena

16.646

+16

12

Collective of the Balkans

16.517

NEW

13

Konstantinopel

16.391

NEW

14

HardBassSlavia

16.152

+51

15

Banthaygia

16.036

+15

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

The Soviet East

21.427

+1

2

Bordigstan

20.761

+2

3

Miiland

20.288

+4

4

Pacuatan

19.115

-1

5

Black Emperor

19.352

+3

6

Collective of the Balkans

18.761

+6

7

HardBassSlavia

18.739

+7

8

Operarios fratrum

18.603

+31

9

Thunorsburg

18.317

-4

10

Costabuena

17.964

+1

11

Thicc blunts

17.671

-5

12

Wakktarania

17.153

+8

13

The Socialist Irish State

16.991

+27

14

Peccochia

16.796

+4

15

Bufo

16.796

-6

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

The Soviet East

21.389

=

2

Miiland

20.584

+1

3

Collective of the Balkans

19.988

+3

4

Black Emperor

19.347

+1

5

Pacuatan

19.279

-1

6

HardBassSlavia

19.000

+1

7

Operarios fratrum

18.973

+1

8

Costabuena

18.717

+2

9

Thicc blunts

17.668

+2

10

Trsat

17.579

+6

11

Wakktarania

17.245

+1

12

Peccochia

17.214

+2

13

The Socialist Irish State

16.994

=

14

Bufo

16.792

+1

15

Oh tori

16.598

+8

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Collective of the Balkans

21.399

+2

2

Costabuena

20.926

+6

3

Miiland

20.713

-1

4

HardBassSlavia

19.915

+2

5

The Socialist Irish State

19.490

+8

6

Black Emperor

19.337

-2

7

Operarios fratrum

18.965

=

8

Peccochia

18.717

+4

9

Thunorsburg

18.558

+11

10

Wakktarania

18.543

+1

11

Afterward

17.479

NEW

12

The Four Provinces of Ireland

17.261

+4

13

Rechitopia

16.950

+9

14

Oh tori

16.861

+1

15

Socialist republic of bongol

16.745

+6

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Costabuena

23.127

+1

2

Collective of the Balkans

22.428

-1

3

The Socialist Irish State

21.523

+2

4

Rechitopia

19.454

+9

5

Operarios fratrum

18.962

+2

6

Peccochia

18.715

+2

7

The Four Provinces of Ireland

17.717

+5

8

Oh tori

17.079

+6

9

Rebel olversome

16.942

+51

10

Welshpool

16.938

+6

11

Socialist republic of bongol

16.712

+4

12

Afterward

16.424

-1

13

Mundo Pombladores

16.377

+9

14

Konstantinopel

16.354

+4

15

Kamigami-no-Yamato

15.900

+38

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

The Socialist Irish State

20.998

+2

2

Rechitopia

19.283

+2

3

Operarios fratrum

18.265

+2

4

Peccochia

17.857

+2

5

Oh tori

16.706

+3

6

Welshpool

16.616

+4

7

Kamigami-no-Yamato

16.474

+8

8

Socialist and Democratic Borealia

16.407

+60

9

Yudimar

16.254

+44

10

Rebel olversome

16.182

-1

11

Socialist republic of bongol

16.014

=

12

Vazig

15.870

+5

13

Afterward

15.699

-1

14

Perma Terra

15.598

+4

15

Fromidia

15.070

NEW

Rank

Nation

Score (/100)

Movement

1

Yudimar

21.589

+8

2

Socialist and Democratic Borealia

20.779

+7

3

Fromidia

19.843

+12

4

Welshpool

19.181

+2

5

Socialist Councils

18.889

+14

6

Northica

18.704

+15

7

Kamigami-no-Yamato

18.660

=

8

Vazig

18.041

+4

9

Shourawia

17.813

+22

10

Oh tori

17.795

-5

11

Anarchist Free Thought

17.386

+15

12

Rebel olversome

17.076

-2

13

Ackavania

16.886

+56

14

Nefaniann

16.801

+2

15

Perma Terra

15.070

-1


Credit to Great varia for the original concept.
Credit to Llorens for managing the Young Comrade Index prior to 13 May 2019.
Read dispatch


Lots of movement this week.

Llorens wrote:We are at a record high 30th rank for regional population due to odd circumstance. Feels good. 👌

Adding to this, we are also 14th place in all non-puppet storage User Created Regions! (Everybody "spawns" in Feeders and Sinkers, and you can make as many puppets as possible in puppet storages, so they have an unfair advantage) You can check the full ranking here

Post self-deleted by Greylyn.

Caracasus wrote:Probably only fair to point out that the whole "meatgrinder eastern front" stuff that led to the idea of wave upon wave of poorly trained Soviet recruits was largely a Nazi myth designed to play on the whole Asiatic Hordes idea. It was later picked up and propagated by western historians for similar propaganda based reasons and has largely been debunked. While it's certainly the case that the Soviet army in the early stages of WW2 suffered terrible defeats, the Soviets pushed back and won through superior tactics, logistics, equipment and training - not by throwing wave after wave of poorly equipped soldiers at the enemy.

To build on that a little, most of what we were told about the Soviet military during and after WWII was pointed propaganda. Some of it to make the Soviets seem less powerful, some to make them seem more or less scary, and some to make them seem like pure evil. For instance the "At the beginning of a battle, troops would receive their armaments as they were running into the field, and there were often shortages so sometimes multiple people used one gun" is meant to make them seem ineffective and unprepared. The "The Soviets shot soldiers who stopped progressing" is meant to make the Soviets seem like an evil - despite the earliest publication I could find for that being from a 1950's-1960's American indoc-booklet.

They were structured, and manoeuvred like any other modern military. They were very much comparable to the US Army of the time, and they did a lot more to defeat the Nazis than the Allies did, which speaks for itself.

i know this is completely random but my economy just became a powerhouse,lowkey proud and didn't expect it to happen

Nottinhaps wrote:Adding to this, we are also 14th place in all non-puppet storage User Created Regions! (Everybody "spawns" in Feeders and Sinkers, and you can make as many puppets as possible in puppet storages, so they have an unfair advantage) You can check the full ranking here

Not only that but can I get a round of applause for us being the third biggest communist nation.

Fevhader wrote:Not only that but can I get a round of applause for us being the third biggest communist nation.

We are actually the second largest left-wing region (Lasagna is a puppet storage region) behind only The Communist Bloc.

Rebel olversome

Nottinhaps wrote:Adding to this, we are also 14th place in all non-puppet storage User Created Regions! (Everybody "spawns" in Feeders and Sinkers, and you can make as many puppets as possible in puppet storages, so they have an unfair advantage) You can check the full ranking here

Wow really, that's actually great Nottinhaps!!!!

Post by Frostwulve suppressed by a moderator.

Caracasus wrote:Probably only fair to point out that the whole "meatgrinder eastern front" stuff that led to the idea of wave upon wave of poorly trained Soviet recruits was largely a Nazi myth designed to play on the whole Asiatic Hordes idea. It was later picked up and propagated by western historians for similar propaganda based reasons and has largely been debunked. While it's certainly the case that the Soviet army in the early stages of WW2 suffered terrible defeats, the Soviets pushed back and won through superior tactics, logistics, equipment and training - not by throwing wave after wave of poorly equipped soldiers at the enemy.

True. The soviets didn't commit any of that rush straight into mg fire and die type of strategy. Not surprisingly the myth also got some spark when Stalin decided to "purge" all of his capable officers. Fyi I was making a joke there.
By the way what do you think of countries teaching their own history? I've noticed quite a few russians and other eastern people think that the Soviet Union crushed Finland in the winter war even though this is most definetely not the case.

Only two days left to submit designs for the 4th Culture Comps! Get in quick:

The Culture Competitions is a regional event held in The Leftist Assembly with the goal of selecting new designs for the region. This event will be held from the 18th to the 30th of May.

The designs up to vote in this fourth instalment are the region's flag, coat of arms, anthem, and animal. Current designs will also be put up for vote, but previous (or very similar) designs will not be accepted.

You can submit your own designs by telegramming me on NationStates or via private message on Discord (Piwifull#8691).
Bare in mind that images sent via Discord can lose quality; the preferred way to submit them is via imgur.com or similar pages, if that is available to you, but if it's not, feel free to send them however you like.
If you submit a design, don't be shy, give a name to your masterpiece!


Accepted designs:

Starrise, by Llorens (current one)

Leftist Union, by Syndical Community

Red and Black Standard #1, by Morvan

Red and Black Standard #2, by Morvan

Rosy Red, by The Final Horseman

Stars and Sickles, by Grod Island

Rock, by AnPrimus (current one)

The Phoenix of the Left, by Morvan

LinkThe Internationale (Instrumental) (current one)

Linkgrandson - WAR, proposed by Kavagrad

LinkDarkMateria - The Picard Song, proposed by Dawtania

LinkMaredith Placencia - Varshavianka (The Warsawian), proposed by The Final Horseman

LinkSong of the United Front (Instrumental), proposed by Hecknamistan

LinkSolidarity Forever, proposed by Hecknamistan

LinkCarlos Puebla - Hasta Siempre, proposed by Argentigrad

Laika the Space Dog (current one)

The Phoenix, proposed by Morvan


You have between the 18th and 25th of May to submit your own designs, and voting will take place from the 25th to the 30th.

Good luck to all of you, and stay creative!
Prime Minister and Minister of Information Argentigrad

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United Vegan Communes wrote:What else is there to do on nationstates apart from issues?

To be miserable.

Llorens wrote:We are actually the second largest left-wing region (Lasagna is a puppet storage region) behind only The Communist Bloc.

Nice to know the world isn't filled with 'Rational skeptics'

Union of comrads wrote:
By the way, what do you think of countries teaching their own history? I've noticed quite a few Russians and other eastern people think that the Soviet Union crushed Finland in the winter war even though this is most definitely not the case.

The thing about the Winter War that a lot of people don't really seem to understand about it is; it wasn't a war of conquest, it was a war of buying time.

Finland had been getting way too close to Germany in the lead up to the second world war, and the Fins had an easy passage to Leningrad - possibly the single most important industrial city for the Soviet Union at that time - which could not be accepted. So it was a situation of defending Leningrad, and by extension, the Union before the war with Germany could begin. The Soviets won the war, not through crushing the enemy, but by achieving the primary goal; keeping the Fins from being able to launch a German-backed war into Russia's north-western border in conjunction with the possible German push on Russia's western border. Which would have been far too much for the Soviets to handle. Though in the west, we believe that the Soviets lost the war, but IMO that has more to do with our imperialist "if you don't conquer them you lost" combat philosophy, which wasn't the philosophy of non-imperialist countries of the time.

So to put the Winter War into different terms, it was like building a wall to keep flood waters at bay. If that wall was loss of life, and those flood waters were Fascists. (Also, I don't fully agree with the war itself, but I do understand the reasoning and from that, I can't fully object to the war)

I'm new here, hello Comrades!

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