I’m going to explain this as carefully and respectfully as I can. As someone descended from Ukrainian Jews, that is difficult when faced with dismissiveness about the death of my family in the 30s and 40s.
The Holodomor is widely considered a genocide by the descendants who were impacted by it. I also consider it a genocide. There is plenty of debate over exactly what led to it and whether it was deliberately engineered or a result of neglect.
In any case, it shouldn’t have happened. It’s not something that should be admired, excused, or ignored. The victims and their families deserve human dignity- not dismissal.
I am a Marxist. I am a socialist. Because of this, I value human life. A single unnecessary death, a single unjust imprisonment is unacceptable to me.
Joseph Stalin was an important historical figure and played a major role in the foundation of a country. I understand that, but I don’t think he’s someone to be glorified or admired any more than the slave owning founders of my own country.
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Venezuela and the Nordic countries are both social democracies, hardly socialist. We do however give critical support to Venezuela and Maduro in their struggle against imperialism, same can't be said for the Nordic countries.
possibly the dumbest and most unprofessional looking resolution ive ever seen, they dont have any actual reason to condemn us other than "i dont agree with communism" and it really shows
its making an absolute joke of the security council
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I may have exaggerated the 22,000 and I already know about the black book of communism, I know his numbers are inflated, does that excuse his actions?
There are still millions dead under his rule whether you like it or not.
Stalin was a horrible man no matter what, a paranoid, insane, deranged man.
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Mmyes, just keep playing into that perception. The western powers commends your efforts in undermining revolutionaries. Because apparently Stalin is the autocrat and makes every decision there is, not considering the departments that allowed for the purges and what not to happen. Yes he did pay the weather a 100 bucks to starve Ukrainians.
The famines were already there prior the revolution. The kulaks did nothing wrong, the war did not take a toll on the country at all, the weather plays no role at all, inheriting a war torn country that is barely industrialized is an easy feat. Says so a simp for a bourgeois democracy, you probably praise social revolutionaries who shot Lenin as well don't ya?
Paranoid? Who wouldn't? For the first time in history, a gigantic bloc of land mass turned red. Even shocked the Porkys when they won the Russian Civil War despite the greater odds. Yes, advocate for social democracy. Those people who joined the White Army, those people who with the help of the freikorps, murdered Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebknecht, advocate for social democracy of Scandinavia who get rich off on multinational companies that exploit Third Worlds cheap labor and resources, advocate for senseless bourgeois demagoguery and continue feeding on propaganda that demonizes every socialist state propped up, demonize socialist states who tried to spread the emancipation of the workers with the same condemnation that the porkys harbor. This is truly the right way comrades!
Insane? Is that the best criticism you have? Even Lenin's health deteriorated in handling such a mess of a state. He was not sophisticated nor possess any superhuman trait. But he guided the country alongside counsels into a super powerhouse upon his death. It all became deranged after Khrushchev took over.
Deranged? In terms of what? Besides caricatures of Western depictions and leftists who bootlicks for western propaganda? Besides having yesmen with alleged malicious deeds. He managed with what he had and those purges although unwelcomed. Served well in the long run as to instill stability in the turmoil years of the USSR after Lenin's death. Hitler lost thanks to him and his officers conflicting. Nazis punched hard, but the Vanguard party packed a punch of a collective effort of Soviet will.
Mao, Tito, The Kims, Castro, and everyone else should be condemned in your American centric view. And alongside their supporters, you couldn't get even more sectarian than this.
Seriously, we’re going to just allow Holodomor denial?
Regional Message Board Regulation Act 2020
Section 14. Regional Communication Officers must suppress RMB posts that contain the following:
H. Denial of historical or ongoing serious crimes in the real world or serious allegations of such in unprofessional, unscholarly, chauvinistic, or inflammatory manners.
I don't deny on soviet mismanagement. I do deny that anyone who claims it was intentional on the Soviet part. Is outright slanders, and anyone else who deny the material conditions that caused it. What denial is there? The famine happened. Nothing more, nothing less.
You’re either misinformed or misrepresenting what happened. The government restricted freedom of movement which prevented people from being able to save their own lives.
You simultaneously blame the weather, mismanagement, or in the case of peasants (kulaks) imply that they deserved what they got. Everything except for the government that was responsible for their general welfare.
You’ll note that the law specifies “ unprofessional, unscholarly, chauvinistic, or inflammatory manners.” That sums up your attitude perfectly.
These people were somebody’s parents, somebody’s children... they were somebody.
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Please can we all take a chill pill?
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The Ultimate TCB Handbook: The All-Expansive Guide to Life in The Communist Bloc
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Welcome to The Communist Bloc!!
Welcome to The Communist Bloc! You've probably come here either attracted by one of our recruitment telegrams, our leftist debates, or just the large population count under the socialist tag. No matter the reason, you are now home and you have now found your place! So what to do? I'm sure there are about a billion things rushing through your head right now, and no idea where to start in this massive place. So let's do a quick overview of the region first. The Communist Bloc (aka TCB or The Bloc) is a Pan-Left-wing region comprised of real-life socialists, communists, and anarchists. We welcome all people regardless of sexuality, identity, ethnic background, or religious creed.
The Bloc is a highly democratic region where anyone has every opportunity to join the community, bring their fresh new ideas, and contribute. We have roleplay, competitive elections, fun community activities, and even the ability for everyone to participate in making the law of the region through our directly democratic institutions. There's something for everyone here in TCB.
So what should you do now that you've joined? Well, there's alot that's available:
Apply for Citizenship: Citizenship is your ultimate ticket here in The Bloc. Citizenship on the TCB forums allows you to vote in our regions directly democratic legislature, run for office, gain full access to the discord, and become a full-fledged member of the community. Anyone who wants to do more than answer issues should consider doing this.
Our Regional Forum:
Our regional forum is where most of the political scene of the region takes place. It’s very important for anyone who’s interested in participating in our region's government to join the forums. Making an account is very easy and simple. Should there be any problems, Comrade Kethania should be contacted.
Our Regional Discord: Our regional discord is where most of our casual interaction takes place. Much of the active portion of the region’s community spend most of their time here than on the RMB debating. It's highly recommended that comrades join if they want to become active.
Our Government: The Bloc’s Government runs on the principles of socialism, equality, collective leadership, direct democracy, and freedom. It has a unique four-branch system. With an executive handling governmental affairs (such as activities, immigration, interaction with other regions), a democratic legislature that makes laws for the region, an elected Judicial Branch to interpret the constitution and the law, and an Administrative Branch which moderates the discord and the forums and acts in a policing capacity. The most important principle, however, is that the World Assembly Delegate is not the leader here. The people, in fact, influence the appointment the WAD through the popular will.
Why TCB?: Why TCB? Why join the Bloc and stay for your NS career? Well it’s quite simple, we're a tight-knit family that’s been together for half a decade now and we don’t plan on stopping :)
To get involved, it’s important that you have citizenship. Without it, you cannot any of the activities below. If you have not already, please refer to the links above for newcomers to get started. For newcomers or older members who want to become members of our community, it is highly recommended to begin by gaining citizenship on the forums, and then joining the discord and gaining full access using said citizenship. Following that, the best thing to do is to volunteer for a ministry and then make yourself known in the community by being active and interacting with people (don't be shy, we don't bite).
Volunteering for the Civil Service: The first thing that every citizen should try and do is apply for a ministry. The regions ministries are the main bodies that carry out the governmental work in the region. Depending on who you are, you can become a diplomat, a reporter for the news, a activities organizer, a roleplay manger, or assist on the legal team! You can volunteer here.
Getting Involved in the Legislature: citizens in the bloc have the luxury of being exposed to a highly accessible and transparent legislative process. Everything is performed within sight of the citizens, and any citizen can propose and vote on bills.
Getting Involved in the a Government Office: getting elected or becoming a minister are probably the two biggest ways to make an impact in the region. The best part is, TCB has plenty of such positions for people to occupy! Ranging from appointed bodies to elected chairpeople, the region has different roles to fill, each with their own duties and responsibilities and competitive processes of attaining them.
The Constitution: Anyone who wishes to become more active ought to eventually read the Constitution. Yes, I understand that it is long, personally, it took me a few tries to fully finish it. But it's wise to have knowledge of the highest law of the land.
Join the Red Fleet: What now? Do we have a military? To many, this may seem confusing, but it is perfectly normal for NS. Our region lets The Red Fleet (TRF), the military of the Solidarity Pact of the NSLeft, defend its military interests. It actively assists in raiding right-wing regions, fascist regions, and other reactionary elements in the game. Their goal is to eradicate them completely and remove the ability of fascists to use this game as a real-life recruitment space for their toxic creed. Enlist here today!
Below are other links pertaining to the region and its interactions with other regions. It is recommended for people to look at these if they really want to get involved.
The RMB Rules: This is a must-read for any resident. The RMB Rules should be followed by everyone at all times. This ensures that the region's RMB is safe and reflective of our values.
Familiarize Yourself With Regional Law: As a Socialist Republic, The Communist Bloc is very dedicated to a democratic system with order and procedure to carry out government duties and policies more effectively. As a new member, feel free to familiarize yourself with a few basic documents.
Anti-Fascism and Why We Fight: Above all, TCB is a left-wing region eternally committed to fighting fascism. Right-wing thought, especially fascism, is not tolerated within this region. We do not believe that freedom of speech extends to those who's sole purpose is built on racism, death, and dictatorship. TCB as an NSLeft member participates in the interregional military alliance of Antifa, and helps them to destroy the influence of fascists in the game.
The NSLeft: The Solidarity Pact of the NationStates Left, or the NSLeft, is the largest and most influential leftist alliance in the game. TCB is a member of this important alliance. Formed of only leftist regions comprised of real-life leftists, NSLeft seeks to further interregional leftist solidarity and create a united front against right-wing reactionaries.
Someone is misbehaving on the RMB! What do I do?:
Please click this Big Report Button Thingie to send a telegram to our RMB moderators. You should include links to posts/pages containing improper material. Please also report to game moderators if applicable.
Why should I become a citizen?
Many reasons. Citizenship is like a switch from "just hanging around" to "being a full-fledged part of the region". Citizenship allows one to vote in elections, run for positions in government, participate in the discussion on forums (which is where the most of it happens), and all that good stuff. If you are not yet a citizen - you're missing out.
You may be suspicious of this whole bureaucracy, and wondering why can't we just allow the aforementioned freedoms to everyone. Well, there are good reasons. This world is dark and full of very very bad people doing all sorts of illegal and immoral activities. Citizenship allows us to prevent them from running for offices, spying on our region, etc. Unless you are one of those very very bad people, you have nothing to worry about.
If you have any more questions, please, feel free to telegram me, Ubertas, and I'll answer the best I can.
Who is actually in power in The Communist Bloc?
The Head of State is the First Minister(FM), who is elected by the citizenry in the First Round of Ministerial Elections.
The Head of Government is collectively the Council of Ministers(CoM), which is elected by the citizenry.
The Head of Legislature is the Speaker of the Legislative Committee, who is internally selected by the Committee, which itself is elected by the citizenry.
The Head of Military is the Minister of Defense(MoD), who is elected by the citizenry in the second round of Ministerial Elections.
The Head of Judiciary is the Chief Justice of the People's Tribunal, who is internally selected by the Judiciary, itself elected by the people.
The Head of Administration is the Head Administrator, internally selected by the Administrative Council, which also selects its own new members.
The Head of On-Site Administration is the World Assembly Delegate(WAD), who is appointed by the First Minister with the consent and approval of the Council of Ministers.
To see who currently occupies these roles and more, please view this dispatch..
All elections are conducted on The Communist Bloc forums.
Why is my application not being processed?
Sadly enough, processing applications take time and effort. It also gets pretty tedious after a while. A couple of days is a reasonable enough expectation of the processing time. We haven't forgotten about you, so just exercise patience.
Oh, and if after a week your application is not yet processed, then we probably have forgotten about you, so feel free to complain to Ubertas or another government official displayed in the regional page we will look at what can be done. If something is unclear, please, feel free to telegram Ubertas(also go by Nate or Nathaniel Kuznetsov-Penrose), or another government official.
How to apply for citizenship
Do you want to get involved in TCB? Do you want to do more than just answer issues all day? Do you want to have fun? If that’s the case, you probably want to apply for citizenship.
Requirements to be eligible for citizenship:
1. You must have a nation residing in The Communist Bloc
2. You must have a World Assembly nation on Nationstates (not necessarily in this region)
To apply for citizenship, follow these steps:
Step 1: Click here for our forums.
Step 2: Click the down arrow next to “Login”, as shown below.
Step 3: Click “register”, as shown below.
Step 4: Fill out the required information, and then click "register".
Step 5: Copy the application template provided here.
Step 7: Title the topic “Citizenship Application: [INSERT USERNAME HERE]” and paste the application template on the topic.
Step 8: Fill out the application. Make sure to be honest!
Step 9: Click "Post Topic".
Step 10: Wait for your application to be processed.
Once a citizen, you can partake in all the activities our region has to offer, including:
• Regional politics
• The nation roleplay
• The regional military
• Games and contests created by the Ministry of Culture
• And much more!
As always, if you have any questions regarding citizenship or the registration/application process, please do feel free to contact me, Eriadni, via telegram or discord.
This dispatch is adapted from an older version created by Egaleca: page=dispatch/id=1067444/
We recommend you check out the rest of the pinned dispatches in the region for much more interesting details about the Bloc, its laws, the programs we are running, our allies in NSLeft and much more!