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Vlawarkay wrote:

capitalism works

So does socialism. Capitalism has many undesirable effects and will always be flawed.

Vlawarkay wrote:

yeah, tenically every ideology works if done right

No, anarchism (large scale) and fascism never work.

We need a united front of the Left.

Fevhader wrote:

That's where your wrong. Capitalism hasn't succeeded ever! Left ideology may not be perfect but it has made farther progress in creating a perfect nation than capitalism ever has.

Actually, capitalism is a needed transition away from feudalism, but still, must be replaced.

Fevhader wrote:

Capitalism was better than feudalism that didn't mean it succeeded. There both horrible.

Both did their job, and are no longer needed.

Kalordolor wrote:

Could I receive Embassy Authority?

Did you become ambassador?

Help, my illegal market is bigger than my private market.

Soviet tankistan wrote:

The ‘Soviet’ March is patriotic? To whom? The game developers? It is an American corporate song that is not written for America or the Soviet Union. It’s no bad compared to most music, but is sloppy and it doesn’t resemble real Soviet patriotic music. When I think of something that inspired patriotism, I think about learning of WW2 or the Battle Hymn of the Republic. Even just the flag or military (like the Army’s theme). There is a lot of reasons to be patriotic, a video game is not one of them. I play a game with Soviet tanks because they are cool, not because using them makes me a better Soviet (especially when I am American of all things). The Command and Conquer games are ridiculously inaccurate and should only be played for fun. I would recommend learning more about the military of the actual Soviet Union, it is very interesting.
Americans and Europeans are far more likely to be libertarians and even third world countries have a lot of libertarian socialists compared to the overall libertarian-authoritarian trend. Here in America, it is more like 1 statist socialist to every 1,000 libertarian socialists, who are all very outnumbered. Libertarian socialism appeals short term, but authoritarian socialism promises more gain. Asian countries are different because their culture is often based on very nationalist and traditionalist ideas that are ingrained to the state, as opposed to the third world where dictators do whatever they want because nobody can stop them or protest.

You're extremely rude to people you don't agree with. This isn't conduct we want on the RMB, and if you keep it up we will have to take actions against you. If you don't agree with someone, respectfully disagree - don't attack or be rude. That's not how you be a comrade, that's how you get kicked out.

Patriotism is a personal opinion in this instance. Soviet March made ME feel patriotic towards ideology in the parts of the game where you, the player, crushes through the Berlin Wall. Where you, the player, invade America. The song was written to emulate Soviet marches while remaining its own independent thing. As well, you're arguing that in your personal opinion that you, an individual with their own interests, don't like the song. There's no reason to be rude about it.

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You should probably examine history on that statement, because the reasoning is found within that. Western nations favour libertarian ideals, because the west during the cold war were upheld by Capitalism. The Middle East, Asia, and Africa were being invaded by western powers - they understood that within their situation they couldn't possibly have a libertarian society while the imperialist war machine bombed their cities and killed their children. Westerners support libertarianism, because westerners understand their nation won't be invaded by the Americans. We can also look on the macro scale - such as with the women's liberation and the black liberation movements of the United States. Communities that were being raided by the cops, where people were being arrested or beat without provocation, tended to favour authoritarian socialist ideals. For instance, the Black Panther Party favoured Maoism, Leninism, and Marxism over Anarchist and Libertarian ideals, and the radical feminists favoured classical Marxism, and Leninism over those same Anarchist and Libertarian ideals. Further, the West's leftist activism started with Syndicalists and Wobblies, who didn't need authoritarian Marxist ideals to invent equality in the workplace - which is something that carries on with western leftist activism to the current time. There are other history notes, but they're not super important for this lil tidbit. The thing I'm trying to get across is though, nobody knows exactly how many of either pole exist, and there's no way to truly measure. So stop acting like you do, and like your word is that of absolute authority.

Fevhader wrote:

That's where your wrong. Capitalism hasn't succeeded ever! Left ideology may not be perfect but it has made farther progress in creating a perfect nation than capitalism ever has.

That's where you're wrong. Capitalism works perfectly well, and exactly as intended. It's a system that makes the rich richer by design, and the poor poorer as a result. And it's only an evolution of the same old system that's been around for centuries - just something that extends the power of the immortal rich class far past its natural lifetime.

Kalordolor wrote:

Could I receive Embassy Authority?

You may not, but if you feel we need more embassies, I am MoFA, and I'm the person you should come to if you want to make suggestions. You can inbox me regions you want me to investigate, if that's what you're interested in.

Kalordolor wrote:

Okay, could you please create a Embassy with Alliance for Science II?

telegram me a link please, this business doesn't really belong on the RMB. Thank you though.

Hecknamistan wrote:

You're extremely rude to people you don't agree with. This isn't conduct we want on the RMB, and if you keep it up we will have to take actions against you. If you don't agree with someone, respectfully disagree - don't attack or be rude. That's not how you be a comrade, that's how you get kicked out.

Patriotism is a personal opinion in this instance. Soviet March made ME feel patriotic towards ideology in the parts of the game where you, the player, crushes through the Berlin Wall. Where you, the player, invade America. The song was written to emulate Soviet marches while remaining its own independent thing. As well, you're arguing that in your personal opinion that you, an individual with their own interests, don't like the song. There's no reason to be rude about it.

next part;

You should probably examine history on that statement, because the reasoning is found within that. Western nations favour libertarian ideals, because the west during the cold war were upheld by Capitalism. The Middle East, Asia, and Africa were being invaded by western powers - they understood that within their situation they couldn't possibly have a libertarian society while the imperialist war machine bombed their cities and killed their children. Westerners support libertarianism, because westerners understand their nation won't be invaded by the Americans. We can also look on the macro scale - such as with the women's liberation and the black liberation movements of the United States. Communities that were being raided by the cops, where people were being arrested or beat without provocation, tended to favour authoritarian socialist ideals. For instance, the Black Panther Party favoured Maoism, Leninism, and Marxism over Anarchist and Libertarian ideals, and the radical feminists favoured classical Marxism, and Leninism over those same Anarchist and Libertarian ideals. Further, the West's leftist activism started with Syndicalists and Wobblies, who didn't need authoritarian Marxist ideals to invent equality in the workplace - which is something that carries on with western leftist activism to the current time. There are other history notes, but they're not super important for this lil tidbit. The thing I'm trying to get across is though, nobody knows exactly how many of either pole exist, and there's no way to truly measure. So stop acting like you do, and like your word is that of absolute authority.

That's where you're wrong. Capitalism works perfectly well, and exactly as intended. It's a system that makes the rich richer by design, and the poor poorer as a result. And it's only an evolution of the same old system that's been around for centuries - just something that extends the power of the immortal rich class far past its natural lifetime.

You may not, but if you feel we need more embassies, I am MoFA, and I'm the person you should come to if you want to make suggestions. You can inbox me regions you want me to investigate, if that's what you're interested in.

If political parties had voting are any indication, libertarians have many more votes than authoritarians. I don’t think authoritarian socialists have a party. And it is folly to say America is libertarian. They are authoritarian, just not totalitarian. People just believe they have full rights when they are being manipulated. Freedom of speech is an illusion.

I've always found political defenitions of libertarian and authoritarian stances interesting, especially in the context of mainstream politics.

Libertarians seem to like easing financial regulation, allowing employers to hire and fire at will and stripping back existing legal recourses to the most vulnerable.

It seems that libertarians want to create a thousand more tyrants in workplaces and homes all across the country.

Cedoria wrote:

Definitely true of right-wing libertarians. I object to referring to them as 'libertarians' at all to be honest. There is nothing libertarian about complete corporate tyranny.

So true, handing over control to unregulated, unelected national corporations is almost as authoritarian as authoritarianism is. The policy of left wing Libertarians is slightly different as they do believe in the protection of workers and cultural protection to those weakest in society but this depends on everyone being tolerant and accepting of one another which is not the case especially under the current capitalist system.