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Post by North columbian government suppressed by Estado Novo Portugues.
anyway ENP, USA/PPC here. Mind if I just grab basically all parts of the US besides what's already taken?
I have a rough idea behind integrating the weird untaken part of the Western USA, but I'll need a rundown of Spain's history since...1776 at least.
Go for it.
Much of it's still heavily WIP, but here's what I have so far.
Late 1700s to early 1800s: Because Charles II of Spain adopted an heir in this timeline, this caused a "butterfly effect", changing everything after 1700 (Charles II's death). Since there wasn't a succession crisis, Spain was able to beef up its army following the American and French revolutions, due to concerns of a revolution happening in its own backyard. Thus, it was never invaded and conquered by Napoleon (a weak army was the reason RL Spain got f---ed up by the French). And without the French occupation to weaken Spain's power, it never lost its grip on Latin America and the rest of its colonies. In addition, it was also spared from the poverty and famine that plagued the RL Spain.
Late 1800s to early 1900s: With the coming of the industrial revolution and its technological advances, like the steam engine, Spain was able to progress rapidly. In the 1890s, it established the LEA (Línea Española Americana, Spanish-American Line), the national passenger shipping line, to connect its colonies by sea. By the 1910s, the LEA was regularly operating passenger routes within the entire Empire. With the outbreak of World War I, Spain stayed neutral, and avoided the fate of the other European powers (Britain, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire) as a result. So while the war spelled downfall for the rest of the empires, Spain remained strong as ever. When World War II came, Spain did the same thing, staying neutral and continuing to trade with both sides. So after the war, when much of Europe was rebuilding from the ruins, Spain emerged completely unscathed.
Late 1900s: Spain remained officially neutral during the Cold War, but ideologically it favored the West, as the communists were considered a greater threat to the monarchy. In addition, Spain saw the need for nuclear weapons of its own, in response to the American, British, Chinese, French and Soviet nuclear programs, so it developed nuclear missiles and submarines. Since Cuba and Florida never left Spain in this timeline, the Cuban missile crisis never happened. Neither did the Latin American military dictatorships. In 1970, Portugal (under the new government of Afonso Salazar) signed a defense treaty with Spain, and allowed the Imperial Spanish Armada to establish a base in the Azores. In the 1980s, Spain built nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and icebreakers, and set up a naval base in Antarctica.
2000s: The current Emperor of Spain, Diosdado II, was coronated in 2006 after the death of his father, Diosdado I. And in 2020, the coronavirus happened. In this timeline though, Spain has more than 300 000 deaths (about 4x the count for RL Spain), since the Emperor is a Covidiot who insists on keeping everything open despite the number of cases. Sort of like Trump or Bolsonaro, or worse—at least they gave local governments the ability to impose lockdowns, while Diosdado II threatened to jail any mayor who did that (the Spanish Empire is an absolute monarchy, so the Emperor can punish anybody for any reason). Similar thing happened in 
Alzatia (also an absolute monarchy): huge outbreak of cases, mayor of Strassburg ordered curfew, Princess disagreed, sent mayor into exile and burned down his house. And the same would probably happen in the Holy Catholic State and 
Yerbanistan, should the virus spread to either nation.
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Hispania Major Alright, so here's what I think.
> That northern bit of North America(Washington, Oregon, etc), as well as Alaska, is under an American-aligned nation known as the Republic of Cascadia. Strong tradition political independence and whatnot develops that is extreme even by US standards. Think Texas, if Texas was in Alaska or the Pacific Northwest.
> The Republic of Cascadia is formed in the early 19th century after an American-backed revolt by locals against the encroaching British and Spanish. Despite it's small size, the geography of the country proves difficult for the Spaniards or English to deal with, and eventually the Republic earns it's independence, although it retains close military and political ties with the US.
> Cascadia manages to sit in splendid isolation until WW1, during which it nabs Alaska to little resistance during the Russian Civil War and annexes it, soon after beginning to exploit the mineral wealth within it. The Cascadian military is also an adopter of aircraft, many of which eventually pass into private hands. Groups of White Russians eventually take refuge in Cascadia and begin making raids across the Bering Strait after the end of the Russian Civil War, beginning a tradition of Alaskan/Cascadian PMCs that continues into the modern day.
> During WW2 Cascadia gets stuck in the War in the Pacific and gets pummeled badly for it, heavily relying on Russian and American support and later intervention to save off the IJN. Tide is later turned, although at far greater cost and with much seething postwar against both Japan(for the whole WW2 thing) and Spain(for basically sitting on the sidelines). Cascadian public opinon, already relatively pro-American, begins to swing hard to America.
> During the Cold War Cascadia's White Russian-founded merc groups skyrocket in relevance and eventually become a noticable part of the economy and a powerful political force, with some going as far as to establish small-but-capable air forces with American equipment. America stations considerable troops in Cascadia and helps spur the growth of the Cascadian shipbuilding industry.
> Although the end of the Cold War hit Cascadia hard, both it and it's merc groups have managed to survive, and the Cold-War alliance with America has caused relations with the two countries to skyrocket. Spain, on the other hand, remains somewhat left in the cold; Cascadians view it's absolute monarchy as capricious and unreliable and seethe at it for staying neutral during WW2 and apparently not caring if the Japanese ate them or not.
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As for America proper;
> Basically everything's the same except for constant prodding at Spain, the War in the Pacific was actually a close-fought contest instead of just one giant curbstomp, Manifest Destiny never ends and still remains a very real American ambition, and by 2000 it's starting to prod Spain again; think Russia prior to the conflict in Ukraine.
...I think I've watched too many playthroughs of Project Wingman.
Approved. One question, though.
You mentioned that Cascadia was attacked by Japan in WW2. When that happened, was it already on the Allied side, or was it still neutral at the time? Because this difference would've greatly determined the Spanish reaction. If it's the former case, Spain would've stood back and done nothing, as it didn't want to risk a war with all the Axis powers (Germany was ready to back up Japan no matter what, like they did after Pearl Harbor), and the Soviets were seen as the greater threat. But if it's the latter case, Spain, although remaining officially neutral, would've sold weapons and supplies to the Cascadians, since it would've been in both nations' interests to counter Japan's unprovoked aggression (and for Spain, more wealth).
Except in this case, the two powers are more or less equally matched, so America won't be able to push Spain around, the way Russia does with Ukraine. As the Emperor once said, "The arrogant eagle can screech all it wants, but it will never slay the mighty and proud lion of Iberia."
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Allies.
I meant in the general sense of backing secessionists and trying to diplomatically isolate Spain. Primary way to go about this would be Britain, who presumably do not enjoy the thought of Spain showing up the Royal Navy, much like how in OTL Britain shat itself when Germany started building up it's navy.
In that case, Spain wouldn't have touched them with a ten-foot pole, as they had no reason to get involved in a war that wasn't theirs. But let's say there were a few hundred Spanish volunteers who signed up to fight for the Cascadians (but in the end, they too got steamrolled by the Japanese), if you agree.
Well, America's influence in this timeline is only that of RL Germany, France or similar. And considering that not even the RL America can isolate Russia or China despite its best efforts, it's unlikely that a nerf'd version would be able to take on a Spain that's equivalent to RL America in hard and soft power. In addition, separatists in the Spanish Empire are treated without mercy, just like terrorists and pirates. So a US-backed rebellion would most likely end up like another Sinkiang, not an Arab Spring or Euromaidan like they'd hope. Also keep in mind, although you're free to run your own nations however you like, this is still my timeline, and my vision for America is for it to peacefully co-exist with Spain, not wanting to bring it down at every turn. Nothing personal, but war and international incidents aren't my style of RP.
To be fair though, the Royal Navy today is just a shadow of its former self, and isn't even in the top 10 by size. Not only are the British dwarfed by Spain, but also by their WW2 enemies Italy and Japan, their Cold War enemies Russia, China and North Korea, as well as nations like Colombia, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Full list: www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.php
In addition, the Spanish Empire has generally shown no military interest beyond its own colonies over the decades (with a few exceptions, like sending a boatload of Imperial Spanish Marines to f--- up Somali pirates), unlike some more belligerent naval powers such as China. So while Spain's the biggest fish in the ocean, it's far from being the baddest.
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Generally, my idea for relations with everyone in the Americas, Europe and among the major Asian Powers would be friendly. The Jungferninseln are neither large nor powerful, so the nation doesn't come into play all that often. What it is, however, is a major tourist hotspot, not to the extend of Mallorca, but a lot of people make vacations there, maybe even have a vacation home.
It is also a good place for diplomatic summits. ; )
I also imagine the Jungferninseln to have a defensive alliance with someone, either with Spain or with, indeed, you.
As for RP-plans, once I finished moving, I was planning on developing the country a bit further and then maybe setting up a nice social RP.
I've got that Imperial Yacht christening planned for the summer (June or July). This will give me time to pre-write the OP.
Although the Spanish Empire has little reason to defend a small island nation, it has lots of reasons to defend its territory Puerto Rico, which the Jungferninseln are right next to. If the JFI were to be invaded, then Spain would be under threat too, which the Emperor would never allow to happen. So by being Spain's next-door neighbor, the JFI can piggyback on the free protection given to Puerto Rico, even if no alliance exists.
Sounds like a plan to me! : D
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Alright, so the main Foreign Policy things I'll be doing is:
> Attempting to gain(or maintain) Panama Canal Usage rights
> Attempting to maintain a doomstack of troops in the Middle East so I can do the funny if I need to.
> Attempting to spank China.
> (For Cascadia) Stirring the pot in random African countries so the mercs get hired out for air support.
JFI is probably not exactly America's biggest priority and the extent of bilateral relations would be a security treaty and their air force/navy(if it even exists) being invited to Red Flag/RIMPAC on a constant basis where they get treated to a good deal of hospitality and copious amounts of alcohol.
not spain though, spain stinky, no alcohol for spain :P
That aside, Cascadia might take an interest in JFI and a few corps might set up branch offices and offshore accounts there.
1) Spain already allows foreign ships to transit the Panama Canal, except for aircraft carriers heavier than 15,000 tons (similar to the RL Montreux Convention, which prohibits large aircraft carriers from the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits in Turkey).
2) No objections. But no trying to deny Spain's access to Middle Eastern oil.
3) No objections. In this timeline, Spain and Portugal don't recognize the PRC's legitimacy, and hate it as much as America does.
4) No objections. Just stay clear of Equatorial Guinea, the northern tip of Morocco, and the Western Sahara (Spanish territory), and Angola, Cape Verde, Mozambique, Portuguese Guinea, and São Tomé and Príncipe (Portuguese territory).
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First we join the Spanish Imperial Family to celebrate the christening of their new yacht (this RP will hopefully go live in mid-June, as originally planned).
Then we could do a diplomatic summit between your leaders, one or more of SEA's leaders, and one or more of my leaders:
Portugal: Civil Director Afonso Salazar
Spain: Emperor Diosdado II
Alzatia: Princess Veroniek
Yerbanistan: Chancellor Maxim Yachingov
Jolantia: Queen Marianna I
Things to be discussed could include trade, defense, travel, pandemic aid, etc.
But just a warning - all of the above people can be quite eccentric and unconventional. Especially the Chancellor of Yerbanistan: a guy who has a personal flying palace (converted from a retired Air France A380), owns 6000 horses, and denies that the coronavirus exists.
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Aight, sure. I might start a Red Flag Exercise concurrently, if you don't mind. Unusually, Spain will be invited, although participation will be capped at a single squadron of aircraft.
The Selkie, you want your JFI folk to swing around for Red Flag?
Anyway, leaders.
Cascadia: Governor William Korner; Secretary of Foreign Affairs Patrick Saunders
America: President Vincent Natwick; Secretary of State Xiaoshen Li.
oh also btw could you reupload the map
I might ask OOC for a few territories extra, primarily because the weird bordergore of me owning the east and west coast but not anything inbetween hurts my brain
(also i kinda like the midwest, objectively it's the best part of the US)
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Patrol planes count, I think.
Alternatively I could make it a Carribean USN exercise and thus more easily justify Spain showing up too.
In appreciation for opening our embassy, breakfast is on us:
**Sets up a table of muffins, butter, jam, pancakes, maple syrup, bacon, ham, scrambled eggs, strawberries, coffee, tea, hot chocolate, and Hershey's kisses**
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