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Rejectionville wrote:My personal, individual interpretation is that Christianity is a faith of compassion, empathy and inclusion that promotes cooperation and a celebration of the life we have been given.

I hope that I'm not too off the mark for you.
Thank you. They were very pretty but I have graduated to books without pictures.

That's highly reductionist. You have only said what Christianity does, not what it is. There is a difference between function and essence.

Rejectionville wrote:My personal, individual interpretation is that Christianity is a faith of compassion, empathy and inclusion that promotes cooperation and a celebration of the life we have been given.

I hope that I'm not too off the mark for you.

That's a very vague, feel-good statement. Care to elaborate on exactly what you mean by that?

Rejectionville wrote:Thank you. They were very pretty but I have graduated to books without pictures.

But you have not, apparently, graduated to evaluating arguments based on their merit, as opposed to evaluating them based on the perceived quality of the medium in which they were presented.

Panthera corpus nix, Horatius Cocles, Fauxia, and Rosa-Gallica

Phydios wrote:That's a very vague, feel-good statement. Care to elaborate on exactly what you mean by that?

But you have not, apparently, graduated to evaluating arguments based on their merit, as opposed to evaluating them based on the perceived quality of the medium in which they were presented.

That’s very pithy, Phydios.

Panthera corpus nix, Horatius Cocles, and Fauxia

Rejectionville

The Gallant Old Republic wrote: There is a difference between function and essence.

Not in this case, I don't think so.

Phydios wrote:Care to elaborate on exactly what you mean by that?

Nope. For me my faith is a very personal, private comfort between myself and my Savior

Panthera corpus nix

Rejectionville wrote:Not in this case, I don't think so.
Nope. For me my faith is a very personal, private comfort between myself and my Savior

So what do I put you down as on the cheatsheet?

Panthera corpus nix wrote:So what do I put you down as on the cheatsheet?

Perhaps an “I’m my own pope”-ian. Based on Rejectionville’s exclusion of other people from their spiritual life. This is the height of prelest.

The roman catholic federation and Fauxia

Coxinhas homeland

before accusing the other Christian denominations of being "false," remember that Christianism itself is a Jewish sect (as well as Islam). because Paul needed evangelize the "Gentiles."

The unified federation of north america wrote:Greetings, after a prolonged search, the nation of the NAF has finally found a reasonable region with values that .. come the closest to aligning with our own.

Welcome to Right to Life!

Coxinhas homeland wrote:before accusing the other Christian denominations of being "false," remember that Christianism itself is a Jewish sect (as well as Islam). because Paul needed evangelize the "Gentiles."

The split between Christians and Jews happened in the first century. See, for example, the Gospel of John:

On the evening of that first day of the week, when the doors were locked, where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, "Peace be with you." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. (20:19–20)

The Gospel of John, the last canonical gospel that was written, repeatedly draws lines between "the disciples," who are followers of Jesus, and "the Jews," who do not follow him.

Horatius Cocles, Phydios, The Rouge Christmas State, Imperii Ecclesia, and 2 othersSlavic Lechia, and The unified federation of north america

Culture of Life wrote:Welcome to Right to Life!

The split between Christians and Jews happened in the first century. See, for example, the Gospel of John:

On the evening of that first day of the week, when the doors were locked, where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, "Peace be with you." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. (20:19–20)

The Gospel of John, the last canonical gospel that was written, repeatedly draws lines between "the disciples," who are followers of Jesus, and "the Jews," who do not follow him.

Still we can't dany that christianity is a jewish sect that Just got very BIG. Just like buddhism is a sect of hinduizm that Just got very BIG.

Slavic Lechia wrote:Still we can't dany that christianity is a jewish sect that Just got very BIG. Just like buddhism is a sect of hinduizm that Just got very BIG.

What does that even mean? The path was Judaism, but then was to follow Jesus. Some did, some didn't. No one is denying Christians branches from Judaism.

Rejectionville wrote:Not in this case, I don't think so.
Nope. For me my faith is a very personal, private comfort between myself and my Savior

Consider if I described my religion thusly: the Catholic faith is one of unity, solidarity, sacramental grace, and the redemption of humanity. This statement is true, but it only says what "sort" of faith the catholic faith is and what it does not what it is. It is tantamount to saying 'GOR is a person of kindness and silence who promotes traditional conservatism and marmots.' This statement may tell you something about the catholic faith/me, but it does not tell you what it/I is/am, only some vague characteristics of it/me. Indeed, these descriptions are highly misleading if you truly want to know either of these things.

Just to up the ante: consider if we described Christ the way you describe Christianity. Jesus is a person of noble character, great knowledge, and miraculous powers who promotes the Kingdom of Heaven and the moral life. Obviously this is true, and yet it obscures more than it reveals. We could equally say this statement of many different saints or even Billy Graham (minus the miraculous powers). No, Jesus is "true God and true man, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father," the Logos through whom all things were made and the Lamb of God, the redemption for the sins of mankind who was born of the Virgin Mary, the Bridegroom for His Church on earth, the Alpha and the Omega, the I AM.

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Slavic Lechia wrote:Still we can't dany that christianity is a jewish sect that Just got very BIG. Just like buddhism is a sect of hinduizm that Just got very BIG.

Modern Rabbinic Talmudism has little to nothing to do with actual Christianity.

The roman catholic federation wrote:Modern Rabbinic Talmudism has little to nothing to do with actual Christianity.

or actual Judaism

The roman catholic federation

Slavic Lechia wrote:or actual Judaism

Rabbinic Talmudism has become Judaism. Anybody who calls themselves Jewish in a religious sense believes in the Talmud.

From a secular humanist point of view, I'd suggest (as an individual and not as part of any official humanist viewpoint) that of course Islam and Christianity are massively different, as Muslims don't identify as Christians and vice versa.

From the secular point of view, the right to self-determination of identity is an important moral goal. So people should be allowed to categorise themselves as belonging to the faith or faiths they say they do, and nobody outside of those groups has a right to tell them what that means.

Panthera corpus nix

Soldiersend Archive wrote:From a secular humanist point of view, I'd suggest (as an individual and not as part of any official humanist viewpoint) that of course Islam and Christianity are massively different, as Muslims don't identify as Christians and vice versa.

From the secular point of view, the right to self-determination of identity is an important moral goal. So people should be allowed to categorise themselves as belonging to the faith or faiths they say they do, and nobody outside of those groups has a right to tell them what that means.

I agree to an extent, but I also disagree. The Catholic church (of which I'm not a member) is an organization, with a hierarchy and rules. If I claimed to be Catholic, but spit on priests whenever I saw them, sacrificed goats on a pentagram altar at midnight, prayed to the Norse Gods, and celebrated ancient Roman religious festivals, it would be a gross insult to the organization. Because most denominations of Christianity, at least, have some sort of formal definition, it would be rather disrespectful to claim to belong to that group if you don't conform to its definition.

Any thoughts on the previous Irish President calling Church teaching on homosexually "evil"?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45089672

Phydios wrote:Pretty sure that Cocles, CoL, UM, and Eire are all Catholic. You can add them. Can't think of any others off the top of my head. Might want to keep the list alphabetized too.

Panthera corpus nix wrote:My plan is to only put them on once they've spoken for themselves, just to make sure that I'm putting on the names that they want.
So what should I put you down as?

Phydios is correct. :)

Culture of Life, Panthera corpus nix, and Phydios

Rosa-Gallica wrote:I am Orthodox, and as such, I see the current Roman Pope as the successor to all popes before him, regardless of any errant dogmatic inventions in the past.

Ever wonder why the Orthodox don’t simply install a new Orthodox Pope in Rome and continue on as if the Roman Catholic Church doesn’t exist? That’s why; Pope Francis is still the heir to the ancient apostolic succession. Some of my Orthodox brothers and sisters may disagree with me, but I believe that the Sacraments of the Roman Church are grace-filled in the eyes of Christ.

May Christ-God grant Pope Francis many years, and may the Orthodox and the Latins unite in faith as before.

Amen. On a personal note, I have been reading the Philokalia of late, and the depth and beauty of the writings speaks more than I can say. To have this compilation of the ancient writings in one place is an immense grace.

The roman catholic federation wrote:Rabbinic Talmudism has become Judaism. Anybody who calls themselves Jewish in a religious sense believes in the Talmud.

Talmudism is not actual Judaism.

The roman catholic federation

Slavic Lechia wrote:Talmudism is not actual Judaism.

It's what Judaism has become though. All modern religious Jews, from Reformed to Orthodox, confess at that the Talmud has at least some importance.
The Judaism of Christ's time was succeeded by The Church of Christ, so I don't really know what you're talking about here.

The roman catholic federation wrote:It's what Judaism has become though. All modern religious Jews, from Reformed to Orthodox, confess at that the Talmud has at least some importance.
The Judaism of Christ's time was succeeded by The Church of Christ, so I don't really know what you're talking about here.

You Talking on this topic is like a musli Talking on the topic of christianity. Dont assume that You know my ancestry better than me. Than You.

Slavic Lechia wrote:You Talking on this topic is like a musli Talking on the topic of christianity. Dont assume that You know my ancestry better than me. Than You.

But you're an ethnic Jew, not a member of the Jewish religion . . .

Panthera corpus nix, Phydios, The roman catholic federation, Imperii Ecclesia, and 1 otherRosa-Gallica

Post by Slavic Lechia suppressed by New Dolgaria.

Culture of Life wrote:But you're an ethnic Jew, not a member of the Jewish religion . . .

So? Arab would know a lot about islam wouldnt he?

Slavic Lechia wrote:So? Arab would know a lot about islam wouldnt he?

Not if they never lived around Islam. Ethnicity and religion are not the same thing, Lechia, not even in the Middle East.

Culture of Life, New Dolgaria, Panthera corpus nix, Horatius Cocles, and 4 othersThe Rouge Christmas State, The roman catholic federation, Imperii Ecclesia, and Rosa-Gallica

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