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nerds are the best :3

Khalite, Luna State, Federation of the Resentine Kingdom, Benjabobaria, and 5 othersAnabelle i, Kendarith, Lukatonia, Cul-Ed-Sac, and A flying koala

A flying koala

Aynia with winged eye liner wrote:nerds are the best :3

What's your favorite flavor?

A flying koala wrote:What's your favorite flavor?

PURPLE FOR LIFE!

Valerievna and A flying koala

A flying koala wrote:What's your favorite flavor?

Piiiink

A flying koala wrote:What's your favorite flavor?

Lukatonia wrote:PURPLE FOR LIFE!

Ghostfox wrote:Piiiink

For a second I thought you guys were all talking about your favorite flavors being actual colors, and I was like "these absolute lunatics, really???" until I saw--

Aynia with winged eye liner wrote:nerds are the best :3

Remembered there's a candy called nerds, lol

Luna State, Imperium of Josh, Valerievna, Lukatonia, and 1 otherA flying koala

Khalite wrote:For a second I thought you guys were all talking about your favorite flavors being actual colors, and I was like "these absolute lunatics, really???" until I saw--

Remembered there's a candy called nerds, lol

Nah it's just americans being weird :P

Ghostfox, Lukatonia, and A flying koala

Beats up the RMB with hugs

Luna State, Ghostfox, Valerievna, and A flying koala

1 minute ago: Following new legislation in Khalite, international trade can be a pain to deal with.
3 hours ago: Following new legislation in Khalite, the police think a properly conducted criminal investigation is a real pain.
11 hours ago: Following new legislation in Khalite, to 'cut off family ties' is no longer just a phrase.
15 hours ago: Following new legislation in Khalite, giggling teens are asked to put their mouths on rubber dolls.

Valerievna and A flying koala

Midnight sparkle

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How are you all doing? Cuz I'm feeling Powerful.

Luna State, Imperium of Josh, Ghostfox, Valerievna, and 4 othersLukatonia, Le slavador, Xu xix, and A flying koala

Steamwork goes Ubisoft DRM bye bye

Khalite and A flying koala

Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

Luna State, Imperium of Josh, Valerievna, and A flying koala

Mitochondria wrote:How are you all doing? Cuz I'm feeling Powerful.

Yup. You really are Mightochondria!

Ayayayayayyyyy!!

Luna State, Imperium of Josh, Valerievna, and A flying koala

Johnsongrad two electric boogaloo

Arnavaz wrote:Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

Human Nature is, at its core, cooperative. Society can mold and warp this, however, resulting in a variety of results.

Luna State, Valerievna, and A flying koala

Arnavaz wrote:Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

Constant. I would say that human nature could be changed by a culture or society, however people will still have a drive to do it and be tempted to do so.

Edit: Human nature in of itself is constant, but the culture changes parts of it for better or for worse.

Luna State, Valerievna, and A flying koala

Arnavaz wrote:Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

Good morning!

Human nature is just that: natural. We've bent nature to our will before, but this nature is something that is hard-wired. Culture and society do not have anything to do with basic human emotions/actions. Human nature exists mainly for our survival as a species. Not only does it stay the same, but if it didn't, we would be in a whole lot of trouble.

Luna State, Valerievna, and A flying koala

Alrengard wrote:snip

But but but
What about the fact that our behavior is an attribute imbued on us by the culture and society that we are a part of, and as such values, morals, political ideas, and the way we feel as individual people are a symbol of that society?

I don't explain it as well as I know others could, but structuralism is a ting.

Luna State, Imperium of Josh, Valerievna, and A flying koala

Arnavaz wrote:

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

Ah... human nature, always a fun concept. As someone who likes to discuss various utopias (and did a uni course in them :P) I've actually given this a fair bit of thought - even considered writing an essay on it before I decided to have some fun discussing how one needs to be authoritarian in a utopia to keep it from going off the rails. But, those things are definitely connected anyways.

Everything humans do, say, believe etc. is a product of our environment - be it "natural" environment or social environment. Social constructivism is a fascinating rabbit hole to dive into, but I'm gonna give you the basic first google result spiel first then elaborate a tad. Maybe I'll even bring in an amusing passage from a book I have. So uh;

"Social constructivism is a sociological theory of knowledge according to which human development is socially situated and knowledge is constructed through interaction with others." So says the wiki :P

What this ultimately means is that nothing we think has any concrete meaning in society holds that meaning without a context for that meaning to exist within. Change the context, or even change an individual's perception of society, and the meanings change too. Ultimately you get a situation where you realise that "strawberry" doesn't actually mean anything at all and you're going to have a really hard time describing what one is to someone (or probably something - like a computer) who doesn't know what "fruit," "colour," "smell," "taste," or "shapes" are. Everything requires some level of experienced context to understand everything else. Here's another quote - this is from The Construction of Social Reality;

"To give you a feel for the complexity of the problem, I want to begin by considering the metaphysics of ordinary social relations. Consider a simple scene like the following. I go into a café in Paris and sit in a chair at a table. The waiter comes and I utter a fragment of a French sentence. I say, "un demi, Munich, à pression, s'il vous plaît." The waiter brings the beer and I drink it. I leave some money on the table and leave. An innocent scene, but its metaphysical complexity is truly staggering, and its complexity would have taken Kant's breath away if he had ever bothered to think about such things. Notice that we cannot capture the features of the description I have just given in the language of physics and chemistry. There is no physical-chemical description adequate to define "restaurant," "waiter," "sentence of French," "money," or even "chair" and "table," even though all restaurants, waiters, sentences of French, money, and chairs and tables are physical phenomena. Notice, furthermore, that the scene as described has a huge, invisible ontology: the waiter did not actually own the beer he gave me, but he is employed by the restaurant, which owned it. The restaurant is required to post a list of the prices of all the boissons, and even if I never see such a list, I am required to pay only the listed price. The owner of the restaurant is licensed by the French government to operate it. As such, he is subject to a thousand rules and regulations I know nothing about. I am entitled to be there in the first place only because I am a citizen of the United States, the bearer of a valid passport, and I have entered France legally. Notice, furthermore, that though my description was intended to be as neutral as possible, the vocabulary automatically introduces normative criteria of assessment. Waiters can be competent or incompetent, honest or dishonest, rude or polite. Beer can be sour, flat, tasty, too warm, or simply delicious. Restaurants can be elegant, ugly, refined, vulgar, or out of fashion, and so on with the chairs and tables, the money, and the French phrases. If, after leaving the restaurant, I then go to listen to a lecture or attend a party, the size of the metaphysical burden I am carrying only increases; and one sometimes wonders how anyone can bear it."

I think that thoroughly demonstrates that social reality is a very much constructed affair. Why, one might ask, does this apply to human nature? Maybe it is human nature that social reality is constructed, and if that is your definition then I say it is probably one that can exist in all fairness. People don't tend to hold such a limited view of human nature though - they attach all kinds of cultural and political baggage to the concept, and attempts to universalise the idea that there is one consistent "desired order of being" by mostly Western scholars have been... unsatisfactory. Naturally, one runs into the same problem of words and meaning as with anything else if one tries to claim something about consistent and universal "human nature."

If one argues for a "love of basic values like freedom and democracy" as a definition for human nature, firstly, one is probably American :P But further consideration must be applied to this or any other claim of values. What does democracy mean to a person? The Chinese conception is radically different to that of the American one. Russia's is different still. Freedom is a similarly sticky concept, just try to get a libertarian and an authoritarian socialist to agree on it and you'll see my point here. Even basic statements like "humans are inherently driven towards conflict" don't function in a society structured so conflict is neither necessary, nor enjoyable, nor even viewed as possible. In a "state of nature" thought experiment, sure, humans are driven towards conflict, but only because of the natural and social (or rather, lack of social) conditions imposed upon them.

This isn't to say that there's no probable right answer politically, I just believe it needs to be couched in creating an environment where human nature can be at its best, not creating an environment that "best reflects" a fluid human nature. Anyone who's talked to me on the topic of technocracy knows I definitely advocate something. I've probably rambled on for longer than anyone wants to read though, and while I could easily say more on this I doubt people are inclined to listen.

So in short, "yes".

Khalite, Frodo baggins, Luna State, Lukatonia, and 1 otherA flying koala

Ghostfox wrote:But but but
What about the fact that our behavior is an attribute imbued on us by the culture and society that we are a part of, and as such values, morals, political ideas, and the way we feel as individual people are a symbol of that society?

I don't explain it as well as I know others could, but structuralism is a ting.

More complex behaviors can change due to the culture around us, but there are simple behaviors that are unchanged in almost every way. Simple emotions like fear, lust, etc. are minimally changed because they are quite important to survival. They exist to push the human existence forward. There can be different behaviors that exist via societal input or through cultural changes, but I don't see those as human nature. When I personally think "human nature", I think of survival instincts and the things that humans have done to survive into the more modern eras. Others may see differently. All a matter of opinion :)

Khalite, Luna State, and A flying koala

Arnavaz wrote:Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

There is no such thing as "human nature". It's a propaganda term used by persons and institutions to get what they want, nothing more, nothing less.

Luna State, Imperium of Josh, Valerievna, and A flying koala

Frodo baggins wrote:There is no such thing as "human nature". It's a propaganda term used by persons and institutions to get what they want, nothing more, nothing less.

Certainly a valid way of seeing it - people who try to argue from a perspective of "my political system is right because it best reflects human nature" are being extremely disingenuous. Their system will, in being a structure of society, mould social reality, including perceptions about what is "natural" for humans to like and think.

Frodo baggins, Luna State, Alrengard, Valerievna, and 1 otherA flying koala

Arnavaz wrote:Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

I believe that like all animals we have our own instinctive drives. There are behaviors already in us that manifest beneath the surface and rise under certain circumstances, yet it is also true that our environment and culture have a lot to do with developing new learned behaviors.

Animals have predictable modes of behavior, yet some animals can also have new behaviors trained into them.

Apply this to the human animal. Our brain meat is orders of magnitude more conscientious and intelligent than that of, say, a dog. A dog learns how to behave by the sort of environment it grows up in. A human baby learns how to behave by the sort of environment it grows up in.

I'd have to say human beings, due to the great flexibility and capacity of our brain meat when it comes to learning and thinking, are more shaped by environment and culture, but nonetheless share many behavioral similarities with other human beings, in the way that lesser animals of the same species have their own peculiar ways of relating to one another.

We are a more advanced type of animal, because we are not solely dependent on nature to survive, in the sense of being constantly at its mercy. One of the greatest factors of human survival and dominance is the fact that we are environmental changers. We take what we find in nature and transform it. We are the alchemists. We hold in our hands the philosopher's stone.

Frodo baggins, Luna State, Imperium of Josh, Alrengard, and 1 otherA flying koala

Arnavaz wrote:Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

That reminds me of a culture I designed for a novel I am still working on, where the initial concept was just 'a culture which is so strict and harsh in military training for all its people that it has eliminated panic entirely'
Just imagine a terrible disaster happening, and not one of them screams or runs, they all just start moving in the optimal response in eerie silence.

Oh, answering the question? I'd say human nature is selfish greed, modern culture encourages that, and those who try to defy it are at a disadvantage against those who don't. I'm a bit of a pessimist.

Luna State, Arnavaz, United republics of ninevah, and A flying koala

Khalite is ranked 290th in the world and 7th in Osiris for Largest Mining Sector, scoring 38,072.9 on the Blue Sky Asbestos Index.

Strike the earth and dig deep, comrades of the revolution! Dig for Motherland! :u

Tethys 13, Luna State, Arnavaz, and A flying koala

Arnavaz wrote:Good morning, lovies! I'm back with the question of the day! Happy Monday <3

TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY

Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?

I like poptarts.

Khalite, Luna State, Ghostfox, Arnavaz, and 1 otherA flying koala

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