North Korea

The undominated wrote:

The "cold" war was the opening salvo of this new system of capitalist (self-)competition and the first stages of advanced capitalism turning into open corporatist fascism.

Fascist corporatism is different from capitalist corporatism; in capitalism, corporations are basically charter companies, union of investors giving money to entrepreneurs to make profit, but in fascism, corporatism is political union of industries (car makers, shoe makers, tailors, farmers, labourers), then given seats in the parliament, thus avoiding party-politics and elections (which they deem totally disconnected from reality).

Though i agree capitalist corporatism is bad, even ruining capitalism itself (can't trace the money, hedge funds are literally secret societies).

Simply nightmarish, the US is using court-ordered rehab for slave labor. The part about the organization taking injured laborers' workers' comp payouts is just despicable.

They thought they were going to rehab. They ended up in chicken plants

https://www.revealnews.org/article/they-thought-they-were-going-to-rehab-they-ended-up-in-chicken-plants/

Che Triumphant wrote:

The scientific method as far as we need to test and figure out what the best methods are for accomplishing our goals, if we both have the goal of creating a socialist world then we should look at the past and at the present to figure out what the best method is for accomplishing that goal, and we should continue to experiment and observe the world to see if we can figure out a method that is more effective. And we should have socialism as our goal because that is the method that has been scientifically proven to be best for reaching goals like the elimination of poverty, illiteracy, starvation, things that cause human suffering, and I believe that the "goal" should be to make the world as happy a place as it can be, with the many sub-goals that form out of that

Yeah, I would agree that we need to look less at metaphysical concepts like countries, societies, freedom, etc and look more at accomplishing goals that we can objectively measure, things like life expectancy and calorie consumption. We may not know what a "society" is but we definitely now what humanity is, and we know what the other animals are, well not really all of them but we know what an animal is

Personally, I don't really buy into the whole "concrete set of rules" definition of how people should be ethical, I just think people should try and bring as much happiness as they can into the world.

those questions were rhetorical really. They're the kind of questions to be aware of when trying to engage with anarchists.

when I said your conclusions are flawed it's because I think the logics you are using are flawed. It is too narrow and makes assumptions.
The main problems you face when debating anarchists are foundational ones. There is the old argument about communism without liberty being tyranny and liberty without communism being the same for instance. As Marxist-Feminists mentioned, anarchists have a different foundational understanding of the struggle and base their analysis and strategies on different ethical responses. Kind of like playing different games on the same board.
The argument over the need or not to establish material liberty on which personal liberty is based is even older than the people's stick one, so there is plenty of stuff out there written over the years to justify one opinion or the other.
A good thing to consider when debating anarchists is, - while communists would use society (in this case, the state and its apparatus) to work in favour of it's most important class, anarchists want to reorganise the very social relationships which give rise to class cultures using the individuals who will constitute this reorganised society, to an anarchist everything after that is debatable and fluid, but they believe to build a new society you must start on new foundations or counter-revolution in one form or another is inevitable. Anarchists don't have the same "faith in humanity" as communists, we don't think you can rely on a select group of individuals to defend the revolution over generations. We think this responsibility must fall on the individual and as such a society as a whole will defend the revolution, because an individual is nothing without society and vise versa.

For any more discussion of anarchism I'll post on the FAC rmb, but I'll quote any posts from the NK rmb so people get pinged.

Someone mentioned slums(favela) in Brazil, few days ago, i want to reply to that:

You can't blame the government, or capitalism for that, it is simpy the people's problem (migration), and i as a capitalist, believe in market forces to solve the problem.

Why do you think i moved to the countryside in the first place? Because living in the metropolis became expensive. I simply sold my flat to buy 4 times cheaper farm - which have huge space and room for improvement, unlike city housing.

Why costs skyrocket? Because millions arrive each year, creating demand (before supply can meet the quota).

Why Brazilians move to the cities?: to find a job at factories, thus clogging the city, making trouble for urban planners, who can't keep up with construction companies with such huge demand in housing. Brazilians are abandoning their rural jobs, and are unwilling to create new jobs, but using the path of least resistance. Now this migration cause 1) less available employment, 2) growing crime, 3) strain on education/healthcare infrastructure.

In fact, rural jobs are more available & plentyfull: i'm currently producing meat, eggs, fruits, vegetables and breed dogs, while i plan to expand to: dairy, honey, wool, logging.

Therefore, i don't trust the government/welfare handouts to help solve the problem. That will simple encourage more people to come, and when money stops flowing their direction, cities will collapse like Detroit. It should be the other way around this time, government should tell them to go back to villages, or settle in other smaller cities, thus jobs and housing will be evenly spreadout, while crime and disease will reduce significantly.

Just don't do it Chinese style.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_to_the_Countryside_Movement

Communism Is Bad wrote:

Hey.

I think your might be lost. Let me help you on you way.